hear it is http://i.imgur.com/xjNDOY1.png

I hop dis helps u maek a map of waco and mebbe u will get payd 4 it :)

@Belgian Gentleman-

it is a EUROPEAN Germanic language map.

I asked about Namibia as German is spoken their. But is only European.

Also,

1.Under the capitals bonus' on the map, you are missing Reykjavik(Iceland), Copenhagen(Denmark) and Nuuk(If you are doing Greenland).

2. spelling checks-

Danish-
Greenland= Grønland
Copenhagen= København
Denmark= Danmark

answering your comment since i cant reply in the Map's page:

While I do appreciate criticism, I do not appreciate vague criticism. You say "Finland regions where Swedish is spoken by less than 6% of people", which is really just unhelpful. How am I supposed to have any idea what regions you're talking about?

An hypocrite posture from you Imperator, not really surprising tbh.

Vague criticism when I sent you tons of links with sites providing information with precise stats explaining where does this 6% came from. The regions you added in Finland are not Germanic lands, there are only some cities which indeed have a Swedish majority, but that's all, the only thing you did here is changing the name you wrote before (Aboland to Jakobstad), which is even more irrelevant since it only mentions one city, whereas the territory you added here is an entire region not only "one city", you should have consequently changed that territory and only showed cities where Germanic languages are majority (see this map to see what really Jakobstad is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jakobstad#/media/File:Pietarsaari.sijainti.suomi.2008.svg )... Frankly your bad faith is obvious here.
If you see it as vague, it is because you openly ignored my comments (see for example everything that was said about Alsace, and the meticulous study of the University of Laval that showed that in 2014 a majority of Alsatians, 53%, still spoke Alsatian a Germanic tongue). So to answer you, you indeed refuse any criticisms, even if they are purposely made to help you here, blame yourself.

Edited 5/22/2016 15:14:27

And btw (I have still some hope about you), if you are going to finally accept constructive criticisms take also in count this:

Greenland should not be added, since the most spoken language in that region isn't a Germanic language but Kalaallisut (Greenlandic), spoken by about 50,000 people out of 58,000 inhabitants in Greenland. And since you won't believe me because well anything I say has to be "ignored", here is a quote "A majority of the population speak Kalaallisut (West Greenlandic), most of them bilingually. It is spoken by about 50,000 people, making it the most populous of the Eskimo–Aleut language family, spoken by more people than all the other languages of the family combined." (source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenland#Languages). Not to mention Greenlandic isn't the unique language spoken that isn't Germanic, you have many other minority Eskimo languages and dialects.

Haha, Koala still salty.

There are people (Juq is one I know, and now you) who rate maps on petty things like this, but to be honest the vast majority of people just rate maps on how well they play; So please don't try to threaten me with a bad rating if I don't make changes you want me to.

Not a threat at all Imperator, I usually rate maps where I took part in the discussion or maps I tested before they were published that's all, and btw I am free to rate it the way I want fortunately, do not take it bad.

1: The lands put in Finland are mostly Swedish-speaking, based on this map (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/92/Languages_of_Finnish_municipalities_%282009%29.svg), which is based upon Statistic Finland accounts. Imperator may have not been that specific and careful in taking in it, making sure no Finnish-majorital lands are included, but the same can be said for many sites in this map - like the Channel Islands, they're not included, they're in Europe, they're Germanic? Oh no...all you're whining about is small border wrongness.

2: You still have no source saying that Alsatian is the dominant *mother* tongue in Alsace, while I brought up the French NISES states from 1999 - endsaying in that Alsatian was known by less than half the population as mother or second tongue, and its knowers were lowering.

3: Dansk is definitely spoken less in Greenland and it is not European, really, but the map's already published, oh well. (http://www.ethnologue.com/country/GL/languages)

About the notation, well I usually rate maps where I participate in the discussions or maps I tested, that's it, frankly you take it too seriously, I rated indeed poorly this map but well that was expected since, according to me the current map has no actual relevance with the title that was chosen, and many errors are still present. But well I could change my note if things are finally improved and fixed.

1,
And please not again your poor map that has not even legends on it! Gosh that is really pitiful. Your map does not even exactly match with what Imperator did, and I already explained you how your map is irrelevant, since if we take Alsace, you could have dark colors everywhere excepted important cities, by your weak reasoning only supported by a poor map, we could then consider Alsace has an extreme majority of Alsatian speakers, since most of the territories are inhabited by a majority of them. I did not count even the people speaking Germanic languages other than Alsatian, since there is a big community of Germans, but also many people learnt German at school.

2,
And you still have no source saying that Swedish is dominant in the regions that were added in Finland, excepted few towns nothing else prove it is spoken in majority in the regions that were added. You ignore the work made by the University of Laval, a way more relevant source of information, than your poor map with no legends at all. Once you match with as good sources as the ones I shared, we could then discuss.

3,
Indeed it has already been published, but if Imperator had been focused on a map really showing where Germanic Languages are spoken (like this one: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2a/Germanic_Languages_Map_Europe.png ) and not nations where Germanic languages are dominant then his map would have been totally accurate, sadly it isn't.

I'd add Alsace, and Brussels and Liechtenstein as separate provinces (like that dot in London/stockholm etc)

Edited 5/22/2016 18:43:46

You're rating on things that don't lower the weightiest map's factor: playability.

1: I've given the legend 4 times now, this is the actual Wikicommons page on this. (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Languages_of_Finnish_municipalities_%282013%29.svg), so a lack of pity here. And it doesn't precisely match - you're whining about small border details.

2: This is separate from 1, so don't talk about it. Your source is not relevant here, this is only first tongues counted, otherwise loads of Europe could be put in as Germanic for knowing English. And even then, barely over half by your source, and less than half and lowering by mine.

3: In that map...at any rate, English is spoken more in Cardiff than Reval.

1, And so you are that lazy to not explain us the legends here since they are not shown in that poor map you shared here? and "few borders" well it is more like it does not match AT ALL: most of the territories in the south of Finland have a minority of Swedish speakers (according to your own map), so tell me how that is a "small border detail"? an Entire Region (the territory named "Raseborg", which is inaccurate since the name only refers to one city not an entire region again). And a map isn't enough, since it does not show anyway the real percentage of speakers in the regions mentioned, the region that was added by Imperator (Aboland but then he changed its name) had 6% of Finnish speakers, this is what matters, since Imperator precisely said he would not add regions were Germanic languages are in minority.

2, The source I provided about Alsatian language showed people speaking it as a first language mainly, since as I told you (I do not know how many times I will have to tell you this) that regional languages in France are mostly spoken and known by natives speakers, people that learnt it at school are a very small minority since only people born after the 90s could have an education in regional languages mostly, so the 53% of Alsatian speakers is composed mainly of adult persons that learnt Alsatian as a native language. And anyway you still did not explain me why Alsace is omitted whereas regions of Finland where a Germanic language is less spoken are added, or even more inaccurately Greenland regions...

3, Well I never said this map had no flaws itself, but sadly there are very few maps showing Germanic Languages in Europe, and if we compare that map to what Imperator did, that map is clearly more accurate to the "theme".

Vague criticism when I sent you tons of links with sites providing information with precise stats explaining where does this 6% came from.

I was sent a map with swedish speaking regions in blue, I added them. The only name you've mentioned is "Turku" which I've already established is not actually inc luded in my map and was just an error on my part thinking that it was.

And funnily enough, you linked to a map showing the exact same regions that I've added on my map (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2a/Germanic_Languages_Map_Europe.png), so frankly I'm not sure what you want with finland. You're sending very conflicting messages here.

3,
Indeed it has already been published, but if Imperator had been focused on a map really showing where Germanic Languages are spoken (like this one: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2a/Germanic_Languages_Map_Europe.png ) and not nations where Germanic languages are dominant then his map would have been totally accurate, sadly it isn't.

While accuracy is important, it's only to a degree. Places like alsace and that region west of belgium are too small to have their own territory, and are therefore impractical to add.

Taking out places like northern scotland, western ireland, and northern norway eliminate conenctions that are crucial to gameplay, and are also off-limits:

http://i1263.photobucket.com/albums/ii638/bb4bb4/Play%20Risk%20Online%20Free%20%20%20WarLight.png?t=1463874699

Greenland should not be added, since the most spoken language in that region isn't a Germanic language but Kalaallisut (Greenlandic), spoken by about 50,000 people out of 58,000 inhabitants in Greenland. And since you won't believe me because well anything I say has to be "ignored", here is a quote "A majority of the population speak Kalaallisut (West Greenlandic), most of them bilingually. It is spoken by about 50,000 people, making it the most populous of the Eskimo–Aleut language family, spoken by more people than all the other languages of the family combined." (source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenland#Languages). Not to mention Greenlandic isn't the unique language spoken that isn't Germanic, you have many other minority Eskimo languages and dialects.

Greenland is part of denmark, and therefore gets added by default. Not to mention that most people in greenland speak danish as well as inuit.

but the same can be said for many sites in this map - like the Channel Islands, they're not included, they're in Europe, they're Germanic? Oh no...all you're whining about is small border wrongness.

The channel islands aren't even visible at the scale I've made the map at, and representing them with a circle would make them overlap with france, which would be just weird.

Now I know I said that I Didn't appreciate your vague criticism koala, but that's not entirely true. I do appreciate the discussion, although it does seem like you guys are just going back and forth and going nowhere.

The only name you've mentioned is "Turku" which I've already established is not actually inc luded in my map and was just an error on my part thinking that it was.

Turku is the other official name of Åbo, the name you added in that map before you changed that region's name into an even more inaccurately name of "one city": Jakobstad.

Greenland is part of denmark, and therefore gets added by default. Not to mention that most people in greenland speak danish as well as inuit.

Yes but your map isn't about "nations where Germanic languages are official/dominant", it is precisely about where Germanic languages are spoken natively or as a first language, and in this category Greenland has nothing to do here, since the native and first language is Greenlandic and other native languages, not Danish nor English. Another interested info: Greenland since 2009 has only one official language: Greenlandic.

Places like alsace and that region west of belgium are too small to have their own territory, and are therefore impractical to add.

Places like Alsace (8,500km2) (not even counting other French Germanic zones) should not be added but other places like Sudtyrol (7,000km2) that are smaller are added there?


Since misunderstanding have been solved (I hope), all have been said anyway, not going to torment you further.

Turku is the other official name of Åbo, the name you added in that map before you changed that region's name into an even more inaccurately name of "one city": Jakobstad.

It was a mistake on my part to name it turku. I've already fixed this mistake.

Do you actually have any reason to believe that I've included finnish municipalities where swedish is only spoken by 6% of the population?

Yes but your map isn't about "nations where Germanic languages are official/dominant"

Yes it is. If there is a state in which A germanic language is an official language, I am going to be including the whole of it's jurisdiction, as I've already established that I will not be cutting any more pieces out of countries.

Places like Alsace (8,500km2) (not even counting other French Germanic zones) should not be added but other places like Sudtyrol (7,000km2) that are smaller are added there?

Alsace and South tyrol are relatively similar in size, 3200 mi² vs 2900 mi². The difference is that south tyrol is a relatively square region, and makes a really nice territory. Alsace is really narrow, and thus makes a very poor territory.

Not to mention that only 39% of adults in alsace actually speak German, so by any reasonable definition it's not even Germanic.

Do you actually have any reason to believe that I've included finnish municipalities where swedish is only spoken by 6% of the population?

The thing is that you added also parts of Finland hinterland, not only "Swedish speaking cities" that are most of all close to the sea. If we were just showing cities where Swedish is dominant then it would be represented in your map as small points, not an entire region that you however represented here.

that only 39% of adults in alsace actually speak German, so by any reasonable definition it's not even Germanic.

Take a look on the link I provided from the University of Laval which roughly reported 53% of Alsatian speakers in 2014 (not even counting German speakers here), take also in count that in contrary of Sudtyrol or Finnish regions, there is in Alsace a big international city (Strasbourg), so this is why Alsatian speakers are "only representing" a little more than half of the total population. And even if we took in count 39% is still more than what you could find in Greenland or the Finnish regions that you added here (since what you show in your map does not only count Swedish speaking cities but also Finland hinterland with almost no Swedish speakers).