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Update 3.17 discussion: Forum voting, level liking: 9/7/2016 08:29:32

francisco0002
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why are you taking the time to downvote threads because you disagree with them politically? Alt-right posts aren't even that bad, it's 1416 who's spamming all this crap which is the real problem. Get rid of spam, not free speech. In fact, you're starting to look like an authoritarian because you're trying to control the forums
Update 3.17 discussion: Forum voting, level liking: 9/7/2016 17:55:23


Stewie
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bomb(bump)
Update 3.17 discussion: Forum voting, level liking: 9/7/2016 18:17:32


Fan the Apostle
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Well, take it into context. Having a easily disagrable forum, it's going to have a crash when you don't put exclusive thresholds into it.
Update 3.17 discussion: Forum voting, level liking: 9/8/2016 08:45:07


indibob
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clan league update doesn't even appear on the dashboard

This forum system sucks!
If a new post is made it should appear so we can see it
What's the point in continuingly having the same postings showing?

We need to be able to see the latest postings. That's how a forum works


Average time of last posing on threads showing is over 33 hours. I would say the forum system has officially died

Edited 9/8/2016 08:56:36
Update 3.17 discussion: Forum voting, level liking: 9/8/2016 19:55:24


indibob
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As a suggestion, perhaps we could have a downvote button but no upvote?
Update 3.17 discussion: Forum voting, level liking: 9/8/2016 19:56:08


Zephyrum
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Anonym spamming in a nutshell

Update 3.17 discussion: Forum voting, level liking: 9/10/2016 00:33:36

Toluene
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Karl and anonym are persistent trolls who do not usually play the game. They do need to be dealt with.

I agree with Zephyrum.


Both play the game, and Karl plays the game extensively. He's always asking to play a 2v2 or a WWII scenario. I played a game with 1416 and Karl once, and neither were half-bad. I wouldn't have any problem saying that both 1416 and Karl are skilled at the game.
Update 3.17 discussion: Forum voting, level liking: 9/14/2016 01:55:34


DerWyyy
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ughh, this.update.sucks.

look at OT,
the fun is away...

I think you should be able to downvote a single person in the post but not an entire thread, i agree its more like reddit...

PS great gif Zeph, totally defines squiggles
Update 3.17 discussion: Forum voting, level liking: 9/15/2016 04:11:09

wct
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Simple solution: User preference to set personal forum threshold from a fixed set of levels, "Announcements and popular posts", "General audience", "Controversial discussions", "Flamey shit", "Spammy shit".

A simple numerical scale (determined by Fizzer) would be associated with each level. Essentially, it would be like +1, 0 (default), -1, -2, -3. You could simplify it to just three levels, or even just two, if you really wanted. I'm just giving the general idea.

Default would be General Audience (0). For those who really get bothered by forum stuff, they can opt-in to "Announcements and popular posts only" (+1). For those willing to view and engage in more of the typical OT discussion-type posts, they could opt-in to "Controversial discussions" (-1). The other two levels are just to allow the shitposters a chance to vent their shitposting without bothering everyone else (-2), and to allow the worst of the worst spammy kinds of posts (-3) to be monitored by anyone willing to endure them.

Once you pick your personal threshold, you only bother downvoting things that you're seeing but which don't belong at your current threshold level.

I would expect most posts to sit at the default 0. Only those that get a significant net-positive rating would rank up to +1. Anything that bugs the majority of forumers will eventually get bumped down to -1, and for things even the OT-regulars can't stand will get bumped even lower.

Aside from the implementation of a user-preference for personal threshold, the current system would remain basically identical to how it is now. It would be a relatively simple fix and I think it would satisfy just about everybody.

Edited 9/15/2016 04:11:45
Update 3.17 discussion: Forum voting, level liking: 9/22/2016 22:14:46


Wally Balls 
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fix the voting in the off-topic forum please. 90% of threads are still being hidden. people are clearly downvoting like assholes, people they don't like, topics they don't like etc. only threads that should be hidden are troll/spam threads, not threads where people are having real discussions.
Update 3.17 discussion: Forum voting, level liking: 9/23/2016 02:24:22


Master Jz 
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People are probably downvoting because of the sheer volume of off topic threads on the all forums page. Giving people an option to exclude off topic threads from the all forums page would help solve the problem.

Edited 9/23/2016 02:29:40
Update 3.17 discussion: Forum voting, level liking: 9/23/2016 06:56:34

wct
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@Fizzer: The latest update with the lowered threshold for comments is definitely an improvement. At least now there is some feedback (in the form of successfully hidden noisy/trollish comments) that comment downvoting can be successful.

I have a feeling that the threshold for comments is still slightly too high, since trollish comments still have a fairly long life-span. But perhaps as people catch on to it and start dv'ing more, it will work properly and thus maybe it's actually at the right level.

I'd give it a week or two to see if people catch on. If not, then perhaps lower the threshold slightly one more time. One thing I can definitely say is that it's not too low: it's not overly easy to dv comments to become hidden.

Edited 9/23/2016 06:58:55
Update 3.17 discussion: Forum voting, level liking: 9/26/2016 18:38:26

wct
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@Fizzer: I have noticed a slight performance bug with the voting system. It probably has something to do with either a DB query or whatever data structure you're using to perform the modifications to comment votes (I'm just guessing, based on the apparent O(n) performance behaviour).

When you use thumbs up or down on a comment in a thread that contains many comments (like https://www.warlight.net/Forum/4307-question-?Offset=6870 for instance) the UI shows the spinning progress indicator for a much much longer time than when you do it on a small thread. It still works, it's just really slow (comparatively speaking; it's not unbearably slow, just annoying).

It seems that this delay only happens the first time you vote on a comment. After that, the delay is much shorter, but other 'virgin' comments still have long delays on first vote. Probably there's some level of caching going on? Anyway, hope that helps you identify the culprit.
Update 3.17 discussion: Forum voting, level liking: 9/26/2016 19:06:37


Beren Erchamion 
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@wct, you should report this as a bug if you haven't already.
Update 3.17 discussion: Forum voting, level liking: 9/26/2016 19:33:24

wct
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Good idea, thx. Done!
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