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I have returned (Plus new map): 4/27/2016 14:39:06


Belgian Gentleman
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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/84/County_of_Flanders_%28topogaphy%29.png

This is Flanders. Everything east of the Scheldt is German domain.
Everything west of the Scheldt is French domain.


Ghent (Germany): 7


While it is true that Ghent had some parts of the city located on the eastern side of the river, it cannot be denied that the biggest part of the city was located on the French domain.

If you use google maps on Ghent for example you'll clearly see that the city centre can be entirely found on the eastern side of the river and not the western side. Is it really that smart to classify Ghent as a part of Germany if the biggest part of it is not located within these boundaries?

Edited 4/27/2016 15:06:29
I have returned (Plus new map): 4/27/2016 16:57:46


zxctycxz [Ollie Bye] 
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Alright, I'll change it.
I have returned (Plus new map): 4/27/2016 18:06:04


Zephyrum
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@Zephyrum: Okay, I will up Novgorod. I'm also happy to add Venice, but what value do you think it should be? As for Ethiopia, good point, I will look into it. Finally, I'll consider Athens, but it may be bad for balancing to have it.


For Venice, at this time, it was still growing, so a 6~8 should be fine. 7 maybe?

As for Athens hurting balancement, I really don't think balancement should be the focus here. A good scenario maker will be able to make a template by nerfing and buffing bonuses; the more cities you represent, the more versatile is the map.

I for one have a really hard time making a game with Bulgaria in the 30YW map due to the lack of cities in it's region.

And the greek region is completely desolate despite being quite rich at the time.
I have returned (Plus new map): 4/27/2016 20:15:00


Жұқтыру
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Chernigov was probably the third or fourth weightiest borough in Kiev. I think it was second wealthiest borough in the country. I'd rid fully Novgorod-Seversk, it was only first aforesaid in 1044, and never was that weighty. Pereiaslav should be in, though, it was very weighty, and Rostov was also a weighty borough. Also, Polotsk and Murom were also weighty.
I have returned (Plus new map): 4/28/2016 22:26:46


Tchaikovsky Reborn
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Just a question-

are the Khazars still around by now?

Nevermind- but where are the Cumanz

Edited 4/28/2016 22:27:15
I have returned (Plus new map): 4/29/2016 15:49:23


zxctycxz [Ollie Bye] 
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I don't think I'll add the Cumans - they were really just a tribal confederation. What I mean by that is that I won't include them as a bonus, but I will still add larger territories north of the Black Sea.

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PS: I know I haven't done anything for the last couple of days, I've been a bit busy. I'll try and get some done today.

Edited 4/29/2016 15:49:35
I have returned (Plus new map): 5/5/2016 01:38:39


Tchaikovsky Reborn
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Forgive me for asking, but:

1. What about the Pomeranian/Wallachian/Highland areas of the map? They don't have much, yet there were nations.
2. Will there be any more addition to the land between Alodia, Makuria, and Ethiopia?
3. Um... I forgot
I have returned (Plus new map): 5/5/2016 03:48:29


zxctycxz [Ollie Bye] 
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1) I will include territories for those lands, but they will be large and be in large bonuses. The main point of them would just be so scenario makers could make games that work for the rest of the Middle Ages, not just he 11th Century.

2) Probably not, I can't find enough contemporary borders or city names to do so.
I have returned (Plus new map): 5/5/2016 10:15:33


҈ * TeeMee123҈ *
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I had a big discussion about pomerania with zx, and we concluded they were just tribes at that point
I have returned (Plus new map): 5/8/2016 23:38:01


Жұқтыру
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Don't expect much more names from me, I'm going to be pretty busy.

Saraushta -> Saurashta

Kutch is not an island, on most maps, even though it is seasonal, probably the water is just more of a marsh, not really stopping anyone to go through it.

KS3 -> Patan
KS2 -> Sabarkantha
KS4 -> Bharuch
KS5 -> Sanjan

Inner Gujarat (bonus) -> Gujarat

Some latitude and longitude lines are helpful, in case I do come back for more naming. Also, I recommend filling all the map except the fully undwelled lands.

A cool "twist" would be to turn this map so that South becomes North (upsidedown, as that was common in mapping of the time). Or, since this relates to the Crusades, to turn it to the East (Yerushalem is to the east of Europe), as was oft in European mapping, as well.
I have returned (Plus new map): 5/9/2016 00:13:13


AlternateHistoryGuy
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Can I test this?
I have returned (Plus new map): 5/9/2016 01:06:50


zxctycxz [Ollie Bye] 
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Sure, I'll add you to the list.

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Does anyone know of any maps of the Tibetan Kingdoms?
I have returned (Plus new map): 5/9/2016 02:30:29


Ninjafisher1980
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I love all your maps! Sign me right up for testing!
I have returned (Plus new map): 5/10/2016 02:48:30

IAmThatCanadian
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Can i test this?

BTW Gangas should be Ganges to not be confused with a different place in india

Edited 5/10/2016 03:27:23
I have returned (Plus new map): 5/10/2016 03:31:47


zxctycxz [Ollie Bye] 
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No it shouldn't, the Ganges is farther north.

This is what "Gangas" describes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Ganga_dynasty
I have returned (Plus new map): 5/10/2016 23:46:58

IAmThatCanadian
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oh ok nvm
I have returned (Plus new map): 5/10/2016 23:47:51


Tchaikovsky Reborn
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Tibet seemed to be fractured at this time.

Also, why is there a Christian Khanate?
I have returned (Plus new map): 5/11/2016 04:16:51


zxctycxz [Ollie Bye] 
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Yes, I've just noticed that. I'll change it to a kingdom.
I have returned (Plus new map): 5/11/2016 20:44:02


Tchaikovsky Reborn
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The question was more "why is it Christian" than "it's a kingdom, not a khanate"
I have returned (Plus new map): 5/12/2016 01:58:49


Master Shredtail
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If you haven't added me to the test list, I'm in.
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