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Manager League Season 1: 2/29/2016 15:31:21

kolosser
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wait... so in what club am I now? I was bid 2 on by Natalim, but what club is that?
Manager League Season 1: 2/29/2016 15:39:05


Onoma94
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^ ummm I think you are looking at sheet with example auction, instead of the real one. You aren't even in pool of players that are auctioned in the first 6 rounds.

Edited 2/29/2016 15:40:08
Manager League Season 1: 2/29/2016 16:10:29


Master Turtle 
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@kolosser
What you are looking at is the Trial Auction. Basically to give the managers of Group A an example of what is going to happen, the league organizers did a mock auction for Group B. There will be a legitimate draft for you and the rest of the players in Group B at some future point. I believe MotD had mentioned getting Group B's auction started after Grup A's ends.
Manager League Season 1: 2/29/2016 16:51:08


ChrisCMU 
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I think maybe we need to be careful about the idea of puppets here, because arguably, someone could buy 1 good player, and the rest all cheap, and get the good player to give all the bad players all of their orders. Stuff like this kinda goes against the idea of the league I think...


That may be true Fleece, but how can you stop that (if you wanted to)? You can't tell people to submit their orders without input from a better player. That strategy has some risk in that people may not want to be ordered around. Also, puppet tactics have a disadvantage of zero feedback to the good player. Good players do make mistakes, even if they are correct %90+ of the time.
Manager League Season 1: 2/29/2016 17:30:37


vicnus 
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There's a big difference between mentoring and puppeteering - let us hope that team interactions will be more the former, and less the latter. I guess it all comes down to how badly someone wants nohhams...
Manager League Season 1: 2/29/2016 17:34:15


ChrisCMU 
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yeah, if someone lets the other players puppet them, their worth will go way up, they will be cut by that manager (because they are replaceable) and they will not get picked up by another manager. However, if they learn and don't just let someone puppet them...then maybe they will have the skills to justify their cost.
Manager League Season 1: 2/29/2016 17:36:58


Kenny • apex 
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Everyone has enough nohhams to get a really good roster with every person being competent at all the templates. Why on earth would you base your strategy behind a T1 puppeting 3v3 and 2v2? There's not even a T1 in this entire lineup that's good enough to go 10-0 while puppeting. Everyone also naturally overrates puppeting. Need I mention on the 3v3 ladder right now there's not a single team with 1 person controlling the last 2? Unless Gnuffles is truly out and Szew is doing it all. What happened to everyone who tried to fully puppet on the 3v3 ladder? They struggled really hard. It's a LOT of work. Discussion beats the hell out of puppeting. You can kinda get away with it in 2v2 but again, discussion is already an advantage AND you have no reason not to go for it with a pool like this.
Manager League Season 1: 2/29/2016 17:41:02


ChrisCMU 
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Timi - Lolo says you are not good enough. HAHA

Jokes aside, it is a lot of work. I tried it and stopped. As far as enough money, I have no idea as I have not paid a lot of attention to the math on the auctions. But there are a lot of solid players still left to pick up, that is for sure.
Manager League Season 1: 2/29/2016 18:08:10


dodo comander 
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I am a Commander I will not be puppetted! I will no obey anyone!!! is that clear! :P ahahahahahahah
Manager League Season 1: 2/29/2016 18:16:13


Onoma94
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You are Comander. ;]
Manager League Season 1: 2/29/2016 18:29:08

talia_fr0st
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Expecting MotD to post in a minute, drum roll please.

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Manager League Season 1: 2/29/2016 18:33:42


Beren Erchamion 
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@"Kenny", Gnuff is definitely playing his accounts there. QB got ranked with a rating higher than 2000 with alts, but he's not still playing the ladder, though I don't know the precise reason why. Of course the ladder is different than a small RR tournament.

Also, a tier 1 player may not have the motivation to puppet a bunch of tier 9s, since that's not really very much fun, and why should they work extra hard to get their manager the glory of victory when the manager doesn't care enough about them to provide them with good teammates?

Edited 2/29/2016 18:34:06
Manager League Season 1: 2/29/2016 18:44:14


vicnus 
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So, Beren's post makes me ponder - what constitutes victory in Manager League? Is it the most victories, or who has the most Nohhams at the end???

You could argue that the only glory for the manager is to create the best return on investment... so maybe a small payroll with modest success on the field of battle wins in this scenario...
Manager League Season 1: 2/29/2016 18:47:41


Master Turtle 
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Victories and enough Nohhams to maintain your team and keep winning is what you want.

Short term priorities: Victories.
Long term priorities: Nohhaams.
Manager League Season 1: 2/29/2016 19:25:14


Deadman 
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Thoughts on the auction so far.

Legends of Light - Master Turtle
Net Player Worth 293
Salary 87.9
Balance 19.1


Players bought
1       Summer                           76               10
2       Master Ryiro                     60               10
4       Hades                            53               10
9       Gustave II                       21               10
1       timon92                          74               10
6       Glamorous❤                       9                5

The club is the first to fill all of their 55 slots. It has two Tier 1 players in Summer and timon92, who seem to be absolute bargains when you look at what some of the other Tier 1 players went for.
The club also have a solid line up with Master Ryiro(easily a Tier 1 player on his day), Hades, Gustave II and Glamorous❤. Given that Greece is one of the templates, I would expect Glamorous❤ to feature in that tournament and cause quite a few upsets.
I really like the balance of this team and well done to their manager. They have 19 Nohhams left in the bank, but I don't expect further activity.


Warsenal WC - Tjoex
Net Player Worth 166
Salary 49.8
Balance 184.2


Players bought
3       Master Atom ◆Elite◆              28                5
7       Great Expanse                     7                5
8       steve1513                         6                5
10      OxTheArtist                       3                5
4       dodo comander	                 30                10
5       wakanarai	                 15                5
2       andy903	                         77                10

The club has filled 45 of their slots. It has a deep line up with 7 players already. I think managing this club will be challenging, but also a lot of fun! Lots of combinations possible and I'm curious to see how they eventually line up.

andy903 was bought for more than what two Tier 1 players cost, so maybe a bit overpriced, but dodo comander was picked up at the base price, which is an absolute steal! I feel they need one more top player(Tier 1 or 2) to add that little bit of stardust. But given that the club has 141 Nohhams left to spend on players, I would expect them to get their target.


Spuds - hedja
Net Player Worth 259
Salary 77.7
Balance 63.3


Players bought
5      ps                       35                10
1      master of desaster       96                10
1      Timinator                126               10

The galacticos are here! Every league needs a Real Madrid, and oh boy do we have one! Overpaid sack of potatoes who will not live up to their billing? Or brutal domination to blow everyone out of the park? Time will tell, but the club has definitely made all the headlines thus far.

Timinator commands a salary of 37.8 Nohhams. If he plays two 1v1 tournaments, he can make a max of 30 Nohhams if he goes 10-0. So financially, I would expect him to feature in the team games. People have talked about puppeting, but I think that's risky business. It needs a lot of motivation, and I don't see why top players should put in so much hard work for a manager who gives them weak teammates. The club still needs to fill 25 more slots.They have only 48 Nohhams to spend and will be looking for bargain buys going forward.


RandomPlayers - KKND
Balance 223.2
Net Player Worth 136
Salary 40.8


Players bought
5          RandomPlayers              Oh                               12                5
6          RandomPlayers              Turkish                          34               10
7          RandomPlayers              Super Smoove                     34               10
3          RandomPlayers              MisterT                          21                5
5          RandomPlayers              Jefferspin                       24               10
6          RandomPlayers              Farah♦                           11                5

The club has filled 45 slots as well. It has a more solid look to their line up. They've picked up Jefferspin, Oh, MisterT and Farah♦ at ridiculous prices in my opinion. All of these players can perform on their given day, but you do feel the club needs one top player. Given that they have 171 Nohhams left, and only 1 spot left to fill, I would expect them to go big and get a Tier 1 player.

One of the most efficient managers in the auction so far. Another strategy which many have overlooked, could be to save up money in the bank for next season. I would expect a lot of good players to make themselves available for the next season. If all managers have maxed out their finances this season, you could pick up some Tier 1 players on the cheap.


Robot Unicorns - Kenny • apex
Balance 176.4
Net Player Worth 172
Salary 51.6


Players bought
2       Robot Unicorns             Nackickwind                       32               5
3       Robot Unicorns             Sephiroth                         67               10
4       Robot Unicorns             Grosshandlaren                    37               5
4       Robot Unicorns             Tony Sodano                       36               10

The club has filled 30 slots so far. It has picked up strong players who've ranked in the top 10 on ladders. Tony Sodano looks like a great buy at 36 Nohhams. The rest seem a bit overpriced, but are more than capable of justifying it. But to shell out 67 on Sephiroth!!!!!? What on earth were you smoking Kenny? Madness I tell you....

The club still has a 135 Nohhmams to spend and are more than capable of attracting a few top tier players.


WTF - Platinum
Balance 297.3
Net Player Worth 79
Salary 23.7


Players bought
8      WTF                        MarkusBM                          12               10
2      WTF                        Master Miyagi • apex              48               10
3      WTF                        Mirror                            19                5

The club has filled 25 slots so far. It looks the weakest on paper so far. MarkusBM is a bit of an unknown entity(to me), Miyagi and Mirror are solid players who've been acquired at really low prices.
Still a lot of work to be done in the market, but there's a lot of money left to work with.

Given how the auction is progressing, I would expect other clubs to be chasing the top tier players at this point. This may be a great time to pick up some solid players at base prices for this club(and there are many good players left in the pool). The only worry is that the club is drawn into a bidding war for some of the Tier 1-2 players since everyone has about 130+ Nohhams to spend for one player. I wouldn't be surprised if Timinator is not the most expensive player this season.

Edited 2/29/2016 23:14:26
Manager League Season 1: 2/29/2016 19:29:37


ChrisCMU 
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Nice breakdown, can you add the manager name at the top of each team?
Manager League Season 1: 2/29/2016 21:38:53

kolosser
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oh well, nice! My price is TBD, but I suggest you to make it a bit higher than 2 xD
And btw, who cares about puppeteering? It wouldn't make it fun and this manager league is for fun.. Why would you try to "Cheat" on something you can't win something nice and by cheating damage your reputation alot and only annoying others?
Manager League Season 1: 2/29/2016 21:48:24


ChrisCMU 
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I would think no elite player would want to puppet here. If they wanted to do that, they'd just join the ladder with alts.

Part of the fun of this league is getting to play with other decent people you might not otherwise (at least for me). Puppet ruins that.
Manager League Season 1: 2/29/2016 21:49:18


ChrisCMU 
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I am a Commander I will not be puppetted! I will no obey anyone!!! is that clear! :P ahahahahahahah


So it takes 11 people to kill you in %0 SR?

Edited 2/29/2016 21:49:32
Manager League Season 1: 2/29/2016 21:57:04


Sułtan Kosmitów
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I like it!
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