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Germanic Languages: 5/18/2016 16:23:20


Belgian Gentleman
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Greenland doesn't even have a Germanic language as official language.
Germanic Languages: 5/18/2016 16:37:34


Imperator
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Greenland doesn't even have a Germanic language as official language.


While it is true that danish was recently (2009 I believe) removed as a co-official language due to a growing nationalist movement, Danish is still widely used in greenland.

And it's irrelevant anyway, since greenland is actually a part of denmark. I've already established that there will be no more of this cutting pieces out of countries business.

for splitting the netherlands in 'north-west, east and south', like it is splitst now, i would call them:
Amderdam > Holland-Friesland
Arnem > Gelre-Sticht Utrecht
Utrecht > Below the great rivers

and make current Arnem a bigger and current Utrecht smaller till the limit, to have more equal sided territory and represent the naming even more.



For the whole rest of the map, I've used city names, so I don't think I'll be naming the territories after provinces only in the netherlands. I can redo the territories and split them that way, but i'll still need city names.

u shuld doo a map of wher waco is spokan mmmmmmmmmmm dat wuld be gud


Tried to find some reference images on this, not having any luck. Do you have some links?
Germanic Languages: 5/18/2016 17:45:50


Belgian Gentleman
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*kingdom of Denmark
Germanic Languages: 5/18/2016 17:48:43


Imperator
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^ That's the official name of denmark, which if you want to be technical includes the three countries of denmark, the faroe islands, and greenland
Germanic Languages: 5/18/2016 20:15:38


Жұқтыру
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What about Gibraltar?
Germanic Languages: 5/18/2016 20:53:11


Belgian Gentleman
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What about Tuvalu?
Germanic Languages: 5/18/2016 21:02:55


AjaxAmsterdam
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Tried to find some reference images on this, not having any luck. Do you have some links?

I will gib u a list of all da places da wacos r from so u can use dat. b rite bak
Germanic Languages: 5/18/2016 21:09:02


AjaxAmsterdam
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Hear is a list of all da plases where dere is wacos (dis is from dere profiles on da klan paeg)

UK
New York
Chile
Turkey
Florida
Wisconsin
New Jersey
Canada
Illinois
Connecticut
Belgium
Virginia
Germany
Poland
Pennsylvania
France
Texas
Brazil


Mebbe now u can mayek a map of whayr da waco is spokn
Germanic Languages: 5/18/2016 22:36:38


Imperator
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What about Gibraltar?


To be honest I just kind of forgot about it, but It would be pretty awkward to add. I'd have to extend the map about 100px further down just to add a dot, and then I'd have to draw a special connection going through land from the southern part of spain up to switzerland.

What about Tuvalu?


What about it?

Hear is a list of all da plases where dere is wacos (dis is from dere profiles on da klan paeg)


Doesn't help me much. I need reference images.
Germanic Languages: 5/20/2016 15:20:16


AjaxAmsterdam
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ok den i will use MS peint to color all da places where waco is spoken
Germanic Languages: 5/20/2016 15:29:57


AjaxAmsterdam
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hear it is http://i.imgur.com/xjNDOY1.png

I hop dis helps u maek a map of waco and mebbe u will get payd 4 it :)
Germanic Languages: 5/22/2016 14:48:32


DerWyyy
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@Belgian Gentleman-

it is a EUROPEAN Germanic language map.

I asked about Namibia as German is spoken their. But is only European.
Germanic Languages: 5/22/2016 14:57:09


DerWyyy
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Also,

1.Under the capitals bonus' on the map, you are missing Reykjavik(Iceland), Copenhagen(Denmark) and Nuuk(If you are doing Greenland).

2. spelling checks-

Danish-
Greenland= Grønland
Copenhagen= København
Denmark= Danmark
Germanic Languages: 5/22/2016 15:03:45


Angry Koala
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answering your comment since i cant reply in the Map's page:

While I do appreciate criticism, I do not appreciate vague criticism. You say "Finland regions where Swedish is spoken by less than 6% of people", which is really just unhelpful. How am I supposed to have any idea what regions you're talking about?



An hypocrite posture from you Imperator, not really surprising tbh.

Vague criticism when I sent you tons of links with sites providing information with precise stats explaining where does this 6% came from. The regions you added in Finland are not Germanic lands, there are only some cities which indeed have a Swedish majority, but that's all, the only thing you did here is changing the name you wrote before (Aboland to Jakobstad), which is even more irrelevant since it only mentions one city, whereas the territory you added here is an entire region not only "one city", you should have consequently changed that territory and only showed cities where Germanic languages are majority (see this map to see what really Jakobstad is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jakobstad#/media/File:Pietarsaari.sijainti.suomi.2008.svg )... Frankly your bad faith is obvious here.
If you see it as vague, it is because you openly ignored my comments (see for example everything that was said about Alsace, and the meticulous study of the University of Laval that showed that in 2014 a majority of Alsatians, 53%, still spoke Alsatian a Germanic tongue). So to answer you, you indeed refuse any criticisms, even if they are purposely made to help you here, blame yourself.

Edited 5/22/2016 15:14:27
Germanic Languages: 5/22/2016 15:09:59


Angry Koala
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And btw (I have still some hope about you), if you are going to finally accept constructive criticisms take also in count this:

Greenland should not be added, since the most spoken language in that region isn't a Germanic language but Kalaallisut (Greenlandic), spoken by about 50,000 people out of 58,000 inhabitants in Greenland. And since you won't believe me because well anything I say has to be "ignored", here is a quote "A majority of the population speak Kalaallisut (West Greenlandic), most of them bilingually. It is spoken by about 50,000 people, making it the most populous of the Eskimo–Aleut language family, spoken by more people than all the other languages of the family combined." (source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenland#Languages). Not to mention Greenlandic isn't the unique language spoken that isn't Germanic, you have many other minority Eskimo languages and dialects.
Germanic Languages: 5/22/2016 17:39:04


Жұқтыру
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Haha, Koala still salty.

There are people (Juq is one I know, and now you) who rate maps on petty things like this, but to be honest the vast majority of people just rate maps on how well they play; So please don't try to threaten me with a bad rating if I don't make changes you want me to.

Not a threat at all Imperator, I usually rate maps where I took part in the discussion or maps I tested before they were published that's all, and btw I am free to rate it the way I want fortunately, do not take it bad.

1: The lands put in Finland are mostly Swedish-speaking, based on this map (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/92/Languages_of_Finnish_municipalities_%282009%29.svg), which is based upon Statistic Finland accounts. Imperator may have not been that specific and careful in taking in it, making sure no Finnish-majorital lands are included, but the same can be said for many sites in this map - like the Channel Islands, they're not included, they're in Europe, they're Germanic? Oh no...all you're whining about is small border wrongness.

2: You still have no source saying that Alsatian is the dominant *mother* tongue in Alsace, while I brought up the French NISES states from 1999 - endsaying in that Alsatian was known by less than half the population as mother or second tongue, and its knowers were lowering.

3: Dansk is definitely spoken less in Greenland and it is not European, really, but the map's already published, oh well. (http://www.ethnologue.com/country/GL/languages)
Germanic Languages: 5/22/2016 18:18:24


Angry Koala
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About the notation, well I usually rate maps where I participate in the discussions or maps I tested, that's it, frankly you take it too seriously, I rated indeed poorly this map but well that was expected since, according to me the current map has no actual relevance with the title that was chosen, and many errors are still present. But well I could change my note if things are finally improved and fixed.

1,
And please not again your poor map that has not even legends on it! Gosh that is really pitiful. Your map does not even exactly match with what Imperator did, and I already explained you how your map is irrelevant, since if we take Alsace, you could have dark colors everywhere excepted important cities, by your weak reasoning only supported by a poor map, we could then consider Alsace has an extreme majority of Alsatian speakers, since most of the territories are inhabited by a majority of them. I did not count even the people speaking Germanic languages other than Alsatian, since there is a big community of Germans, but also many people learnt German at school.

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And you still have no source saying that Swedish is dominant in the regions that were added in Finland, excepted few towns nothing else prove it is spoken in majority in the regions that were added. You ignore the work made by the University of Laval, a way more relevant source of information, than your poor map with no legends at all. Once you match with as good sources as the ones I shared, we could then discuss.

3,
Indeed it has already been published, but if Imperator had been focused on a map really showing where Germanic Languages are spoken (like this one: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2a/Germanic_Languages_Map_Europe.png ) and not nations where Germanic languages are dominant then his map would have been totally accurate, sadly it isn't.
Germanic Languages: 5/22/2016 18:43:33

gunay
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I'd add Alsace, and Brussels and Liechtenstein as separate provinces (like that dot in London/stockholm etc)

Edited 5/22/2016 18:43:46
Germanic Languages: 5/22/2016 18:53:22


Жұқтыру
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You're rating on things that don't lower the weightiest map's factor: playability.

1: I've given the legend 4 times now, this is the actual Wikicommons page on this. (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Languages_of_Finnish_municipalities_%282013%29.svg), so a lack of pity here. And it doesn't precisely match - you're whining about small border details.

2: This is separate from 1, so don't talk about it. Your source is not relevant here, this is only first tongues counted, otherwise loads of Europe could be put in as Germanic for knowing English. And even then, barely over half by your source, and less than half and lowering by mine.

3: In that map...at any rate, English is spoken more in Cardiff than Reval.
Germanic Languages: 5/22/2016 19:35:30


Angry Koala
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1, And so you are that lazy to not explain us the legends here since they are not shown in that poor map you shared here? and "few borders" well it is more like it does not match AT ALL: most of the territories in the south of Finland have a minority of Swedish speakers (according to your own map), so tell me how that is a "small border detail"? an Entire Region (the territory named "Raseborg", which is inaccurate since the name only refers to one city not an entire region again). And a map isn't enough, since it does not show anyway the real percentage of speakers in the regions mentioned, the region that was added by Imperator (Aboland but then he changed its name) had 6% of Finnish speakers, this is what matters, since Imperator precisely said he would not add regions were Germanic languages are in minority.

2, The source I provided about Alsatian language showed people speaking it as a first language mainly, since as I told you (I do not know how many times I will have to tell you this) that regional languages in France are mostly spoken and known by natives speakers, people that learnt it at school are a very small minority since only people born after the 90s could have an education in regional languages mostly, so the 53% of Alsatian speakers is composed mainly of adult persons that learnt Alsatian as a native language. And anyway you still did not explain me why Alsace is omitted whereas regions of Finland where a Germanic language is less spoken are added, or even more inaccurately Greenland regions...

3, Well I never said this map had no flaws itself, but sadly there are very few maps showing Germanic Languages in Europe, and if we compare that map to what Imperator did, that map is clearly more accurate to the "theme".
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