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Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 10/18/2016 01:31:50

Nauzhror 
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"You weren't there because none of this is your business. So what makes you think that you know jacksh*t about Zero?"

Someone doing some good doesn't invalidate all the harm they've done.

He is selfish. He does good to gain respect. He doesn't actually care about anyone but himself.

His reputation is fucked. It's not because of anything we did semice, it's because of what he did.

Don't go there.


He won't play RT often because he's afraid if his stats get tarnished people won't think he's as great.

He repeatedly begged people to VTE in RT games he did lose for the same reason.

He hacked someones skype account, went through their private messages, disseminated messages contained therein.

That is not okay. It is illegal in much of the world. If Tacky cared and pushed the issue legally, Zero, living in Canada, could get sentenced with jail time.

Yes, I am serious.

You do not just get to pretend that his behavior is okay and ask people to stop mentioning it. Your actions have consequences, as do his.

His excuses for why he did it are sociopathic behavior. Sociopaths do not care about other people, they use them, they're opportunists, and they'll throw you under the bus the moment doing so becomes convenient to them.

You think it's mean to "bully" him on Warlight? I'd see him spend 2-5 years in jail. That'd be justice.

Frankly, I think less of every single person in Lynx for allowing him to stay in the clan, and having the audacity to even think of defending that piece of shit.

I don't kowtow to anyone. I don't need your respect. I respect me. That's more than enough for me.

Edited 10/18/2016 01:37:57
Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 10/18/2016 01:44:56


TBestLittleHelper
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"I'd see him spend 2-5 years in jail. That'd be justice"

US has ridiculous punishment's, and expectations of punishments.

Eithe way, I belive someone said that Tacky and ZBD has settled this in private (don't know the details of it) but, I don't think either of them wants a public discussion about it.

Edited 10/18/2016 01:48:00
Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 10/18/2016 01:48:20


Electric_Kitten
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Let's keep in mind that this is your opinion of Zero, and that we all can make our own decisions about him without you posting these sorts of messages ripping him apart.

As someone who never expearianced any of this and has a very different standpoint on the issue, you are only making me like you less, as oppossed to your goal of getting everyone to hate Zero's guts. For every person you convince that Zero is sub-human, there will be at least one person more who loses respect for you and gains maybe even a little symapthy for Zero.

I consider Zero a friend of mine. (or as close as you can get to a friend through Warlight alone) I have seen no first-hand evidance of the way you and people who seem to be mostly Outlaws claim he treats people. He's been caring about as much as it is possible to care for other people on an online risk clone game.

Edited 10/18/2016 01:51:48
Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 10/18/2016 01:50:36

Nauzhror 
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"For every person you convince that Zero is sub-human, there will be at least one person more who loses respect for you and gains maybe even a little symapthy for Zero. "

This is nonsense.

There's the potential to lose respect from people. It's not an eventuality that I offend at least as many as I sway.

But that's pointless, because anyone that thinks less of me for being opinionated isn't fit to polish my boots as far as I'm concerned and their opinion of me means absolutely nil.

I don't respect people who are scared to voice their real opinions and the only person whose respect I seek is mine.
Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 10/18/2016 02:41:48


Bonsai 
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"As someone who never expearianced any of this and has a very different standpoint on the issue, you are only making me like you less"

Here's the problem - the opinions being shared by all of the new 101st members mean very little to us because you weren't around when the split happened and have no idea what you're talking about. Zero was super shady, so whether or not that's the Zero that you know, there are real reasons for the way we feel about him too. Unless you like your private skype conversations being spied on and shared with others without your consent, then I guess we're way out of line.

Outlaws leaving was the best thing that could have happened to 101st - we tried very hard to work something out to stay, and Lynx panicked when they realized we weren't bluffing and were really leaving. They immediately invited half of us to join Lynx, and then when we all said no and left anyways, they clearly realized that they'd dropped the ball on their relationship with 101st. Of course they're going to rebuild it on rainbows and unicorns. You're welcome.
Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 10/18/2016 04:59:38


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Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 10/18/2016 07:27:23


krunx 
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What does Zero and his behaviour have for a value in this case?
Right, none. I do not know the turn of events of this skype thing and if it is like it is written here, I discountenance this behaviour and personally if I would had to decide, I would have voted for a kick. But this story is over and irrelevant for this topic and even more for this thread.

I will comment on the current case here:
https://www.warlight.net/Forum/205389-cl-101outlaw-committe-discussion

Edited 10/18/2016 08:26:19
Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 10/18/2016 11:12:53


Benjamin628 
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Mommy I gave someone my password and he hacked my other accounts! It's not my fault!
Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 10/18/2016 15:48:47


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fI probably know Zero most considering I mentored him in his early levels (13 to be exact)

You weren't there Semicedevine when 101 was left by me, Instead you are getting a probably a biased story since the word toxic is there.. But yeah I recruiting Zero, MarkusBM , Tacky and styxie was leaving it in ruins and very toxic.

Recruiting threads of Lynx off 101 yes Zero did this. Recruiting Njord and Benny during the time I told Lynx we were leaving. Also him recruiting virtually every ! member without going through me behind my back.

So, Yes I know Jack about Zero and I know he won't respond on this thread cause he knows this is true and will probably play the victim card in private.

ForK the leader of 101 claiming I colluded with the council this drama!a stirring behaviour is disgusting and the fact he has not appeared to realise his actions is very childish and moronic. How people can accept this behaviour especially from a clan? Then we have Marseilles
Trying to spark a boycott the clan league for next season. And also the begging of forcing a vote in the game chat of a entirely different topic.

Credit to the players from Lynx (Andy and Dom) who wrote good opinions without making silly comments.

The sad thing from all this Lynx took no action on Zero and encouraged this by no action.

If you guys stop posting crap about us which is fake I wouldn't be posting wasting my time.

Edited 10/18/2016 15:55:29
Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 10/18/2016 16:11:26


linberson 
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Platinum, please go over grammar and spelling again and then post here: https://www.warlight.net/Forum/205389-cl-101outlaw-committe-discussion.

Thank you!
- downvoted post by Ox
Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 10/18/2016 17:28:24


Master Turtle 
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If Fizzer made an Official clan League that was automated and such, the divisions (or however he organizes it) they would be set. Clans would be promoted/relegated and not interchangeable like it is being done here. I'm not saying that this is "just" but I think it is "fair" since it is the same rule being applied to everyone....

Main point here: Pray that Fizzer someday makes an official clan league.
Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 10/18/2016 17:30:39

Mike
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Why dont YOU create a new thread linberson ??!
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jk

So where is the last update and the rankings and who will prom... err relegate ?
Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 10/18/2016 17:55:15

Memele 
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Tha reminds me that I forgot to update the 1st post lol
Now it's up to date but I guess nobody cares ^^U
Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 10/18/2016 19:35:48


Hades 
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I think this clan league is better than if fizzer had made one. I'd rather avoid more commanders xD
Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 10/18/2016 20:05:55

MasterOfWarZone
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Clan League Season 1 As Per Fizzer:

Commanders
No-Split
Multi-Attack
LD

Pick two, every template gets two.
Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 10/18/2016 20:07:58


Simi the Lunatic
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lol
Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 10/18/2016 20:10:59


sound_of_silence
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cool it's been a long time that warlight have a major drama.
Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 10/18/2016 20:45:08


linberson 
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Looking at the season I would say winners are being made in the teamgames. Thats were 101st was clearly better than Blitz.
        1v1     2v2     3v3     Max     win%
101st	51	52	55	174	66.13%
Blitz	69	48	40	157	65.15%


Edit: proper table, thanks memele

Edited 10/18/2016 21:16:02
Clan League 8 Division B Official Thread: 10/18/2016 21:13:50


Ox
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cool it's been a long time that warlight have a major drama.

https://www.warlight.net/Forum/168387-call-exclude-mhunters-community-events
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