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Why are diplos fun?: 5/24/2016 00:21:42

Roland
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I'm not a very seasoned player, but I can't see the appeal of diplomacy games at all. They seem extremely boring and slow. Can you explain why you like them?
Why are diplos fun?: 5/24/2016 00:24:19


GeneralPE
Level 56
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Do you mean real-time diplos?
Why are diplos fun?: 5/24/2016 00:26:35

Roland
Level 38
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I mean any diplos
Why are diplos fun?: 5/24/2016 00:30:32


GeneralPE
Level 56
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Real time are shit because you need half a day and everyone gets booted. For multi-day, I like it because I'm into history and it is fun to doublecross people. Plus, strategy requires too much beancounting, and I can't JUST post on OT
Why are diplos fun?: 5/24/2016 00:31:17

Roland
Level 38
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Ah, I see how a reenactment could be cool
Why are diplos fun?: 5/24/2016 00:51:17


knyte 
Level 58
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Strat only devolves into beancounting on 0% SR
Why are diplos fun?: 5/24/2016 00:53:51


GeneralPE
Level 56
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So the most played rounding mode and luck mode?
Why are diplos fun?: 5/24/2016 01:35:19


Clint Eastwood
Level 56
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Roland, take a look at the chat (skim through it, it's reeeeeeeeeeally long. Read it all if you want) and you'll see why diplos are fun. On a scale of 1 to 10, the roleplay level in this game is 42.

https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=11194349
Why are diplos fun?: 5/24/2016 01:43:50

Roland
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Yeah I'm not much of a roleplayer, but I see the appeal
Why are diplos fun?: 5/24/2016 01:56:31


Zephyrum 
Level 60
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Three ways to enjoy a diplo:

1) Roleplay
If you find yourself enjoying any sort of roleplays, you'll enjoy taking another character as you for some time.

2) History
Some people like learning history, so historical-based games are very appealing to them.

3) Unique gameplay
Varies a lot from your typical FFA due to very special rules. Sometimes it's fun to just duke it out with so many mind games involves that your average open game 8-man Guiroma challenge can't do.
Why are diplos fun?: 5/24/2016 02:02:46


Жұқтыру
Level 55
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https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=11194349


Saddest thing I saw in my life. -10/10

Edited 5/24/2016 02:03:01
Why are diplos fun?: 5/24/2016 02:26:42


Clint Eastwood
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You mean sad as in all the death? Because there's a lot of that.
Why are diplos fun?: 5/24/2016 02:26:59

madking321
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Why are diplos fun?: 5/24/2016 02:48:27


DerWyyy
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1. this is an insane diplo game.. look at history and chat. people go at eachother like crazy
-file:///home/chronos/u-4c92afdd4cd566a91d7696191d2d9cad17cdee04/Downloads/warlight.html

2. unless you have 5 hours to kill, dont do a real time diplomacy

3. diplomacy games make it realistic, alliances, betrayal, war, it has it all, plus role playing. When i found diplo games I couldn't stop. they are very fun.

4. If that link doesnt work sorry my school blocked Warlight so on unblocked sight
Why are diplos fun?: 5/24/2016 02:53:18


DerWyyy
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pardon here is the link--


https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=8997726

Edited 5/24/2016 02:54:33
Why are diplos fun?: 5/25/2016 00:56:26

madking321
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Some of us like to roleplay as gay pirates you know.
Why are diplos fun?: 5/25/2016 02:00:31

M. Poireau
Level 53
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I seem to be a minority opinion, but I think that "diplomacy"-style games are absolutely fascinating strategically and a great test of your skills. However, I also find that the way most people play "diplos" on Warlight is extremely boring - often nothing happens for 10 or 20 turns at a time, the game eventually staggers forward simply because someone got booted, and when things do happen they devolve into arguments over the rules.

There are ways to avoid these problems, however. It's just a design issue, and there are lots of settings which can be used to create fun and engaging "diplomacy"-style play.

I'm not really a diplomacy player on Warlight (because of the issues mentioned above), but I would recommend to look for games with a group of players who know each other and/or have played before and a game WITHOUT ALLIANCE/DECLARATION rules. Those are more likely to be interesting.

(How would you do a "better" diplo? I posted some thoughts before towards the end of this thread:

https://www.warlight.net/Forum/143961-pe-attacked-didnt-take-land)
Why are diplos fun?: 5/25/2016 02:04:27


Жұқтыру
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+1
Why are diplos fun?: 5/25/2016 02:09:04


helo
Level 52
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no clue why people indulge themselves in those borefests

but w/e - to each his own
Why are diplos fun?: 5/25/2016 02:18:38


skull11244
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no clue why people join troll clans

but w/e - to each his own
Why are diplos fun?: 5/25/2016 02:21:15


helo
Level 52
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kid, you're in CORP

nuff said
Why are diplos fun?: 5/25/2016 04:41:33


Dogberry
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M. Poireau nailed it. I cannot agree enough with every single thing he said.
Why are diplos fun?: 5/25/2016 19:07:28

M. Poireau
Level 53
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Perhaps I am not as much in the minority as I thought!

Thanks for the kind words.
Why are diplos fun?: 5/25/2016 19:38:32


Okabe Rintarou ( AKA Hououin Kyouma)
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Why are diplos fun?: 5/25/2016 19:47:11


Fleecemaster 
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Diplos only work with the right sort of players, unfortunatly they are incredibly rare :/
Why are diplos fun?: 5/25/2016 20:00:28

M. Poireau
Level 53
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(Eh. You can improve your odds a lot by having a more reasonable set of rules - then just about any game can be fun, for the same reasons non-diplo games are fun.)
Why are diplos fun?: 5/25/2016 20:11:06


DerWyyy
Level 53
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the players are rare, theirs always that 1 person who screws it up on first turn...
Why are diplos fun?: 5/25/2016 20:28:42


Master HFG
Level 55
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Oh Poireau, finally someone with the same opinion of diplos!

One of my best diplos so far, I am perfecting the scenario to this day:
https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=8377125
Why are diplos fun?: 5/25/2016 20:33:42


Master HFG
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Good diplos are always an strategy game of their own kind.

The perfect diplo has:

1) short, but gapless rules

2) reliable players

3) any system that gives the players "ambitions"

As soon as everyone fights for his own ambitions, the game works. Think about it.
Why are diplos fun?: 5/25/2016 21:13:42

M. Poireau
Level 53
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Precisely.

I played in a Game of Thrones diplomacy game once. It was quite enjoyable in a lot of ways, as it turned out (largely due to not having to worry about "declaration" rules).

However, at the start of the game they explained that so-and-so was King and we were all his vassals. We were all expected to swear fealty and then to discuss the state of affairs and who might be chosen for Master of Coin (a meaningless title with no actual powers). Finally, some people got tired of it or got booted and some things started to happen.

Where is the fun in that?

Were I to make that, no way would that fly. No, set the game at the end of the first season/book.

Like so:

* The King has just been killed, and Ned Stark has been beheaded by the "new" King (Joffrey).

* The King's two brothers both have a claim to the throne (Renly and Stannis).

* The Northern King wants revenge (Robb Stark), and has a large army behind him willing to put him on the throne.

* The Iron Islanders are at war with the North.

* In the East, Daenerys is raising an army and many back her for the throne as well.

* Meanwhile, the White Walkers are coming, adding pressure to the whole situation. (Ideally an AI with incredible numbers of armies.)

Now THAT would be an interesting diplomacy.

Give people motives and things to fight over - that's what diplomacy is all about.
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