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Sign the petition: Ban Donald Trump from the UK!: 12/9/2015 16:53:46


SirSalty
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Yes you was right, signed the petition.
Sign the petition: Ban Donald Trump from the UK!: 12/9/2015 17:11:43


[AOE] JaiBharat909
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LMAO SO HARD!! The british are so spineless. This petition is completely pointless. Britain wouldn't give Narendra Modi a visa because of the Gujarat Riot Controversy in 2002, but as soon as he becomes PM you guys let him come to the UK no problem. If Trump becomes President you will roll out the red carpet for his entry and Cameron will shake his hand and I'll be laughing.


That being said I hope Trump doesn't becomes President.
Sign the petition: Ban Donald Trump from the UK!: 12/9/2015 17:31:54


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Wow, people are seriously butthurt enough about Trump's statements to ban him? We're reaching new lows all the time.

I'm not even a Trump supporter, but I still think this is ridiculous. Banning "hate speech" is like opening a Pandora's box, because the definition of "hateful" and "offensive" is entirely subjective. If unchecked more and more speech will be banned/censored until there's little left to say.

Even more shocking is how European countries usually preach tolerance but have shown themselves to be quite intolerant of people they don't agree with. (This isn't the first time there's been a "Ban so-so because we don't like his politics!" petition coming from the U.K)

I'm convinced that Trump is a crazy extremist, yet he still holds just one appeal: Slapping down political correctness.

Am I the only one who thinks this is too similar to nazi Germany in the 1920s and early 30s.
Scary times ahead for America


Godwin's Law.

Seriously, everyone made Hitler comparisons to Obama as well. The whole "Charismatic leader rises to power amidst economic turmoil/environment of fear" is such a shallow criteria that nearly every president can be compared to Hitler.

It's funny to see liberals make the same doomsday predictions about Trump that conservatives made about Obama.

Edited 12/9/2015 17:35:39
Sign the petition: Ban Donald Trump from the UK!: 12/9/2015 17:51:27


Hog Wild
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the difference is that Trump regularly spouts hatespeech. and is fearmongering. and holds views that might have possibly been considered normal, hundreds of years ago. equally frightening, is that there is a large segment of America that has become xenophobic, panicky, irrational, and only interested in having scapegoats. They no longer care for the truth.

To compare Trump To Obama is just silly.
Sign the petition: Ban Donald Trump from the UK!: 12/9/2015 17:59:45


Eklipse
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the difference is that Trump regularly spouts hatespeech. and is fearmongering.

I'm aware of that, but this is a matter of principle. "Hate speech" is subjective and once we start censoring it we begin walking down a very bad path.

To compare Trump To Obama is just silly.

No, it's not. The reaction to both of them has been pretty similar. It's the same "Oh no someone from the other party is going to win it's the end of the world!" sentiment which happens in every election. It's all the same blind, demonizing, partisan BS that is ruining the U.S

Donald Trump is not going to destroy the U.S. The utter refusal of liberals and conservatives to stop censoring and demonizing each other is going to destroy the U.S.
Sign the petition: Ban Donald Trump from the UK!: 12/9/2015 18:00:59


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Yes! That bastard said he wanted to turn Scotland into the world's largest golf course! What a dickhead.
Sign the petition: Ban Donald Trump from the UK!: 12/9/2015 18:04:57


[AOE] JaiBharat909
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Maybe. But that's not criteria to ban him. Its not like he killed someone, committed human rights abuses, orchestrated a ponzi scheme, or did anything even borderline criminal. You just want to ban him because 1) you don't agree with his politics and 2) you want to claim the moral high ground in the fight against terrorism and the migrant crisis. The people who signed the petition are no different from university SJWs who want to ban free speech and make college administrators slaves to political correctness.
Sign the petition: Ban Donald Trump from the UK!: 12/9/2015 18:06:27


Belgian Gentleman
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Freedom of speech. Why won't you allow it?
Sign the petition: Ban Donald Trump from the UK!: 12/9/2015 18:07:11


The Man Who'd Buy Spain
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Trump isn't a radical, but he is a total idiot, and a terrible speaker.

Why stop at all muslims? Yeah, many terrorists the US is dealing with follows some extreme Islam, but there are others who cause trouble; plus, lying about one's religion is very easy. If we are to stop terrorists from entering, we should close all borders to all people until we can figure out who we already have. That's the only effective way to do what Trump wants.

BTW don't sign the petition. You'd be banning somebody for his belief/views, which is exactly what said person wants to do.
Sign the petition: Ban Donald Trump from the UK!: 12/9/2015 18:10:46


Luna {TJC}
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BTW don't sign the petition. You'd be banning somebody for his belief/views, which is exactly what said person wants to do.


Exactly 10/10
Sign the petition: Ban Donald Trump from the UK!: 12/9/2015 18:18:37


Eklipse
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You'd be banning somebody for his belief/views, which is exactly what said person wants to do.

It's ironic, Trump wants to ban people for their belief/views. The people who claim to oppose him are now doing the same exact thing.

I guess that quote about "He who fights monsters" is true indeed.

Its not like he killed someone, committed human rights abuses, orchestrated a ponzi scheme, or did anything even borderline criminal. You just want to ban him because 1) you don't agree with his politics and 2) you want to claim the moral high ground in the fight against terrorism and the migrant crisis. The people who signed the petition are no different from university SJWs who want to ban free speech and make college administrators slaves to political correctness.

Couldn't have said it better.
Sign the petition: Ban Donald Trump from the UK!: 12/9/2015 20:51:57


[ESP] Pablo García
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Oh damn +300,000 signed... I am proud of you, UK.
Sign the petition: Ban Donald Trump from the UK!: 12/9/2015 21:18:46


[AOE] JaiBharat909
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I am proud of you, UK

Said no Indian.

Lol but why are you happy about the petition. Should I start a petition to ban Angela Merkel from entering the US because I don't like her public position on the refugee crisis.

No of course not. That would be completely ludicrous, would harm relations with Germany, and would be equitable to censoring freedom of speech. A whole country (if the petition was adopted) would be punishing someone for saying their opinion essentially. That's not very European if you ask me. That being said a public petition to ban Trump from the UK is literally the UK public giving the finger to (at least) 10% of the American voting public (Republican support for Trump is 30% and the number of Republicans is about 1/3 of the US voting population).
Sign the petition: Ban Donald Trump from the UK!: 12/9/2015 21:29:27


Angry Koala
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Political correctness sure, saying we disagree about someone openly racist and xenophobic wanting in total demagogy to ban a whole population according to their religion oh yeah sure this is part of PC Nazi speech as you name it, this is totally right... Come on this is common sense, political correctness and free speech have nothing to do with it.

Eklipse the thing is Trump is even worse in his speech compared to most of European Far Right leaders, this is clearly scary, and if you think that with Trump elected America wont be impacted at all, then you are very naive, I should suggest you to see what happened with George W Bush who was a "moderate" one compared to Trump, America greatly suffered worlwide with a reputation heavily tarnished, something you may not be aware Eklipse since you are not leaving outside of the US. Think about it before saying stupid things, of course electing someone has an impact in foreign and internal policies.
Sign the petition: Ban Donald Trump from the UK!: 12/9/2015 21:33:25


Angry Koala
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About this petition, I believe it was just to make people reacting about how stupid Trump's xenophobic statements were, nothing serious, and it worked you see, you are currently discussing about it. Of course Trumb wont be banned from the UK, this is just a quite smart action made by the British, and I highly encourage it.
Sign the petition: Ban Donald Trump from the UK!: 12/9/2015 22:42:33

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Sign the petition: Ban Donald Trump from the UK!: 12/10/2015 00:28:38


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Trunp plainly went to far with his comments, and it's a totally unworkable proposal, but the sentiment just as with most of the things he says resonates with a good proportion of the American people.

Now if he had said, that anyone who had traveled to Iran, Syria or Pakistan in the past 10 years without provable good reason should be banned entry, would that have been better?

How about if we went to war with Iran. Would a ban on Iranians entering the country during the war be accepted?
If so, and we are currently at war with Islamic extremists... we should plainly ban any Islamic extremist from coming in. So how do you all suggest we decide which are extremists? So as a precaution.... well it's really not as bad a suggestion imo as the first knee jerk reaction to it is
Sign the petition: Ban Donald Trump from the UK!: 12/10/2015 00:30:31


Жұқтыру
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Tsh, the rightists are getting offended by everything on this thread.
Sign the petition: Ban Donald Trump from the UK!: 12/10/2015 02:12:11


Darth Darth Binks
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Would a ban on Iranians entering the country during the war be accepted?


It already happened. Jimmy Carter, the Iranian Hostage Crisis.
Sign the petition: Ban Donald Trump from the UK!: 12/10/2015 02:12:43


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And that wasn't even during a war.
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