France is not relevant either, but Spain is even more irrelevant. It is a country that will disappear in the near future. Thanks Francisco Franco for this.

Spain and France are both relevant, deal with it.

@Salty No, that'd be the Mongol empire.

Cata as you are Austrian, you see what happened to the Austrian Empire after ww1? This will also happen to Spain soon.

Hah, no.

Invented the molotov, flick knife and stapler iirc

Cata I don't think you realise how strong the Catalan secessionist movement is. Putting beside my joke-blind-faith-type-thing, Catalonia would easily win a referendum. Even if Scotland had only Scots vote in the referendum, it'd be barely over 50%. Catalonia could clear 70%+.

Mongols wasn't really an empire though....more of arghhhhh let take everything you own; it was like pirates that had organisation.

^ And don't forget the Basques, the Basques are even more independentists!

Some provinces like Gipuzkoa and big cities such as San Sebastian/Donosti are led by Bildu a pro independence party. The rest are with PNV: Basque Nationalist Party, not independentist but nationalist, conventional Spanish parties such as PSOE or PP have almost no votes in Euskadi.

I support Basque independence over Scottish and Catalonian because Athletic Bilbao means they would have an OP football team.

Aaaargh, Scots are great at fitba too, mate!

not really, but... :)

Even Navarre, the most conservative and pro Spanish Region (they never wanted as for now to join the Basque Community of Euskadi) has finally fallen to the Basque parties during the 2015 elections, the region and the capital (Pamplona) are now led by the Abertzales (Basquist politicians).

Yeah we have 3 great football teams: Athletic Bilbao (Bilbao), Osasuna (Pamplona) and Real Sociedad (San Sebastian).

@ General PE
Urrmmm Barcelona are situated in Catalonia.

Yes, but Barcelona imports players - Messi, Neymar, Suarez, Rakitic, Bravo, etc. Bilbao only recruits Basques, meaning they could all play for the Basque national team.

yes general, and we do have a national team, Euskal Selekzioa: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basque_Country_national_football_team

The Basque team used to have Xabi Alonso, Bixente Lizarazu and even Didier Deschamps, all of them are World Champions sadly with the Colonial Powers of France and Spain :(

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Anyway, I'm surprised an American guy is interested in European football.

Lessons from Spain?

1) Taught the world how to remove kebab, then...
2) ...Taught the world how to remove inti.
3) And then taught the world how to screw over the Portuguese.

Taught Brazil how to play Soccer.