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Christians: Should they be legal?: 2/18/2016 11:34:22


[WOLF] Colonel H Cardwell
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There is convincing evidence to prove that homos and other mentally ill people should be legalised in Christianity. Therefore, instead of trying to prove that Jesus would have done a drive-by at every homo he could, had America, guns, Ford, and open homos been around during his time, I've decided to approach the argument from a new perspective:

BAN CHRISTIANITY.

Christians cause all the wars, they cause all the problems, and a solution could be to eliminate them.

Your opinions are valued.
Christians: Should they be legal?: 2/18/2016 11:39:20


Thomas 633
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Please leave and return to the room with soft walls.
Christians: Should they be legal?: 2/18/2016 11:48:38


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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Yes. Religious freedom is absolute as long as no violence is commited.

Governments and other secular authorities must tolerate any religion that has not been proven to be incorrect.They should certainly shut up about any fundamentalist sect of any religion as long as there is no violence.

Edited 2/18/2016 11:50:38
Christians: Should they be legal?: 2/18/2016 11:49:44


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lol but all are incorrect. ^^
Christians: Should they be legal?: 2/18/2016 11:52:03


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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Even potential non-human religions? How are you that certain...may I ask?

No matter what religious position you want to prove, you first need to construct what constitutes falsification of a religious position.

Edited 2/18/2016 11:53:37
Christians: Should they be legal?: 2/18/2016 11:55:58


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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1.In math, people start from axioms and deduce statements called theorems assuming the truth of these axioms. Anything deduced from axioms are correct in that axiomatic system while anything contradicts them are falsified. We have naive set theory, ZFC and many other systems of axioms from which interesting mathematics spring up. Well naive set theory has its problems such as Russell's paradox so at least mainstream math uses ZFC instead now.
2.In science people start from observations of reality and theory should model real life. Any scientific theory is not proven correct. Instead, a scientific theory can only be proven incorrect if it fails to explain observations. A theory that explains a lot of observations are (tentatively) considered correct unless or until new observations refine the theory by replacing it with another one that explains observations better.
3.In technology things need to work. For example an error-correcting code has to satisfy certain conditions to be preferred by people, such as low bit error rate (BER) under certain reasonable SNR, not-too-high complexity, etc. Bad code that does not manage to lower the BER is of course rejected. In fact in research in this field people care about your results a lot...certainly more than your math formulas.

Now let's move on to religion. I will put atheism into the set of religions since for religion-verification process it is easier to consider it a religion so that we will all agree that "there exists one and only one correct religion" as opposed to "there exists one and only one correct religion or there exists no correct religions and in the latter case we call atheism true" which is way longer. Just like the empty set is considered a set, we need to consider atheism the trivial/empty/zero religion.

Now the next thing is...how to test whether a religion is correct or not? I'm not sure about this one.

There should be more success in another test, namely compatibility test. This is not to test religions but to test religious entities such as sects assuming their religion is correct. For example if someone of any religion claims that he/she knew from some supernatural source that certain testable huge change to the societies would happen before 1990 but now we know it has not happened we probably can get rid of that individual as someone of supernatural connections. It may also be interesting to test whether popular sects of any religion actually is compatible with the original religion. That might also be possible. Primary tests of whether a religion is correct...again please think about some ideas..I do not have a lot.

Edited 2/18/2016 12:19:56
Christians: Should they be legal?: 2/18/2016 12:00:34


DomCobb
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Get out Colonel.
Christians: Should they be legal?: 2/18/2016 12:07:43


The Lord
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The largest amount of porn searches per capita comes from Islamic nations -> those perverts -> ban Islam

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/pictures/view/84422230/
Christians: Should they be legal?: 2/18/2016 12:12:27


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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#8 But that's not a legitimate reason to ban Islam.. When is the porn search per capita a legitimate reason to ban a religion?

Edited 2/18/2016 12:25:47
Christians: Should they be legal?: 2/18/2016 13:10:15


The Lord
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meow?
Christians: Should they be legal?: 2/18/2016 13:12:08


Lolicon love 
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I agree Christianity is a plague upon the world we must turn back to the true celtic pagan ways.
Christians: Should they be legal?: 2/18/2016 13:14:22


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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#11 Original Christianity is a sect of Judaism. Not a plague though. Despite not being ethnic Jewish I want to say...Jewishness is beautiful.

Edited 2/18/2016 13:15:28
Christians: Should they be legal?: 2/18/2016 13:16:52


Lolicon love 
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the words of a heathen you will never pass over into the otherworld.
Christians: Should they be legal?: 2/18/2016 13:18:56


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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#13 Are you a cat? Meow..

As for the topic of testing whether a religion is true..really not sure how this test can be done..I expect serious responses..

Edited 2/18/2016 13:20:05
Christians: Should they be legal?: 2/18/2016 13:23:40


Lolicon love 
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you take the followers of the true faith put them on a battlefield fight the infidels and after the infidels have all died the true faith can be seen.
Christians: Should they be legal?: 2/18/2016 13:28:35


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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#15 I do not want to see lives lost for that..nor do I believe it is necessarily effective in determining which religion (including atheism) is correct.

Edited 2/18/2016 13:29:14
Christians: Should they be legal?: 2/18/2016 15:54:35


Empire of Kilos
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Okay, *Grabs a stamp and stamps the world Banned on my forehead*
Christians: Should they be legal?: 2/18/2016 18:47:43


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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#17 I agree with you..:-)
Christians: Should they be legal?: 2/18/2016 19:05:05


[EIC] Cade
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"Christians cause all the wars, they cause all the problems"

lol, This has been the final nail in the casket. You are officially a retarded motherfucker who doesn't have a clue what he is talking about. Please GTFO.
Christians: Should they be legal?: 2/18/2016 19:24:28


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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#19 We do not need to use ad hominem or curse words. That is simply an incorrect statement. You can not blame any religion or...almost everything for all the problems on Planet Earth. Such a statement is just incorrect.
Christians: Should they be legal?: 2/18/2016 20:18:04


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Guys, you don't get it. It's a troll. Trolls usually don't say what they mean, rather the opposite.
Christians: Should they be legal?: 2/18/2016 20:27:25


King C******* V
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Guys, you don't get it. It's a thief. Thief's usually don't say what they steal.
Christians: Should they be legal?: 2/18/2016 22:06:37


Жұқтыру
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Guys, you don't get it. It's a troll. Trolls usually don't say what they mean, rather the opposite.


Yeah, I was surprised at how many folk got so flibbergiblet here, and in Jerusalem. I mean, illegalising Jerusalem? How do you illegalise a multimillion borough?
Christians: Should they be legal?: 2/18/2016 22:07:18


Major General Smedley Butler
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Nuclear missiles
Christians: Should they be legal?: 2/18/2016 22:19:30


Lolicon love 
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a few months of carpet bombing and then your problem is gone.
Christians: Should they be legal?: 2/18/2016 22:37:24


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It's in human nature to control people for their profit, so humans like to make up bullshit to control other people. We know these schemes as Religions, so if aliens don't naturally control other aliens for profit, then they probably don't have Religion.
Christians: Should they be legal?: 2/18/2016 22:55:14


Жұқтыру
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Not just faith - any dogmatism; atheism, too.
Christians: Should they be legal?: 2/18/2016 23:43:15


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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#26 I consider a religion a hypothesis..hence I include atheism into the set of religions to make discussions easier. In this sense there has to be one and only one correct religion, no matter what it is or whether we can even know the answer. Is the universe a simulation? Probably? Is it not a simulation? Not sure..

To me the key difference between a theistic universe and a non-theist (that means deist or atheist) one is whether obedience is inherently enforced. In a theist universe obedience is enforced and disobedience crushed. On the other hand, in a non-theist universe demanding obedience is called oppression and disobedience is natural and desirable. Theism = the hypothesis that there exists at least one theist deity who demands obedience from lower sentient beings that can not ever leave the rule of the theistic deity. (According to this you know why natural phenomena and Kim Jong-Un are not theist deities. Natural phenomena do not demand obedience and punish people that disobey while Kim Jong-Un's rule is not absolute since you still can leave North Korea though it is really hard)

I do not know what kind of universe we live in, though I wish I do. It is like the difference between a line and a circle..

Edited 2/18/2016 23:50:06
Christians: Should they be legal?: 2/18/2016 23:44:30


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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#27 Well people who live for ideals are more desirable than those who live for conformism and interests only..At least to me.
Christians: Should they be legal?: 2/19/2016 04:54:43


[Wolf] Relmcheatham
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http://strawpoll.me/6858241



I have been pondering Zeph's decision to let you in the clan already XD
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