Are the top 10 ratings right now accurate or should some teams be above others? What's your opinion? Here's mine:

1. Shuai and Dead piggy: Shuai has a ton of 2v2 ladder experience and success and Dead piggy is a great player.
2. Beelzebub and Gnuffone: Beelzebub has proved himself on the 2v2 ladder and Gnuffone is a very good player.
3. Dreuj and brisk: These guys are much lower rated on the actual ladder but I think these 2 could easily compete for the top spot if they are focused, I think they just don't care much on the 2v2 ladder anymore.
4. Timinator and Ultimaratio: Timinator is an amazing player and ultimaratio is a good teamplayer.
5. Zibik and Heyheuhei: Both are great 1v1 players and Heyheuhei has a lot of 2v2 ladder experience. However, I think the 2v2 ladder has gotten stronger since they were last in it and they might not communicate well enough to compete with the top teams.
6. Flyingburrtio and Jupiter: Both are very good 1v1 player and better at team games. However, I think there are just so many very good teams right now that they have to be #6 instead of higher.
7. Ineffable and Mirror: This team was top 3 for a very long stretch recently, but with the increase in competition, they have moved down. They are both good players and communicate well, but I don't think they can consistently beat the top teams.
8. Aper and Summer: Summer is a very good player, and aper is a decent player. Summer isn't good enough to beat most of the top 2v2 teams without a very good teammate.
9. Giovanni and Schmidt: Both very good players on warlight, I don't think they have a huge amount of communication though.
10. Dom and Unreality: Untried team so far, has faced only one top 10 team, which was a win, but they lost to the 17th ranked team. I think they will surprise a lot of people by staying in the top 10, both are good players, and they communicate well I think.

Honorable mentions:
[HL]nnn and Ko: Ko's very good but nnn keeps them out of the top 10.
Latnox and nameless: Both seem to be good teamplayers but not able to consistently compete at a high level.
Widzisz and Bzox: Widzisz is not a great teamplayer I think, and bzox is not a great all-around player.
Retrospecka and Nord: I doubt they communicate much at all, and neither is known for being a great teamplayer
Julkorn and orinocoflows: Very low rated right now, will rise though because Julkorn is a very good player and orinocoflows is a good teammate.

Synesthesia and I are 9-0 at 2022 or so atm. We'll be finishing a game soon if you'd like to throw us in on this :P

Very hard to tell. Synesthesia is a great player and you are good at 2v2. But you have faced no top 10 teams yet. I would put you guys at 5 I think, because you guys can easily communicate, and are probably among the most talkative teams on warlight.

We went against Brain and Gruffalo who were top 10 before they dropped out. Krzychu and Apollo were top 10 when we got the game with them. Lawm and Biggreen15 were rank 8 when we got the game with them. I will admit we just really haven't gotten many top teams besides Timi/Ulti, and Brisk/Dreuj. We're hoping to get Gui/Piggy, HHH/Zibik, or Gnuffone/Beelz soon.

Lolowut, none of those 3 teams would be top 10 right now though, even if we are not including their loss to you. Only Brain and Gruffalo would be a top 15 team if they played the ladder currently, Lawm and Biggreen are currently but I think there is 1-2 teams better than them below them. Your games against Timinator's team and Brisk and dreuj should show where you guys belong better. If you win one, lose one, I would still put you at 5. If you win both, I would put you guys at 3. If you lose both, I would put you guys at 8 I think. But we'll just have to see, it will be good to see if you guys are a top team or if you are a step below them.

Miyagi&TWM: Both absurdly good players, personally they should be top 3 automatically, considering they're recent win against Brisk and Druej. Though im pretty sure it is just Miyagi pupating TWM. I mean he is a legend i heard but NBD. Not to mention before their last 3 losses they beat about 5 middle/high tier ladder teams in a row.

on a side note im hurt you didnt mention us jsa buddy i thought we deserved special mention considering Nord and reahiuarhngunonea got one

I could have given honorable mentions to 5 other teams easily enough, including you guys.

I wanted to just give honorable mentions to 5. Why retrospecka and Nord above you guys? They're [WM] and are definitely better 1v1 players than you and TWM. You and TWM are just like a few other ladder teams, both good players but nothing that stands out. Lawm and Biggreen, Kryzchu and apollo, Goatfinger and Dev are all the same way. Prove me wrong by dominating the [WM]'s and the [WG]'s and brisk and dreuj. YOu have plenty of oppurtunity to do it there.

HA TWM could take them 1v1, i could on strat turkey or ancient greece, its all relatively, just cause they're WM doesnt make them gods they may get booted in our game, anyways Brisk and Dreuj are beat but Tenshi and Marc i will laugh at them if they dont beat us with the position they have. Mind you Nord was ranked 37 in the ladder for a long time.

Hey Miyagi! It's been a while, sorry I screwed you guys in the clan league :( You want to play some 1v1 games? You pick settings.

hmmm yes sure we were short handed anyways now we will be back in full power this league! Sure im always up for a little turkey

Ladder affected too much by luck. Take Dom for example, if thy got a bit lucky against Alex they could have won and would now be in top 3, if they got unlucky in one of their wins they would have lost and wouldn't be in top 10. Things like 3v2s and all could make a huge difference.
Me and gruff were lucky and unlucky. I think jell agree with me, that some of our wins, like against shmidt and summer, were probably flukes. Our win against moto and feather was quite due to luck too, could have gone either way, but we won thanks to some lucky guesses. On the other hand, i was quite bitter about our losses to lolowut and lawm, they beat us fair and square because im pretty sure we can beat them most of the time.

So yeah, it's a bit dumb to rank teams that have only played 20 games or so

Feel free to invite Synesthesia and I to 2v2 games if you truly feel you can beat us most of the time.

lol

JSA, you may want to fix our description, as we have beaten two top 10 teams now :)

http://warlight.net/LadderTeam?LadderTeamID=2712

Edited 11/25/2013 12:06:49

Widzisz and Bzox: Widzisz is not a great teamplayer I think, and bzox is not a great all-around player.

:D
Why are we in honorable mentions?

Widzisz, because bzox is good all-around and you are a great 1v1 player :) I was more giving reasons for why you are not top 10 than why you are honorable mentions :)

Unreality, that leaves the top 5 the same in my opinion, but moves Mirror's team to 6, Summer's to 7th, you guys to 8th, jupiter's team to 9th, givionanni's team to 10th.

Wid, because it's honorable being mentionated by JSA

Why are ladder rankings based on this subjective points system? ELO rating? It should be JSA rating. Then I will forever be #1.

Until Gnuffone and Beelzebub beat you guys. Then you move to #2 :)

Yeah, you scared them so much on forums that now they fear you even fi they don't encounter you