Wally Balls, did you really just log on your alt Scratch to nominate yourself?

Both accounts last seen 43 minutes ago, both accounts from California...

hmmm...

To dispel all doubt, here's Scratch's/Wally Ball's old thread:
https://www.warlight.net/Forum/162873-makes-players-wally-balls-great

and:

https://www.warlight.net/Forum/4201-thing-stopping-winning-90-games

Edited 12/24/2016 08:18:47

i don't know who that scratch guy is but he seems pretty smart

95% of frenchmen are arrogant pricks overcompensating for their small penis by being pompous dickheads.

Its you. Troll.

And you think he's smart because he (you) say ignorant racist things?

French is not a race.

Very astute observation.

Let me communicate with you on your level:

If somebody asked me for an example of an ad hominem attack, I could not think of a hypothetical that illustrates it clearer than what you just did.

And yet you're the one that keeps attacking me with these vague logical error claims. You probably couldn't spell logic without autocorrect.

Scratch (You, it is your alt, I can prove it) said something idiotic.

You reflect on the fact that I mistook French as a race. I concede that point.

However, you just said that your alt was smart because they say stupid things. That point will never go away and you cannot deflect it.

I seriously think you have mental issues in forming coherent thoughts.

And its an absolute CRAP example of ad hominem.

You claimed I'm an ignorant racist.

I pointed out that French is not a race.

You didn't 'concede' anything, you responded with a snide remark and by calling me an idiot.

What you should have done is say 'I was wrong, there was nothing racist about that, but I stand by that being ignorant'

What planet are you from? I admitted I was wrong about French being a race, your alt Scratch still says stupid things. You still praise your alt for being stupid.

I claimed you were ignorant. You simply don't know a lot of things.

I claimed that Scratch said something racist (I was wrong about French being a race, but please expound on why they all seem to share the same genetic makeup that would give them small genetalia and not be part of the same race.) I didn't say you were racist.

I said you cannot form coherent thoughts because you just demonstrated that people saying idiotic things are smart.

well it took me 124 games to get from a rating of 1339 to 1805

The only reason why it looks like I reached 1800 rating so fast is because I maxed out for 5 games at a time with 1 day commits (mostly even faster than that)

And I wanted to play as much as I could in the smallest time possible because I was hellbent on improvement

Because the more you play -> the more you lose -> the more you learn -> the more you grow

but whatever man whatever

No it didn't.

From the 161 games u played on the 1vs1 ladder u played a some of them on your first run, in early to mid 2015 (that was the old ladder template).

U played 61 games in your run in 2016 (on the new and current ladder). In your 62th game u had a rating over 1800 (the game againsz Mr. Z). So i do think i still have a valid point there to show u, that u was a stronger player, but just underperformed in the beginning, just like myself.

In comparison myself. I played 39th games to get to a 1700 rating, which was probably the right rating for me during that time. It was a faster rise to that rating, but i believe i got a higher rating when i got ranked in and it was an easier way to get to my real rating on 1700 than to yours of 1800 or slighty under 1800 in the high 1700, cause i do see that it seems u had some problems after that game against Mr. Z. It took me a little longer to get to 1800.

I don't want to discredit u or anything. I just wanted to show u, that it's not unnormal to underperform on the first run under these settings in the beginning. But that isn't an indicator of a real rating of a player. So for u to say u developed from a 1400 player to the #1 during that year is in reality not wrong, cause that's what the numbers show. But if we analyse these numbers, than u discredit yourself, because u never was a real 1400 player when u first joined the ladder. U just had some early problems, from which it took u some time to get back. I simply experienced the same, that's why i had to correct u on this one.

@edge sorry I got the numbers mixed up! for whatever reason I thought each page had listed 100 games instead of 50 games my mistake im a complete idiot omg

what your saying is that there's no evidence to prove that I sucked at the beginning of 2016... and that I already improved back in 2015

however if you look more closely at my games, let me ask you a question

would an 1800 rating player make these picks?

https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=10562285

https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=10604113

https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=10618131

https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=10424317

https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=10611542

(these games are dated from 2/4/2016 to 2/29/2016)

because if the answer is no, then I clearly wasn't an 1800 by the time i first joined the ladder in 2016

and therefore this would mean that my skill had to have improved overtime during this year rather than last year

I am geniuely curious to your answer to that

Edited 12/25/2016 01:51:13

Master Jz
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Edited 12/25/2016 01:35:07

@ Semice

The question u have to ask is not if an 1800 player, or a high 1700 players makes these picks. The exact question u have to ask is, if such a player who has no experience on that template would make these picks. That's what i meant with underperformance. That's probably not seen in the gameplay, so the gameplay is a good indicator for the skill of a player. But instead underperformance will be shown on picks, because playes have to figure out the template first.

Let's take a look at these games to figure it out.

First game: U recognised the ftb, something i'm not really sure a high 1700 or 1800 player would necessarly see. U should have changed the 1 and 2, through, but that's also a thing i see 1800 players do often wrong, if they pick an ftb. The 3 is probably not the best, but an ok pick. Then u should have made the 5 to 4 as a counter. That is the first mistake were u really can make a case about, that such a player wouldn't make this mistake.

Second game: That game reminds me of my first games on the ladder. Just pick around the map for position. No use of real combos. U don't see the ftb in this one and picked it instead as 2 and 4. The 3 is garbage of course. But let's take a look at the gameplay and there u see that u had definitely a better gameplay than your opponent. He didn't played it good. He should have beat you after the first turns, but u didn't make huge mistakes here. U played it good and that was the key to turn that game around. I would say that your gameplay here was on the level of a 1800 player.

Third game: You didn't see the ftb, but u picked at least the 1st pick in that ftb. Luck? Or did u done that subconsciously? Who knows. The 2nd and 3rd pick weren't the best. 4 and 5 are ok. Make the 6 to West Russia to counter the 5 and these 3 picks make all sense. But overall that's really the 1st game were u can make a case that there is nothing done, what u can expect from a 1800 player.

Fourth game: There are 3 ftbs, u didn't go for one of them. 2 of them were counterable. For 1 u would have picked a wastelanded bonus, which makes not much sense. The 1st pick can make sense to get an overall position in that area. It was likely that he might have set multiple picks in that area, especially if u expect your opponent to have picked the Scan ftb. If u expect that than u should have checked it with your picks. U at least expected your opponent in Scan, might even expected that ftb. I can't say from just viewing on that game. If u did u made a mistake by not checking it via picks, but than your gameplay would be good, because u would have challenged him in turn 2 with the positional advantage and in turn 3 maybe even with an income advantage, if he tries to defend Scan with all he got, if he doesn't and expand in another bonus, maybe a 3-bonus to gain the income advantage, u would have been able to break Scan the turn later. It didn't worked out, but that are resonable thoughts. With the 4,5,6 u should have checked the other ftb in Middle America. That is indeed another mistake. Breaking this game down, your picks probably werent at a 1800 level. Your gameplay in the 1st turn was reasonable and it wasn't that unlikely, that it would have turned out successfully.

Fifth game: U saw that ftb here, which is good, but u decided to pick it as a 1 and 4. That was a mistake, especially since u picked the 2 in East Russia. Change the 2 and 4 and it would have looked a little bit better. That would have been at least picks i can see an almost 1800 player would do. Your gameplay was ok as well.


The 3rd game is really the only one were i would say that it's clearly that u didn't done anything a 1800 player would do. In all the other games u did things right or at least reasonable to explain, which show me, that u had the traits already. In every game u did minor and sometimes bigger mistakes. That's inconsistency. U underperformed there. One of the reasons definitely was an the unexperience on the template. But that's not the only one. U're right, when u say that u probably wasn't a 1800 player during that time. I said in my last post u might was "just" a high 1700 player. Did i had the right estimate there? Probably not. But u had the traits to be and u showed it already in nearly each of these games. So u probably was more in the range of an 1650 to 1700 player. I would think it would be something like that. 61 games are enough games to develope into a 1800 player so i think this happened here. U got ranked in to low. While u got up to your real rating u learned things and developed probably more consistency, so your fast rise first came to a stop around the 1800 mark. But i think we both can agree on that u definitely wasn't a 1400 skilled player. Therefore u made to many things right and showed to much traits to often.

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Edited 12/25/2016 13:16:54

@Edge aghhh okay maybe your right

I probably picked up a few skills beforehand with my experience with clan league 7 anyways

thanks for the reply

and sorry if I may have derailed this thread for anyone else during that time

Edited 12/25/2016 15:51:58

What to do to get nomination here?