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Clan League Division C: Official Thread: 11/6/2015 22:58:50


almosttricky 
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So the rules according to Chris is that games can be replayed so long as both parties agree to do it AND the boot occured during the picking stage. If if occured after this, it can't be redone. In Mooo's case the boot was during the picking, so it can be redone if the Wolf player agrees.
Clan League Division C: Official Thread: 11/6/2015 23:55:32


Zephyrum
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Siezure doesn't often check forums, so I sent this thread to him on skype for him to decide for himself.
Clan League Division C: Official Thread: 11/7/2015 00:15:22


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XD I do in fact check forums, I just don't say anything.


In regards to the Clan League game, I'm up for a rematch as it would be the more honourable thing to do, even though I'm almost guaranteed to lose lol.

Edited 11/7/2015 00:15:46
Clan League Division C: Official Thread: 11/7/2015 03:11:56


almosttricky 
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Here is the link to the redo game https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=9798119
Clan League Division C: Official Thread: 11/7/2015 03:23:37


farragut 
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I don't understand the rationale for this decision. Why is a boot during picks unimportant? Can you or Chris please explain?
Clan League Division C: Official Thread: 11/7/2015 04:17:44


Phoenix
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well my current opinion is that they should not redo, and you are right Farragut, that it effects more than just the 2 players involved.

however if you had to ask any other player in the entire league, I bet they would accept a redo for that one.
So that argument although valid, would not work to stop the redo.

The real argument that is valid indeed, is about redo of other people who get booted, and if others don't have the same privilege, why should Moo?

I think that is a valid point enough to convince me that you are right on this.
Theoretically moo should not redo.


Then there is another problem of it being in the hands of the administration.
If Chris(the host) decides to make it a rule(maybe already done?) that a redo's are handled only after a through consideration of the circumstances by the administration, then it does not matter if you are right in your claim because the administration decides about what was fair or not.

Well I do not like this much but if it is part of the rules we agreed up joining the tournament then chris would be in the right.

The question is can the administration make such a rule while the tournament has already started?

Here is where it gets hazy a little bit and since I do not want to make an argument out of ignorance, I would abstain for having an opinion on the matter until I know more.

Though theoretically your argument is valid without the administration argument, in my opinion.

Edited 11/7/2015 04:25:58
Clan League Division C: Official Thread: 11/7/2015 15:48:14


almosttricky 
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Boot during picks is important because the game is still equal. If you get booted in the middle of the game, people can argue that they were ahead. So, if picks have already been posted by the booted player, they don't get a 2nd chance.
Clan League Division C: Official Thread: 11/7/2015 20:12:54


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"Why is a boot during picks unimportant? Can you or Chris please explain?"

yea apart that there is no advantage, the game did not start yet, so the boot was not because of any bad reason but most likely it is because of unforeseen circumstances.

Since unforeseen circumstances happen to everyone, it gets more understanding.
(eg connection problems, work, emergencies, hospitalized, etc...)
Clan League Division C: Official Thread: 11/9/2015 01:18:30


almosttricky 
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1.) VIW 111 points, 234 max
2.) Stahlgewittern 71 points, 197 max
3.) SNinja 55 points, 215 max
4.) LEA 36 points, 188 max
4.) 101st 45 points, 169 max
6.) FBG 36 points, 163 max
7.) Lost Wolves 18 points, 142 max
Alright, so VIW is still in a safe 1st place. Stalgewittern has more points, but SNinja has more max points, so that is very close. LEA and 101st are essentially tied for 4th. FBG has widened its gap over the Wolves.
Clan League Division C: Official Thread: 11/10/2015 22:15:39


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Clan League Division C: Official Thread: 11/10/2015 22:49:00


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They are in Division C, because they were in Season 6. Any bottom-division clans from Season 6, were put up to Division C. D1 and D2 are made up entirely out of new clans, despite the fact that Wolves could probably only beat Darklords, out of the 14 clans in D.
Clan League Division C: Official Thread: 11/11/2015 00:13:19


almosttricky 
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1.) VIW 118 points, 234 max
2.) SNinja 82 points, 212 max
3.) Stahlgewittern 75 points, 185 max
4.) LEA 45 points, 181 max
5.) 101st 58 points, 162 max
6.) FBG 39 points, 149 max
7.) Lost Wolves 18 points, 119 max
My prediction is holding up exactly so far!

Edited 11/11/2015 20:32:28
Clan League Division C: Official Thread: 11/13/2015 03:29:34


almosttricky 
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1.) VIW 126 points, 234 max
2.) SNinja 89 points, 212 max
3.) Stahlgewittern 78 points, 185 max
4.) LEA 45 points, 174 max
4.) 101st 61 points, 162 max
6.) FBG 39 points, 142 max
7.) Lost Wolves 21 points, 112 max
Alright, so VIW is still a very solid 1st place (they have still only lost 2 games)! SNinja has pulled slightly ahead of Stahlgewittern, but things are very close. LEA and 101st are also very close, I'm calling it a tie for now. FBG and Lost Wolves are down in the relegation zone. Also, Lost Wolves' max points has fallen behind VIW's actual points, so we know that VIW won't be last and Wolves won't be first (not that we didn't know that already).
Clan League Division C: Official Thread: 11/13/2015 04:10:18


Deadman 
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Go ninja!!
Clan League Division C: Official Thread: 11/15/2015 03:39:16


almosttricky 
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1.) VIW 126 points, 234 max
2.) SNinja 92 points, 209 max
3.) Stahlgewittern 78 points, 180 max
4.) LEA 57 points, 171 max
4.) 101st 65 points, 159 max
6.) FBG 42 points, 135 max
7.) Lost Wolves 21 points, 108 max
Small update, not much different from the last one.

Tournament winners so far (1v1):
Strat ME 0% - bigarmz from SNinja or Metatron VIW, based on who wins the game they're playing.

Battle islands goes to MoOoOoO from VIW who will have a 6-0 or 5-1 record.

Greece - Goes to bigarmz from SNinja if he can win over Stalgewittern. If he loses and Carlos Danger wins from VIW wins his last game, it could still go VIW.

Battle island - Jaymer from SNinja is 3-0, while General Gror from VIW is 4-0.

1v1 Strat ME %0 SR - Turkish from VIW with a 5-1 record

Turkey - Awesomeguy with 6-0 record

Edited 11/15/2015 03:39:51
Clan League Division C: Official Thread: 11/15/2015 04:07:00


Hog Wild
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congratulations guys :D
Clan League Division C: Official Thread: 11/17/2015 04:25:06


almosttricky 
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1.) VIW 131 points, 234 max
2.) SNinja 95 points, 204 max
3.) Stahlgewittern 81 points, 177 max
4.) LEA 61 points, 171 max
4.) 101st 70 points, 156 max
6.) FBG 42 points, 130 max
7.) Lost Wolves 21 points, 104 max
Alright, no shifting of rankings here. VIW's point have now surpassed the max points of FBG and Lost Wolves, so they are guaranteed to not be relegated. bigarmz from SNinja won the Greece tournament (the first tournament not to be won by VIW). The 1v1 tournaments are mostly wrapped up now with only a few games to finish. Most of the points left will be decided in team games.
Clan League Division C: Official Thread: 11/17/2015 10:58:11


KKND
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VIW acting as cheaters xD
sninja doing good
Stahl got to the marsh :)

thanks for updates almosttricky
Clan League Division C: Official Thread: 11/18/2015 20:36:22


MoOoOoOoO
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yup i don't comment a lot but i read it all so don't think ur work is for nothing :)
Clan League Division C: Official Thread: 11/18/2015 23:08:54


Hog Wild
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^ same here :)
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