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Justinian You realise evolution has been scientifically proven and that some of the Bible stuff is absolute bullshit?

Pure autism dripping from this forum...

I think it is important not to attack people for their religion as long as it is not dangerous or extremely foolish.

Islam is violent

Would you class Islam as a religion that is "dangerous or extremely foolish"? Assuming the answer is yes, based on the fact that violence is quite dangerous, was that you openly endorsing attacking Muslims for their religion?

That's crossing the line of criticising Islam and Islamic texts, and attacking Muslims for their religion.

why would you endorse attacking people? that seems fairly savage- more savage than most qur'an entries, quite truthfully.

Apologies if I misinterpreted what you said, but it definitely seemed like you were endorsing attacking people because they happened to have a different imaginary friend than you do.


on topic, no. science does not require as much faith as religion. i'm so glad people who say this are in a minority in most western countries now. christians can't stop atheism, and soon enough muslims won't be able to stop it either.

If God was/is real, why did he/she/it create diseases? That's cruel, isn't it?
You should watch these videos if you want to hear a debate about God: https://youtu.be/-suvkwNYSQo and https://youtu.be/_Te862VIUBo.
Personally, I don't believe in God, but I don't disrespect people that do, because that's their own view. Imo, God is a coverup for the unknown, hence the phrase "God knows".

"If God was/is real, why did he/she/it create diseases? That's cruel, isn't it?"

1. Without diseases, the world would be havely overpopulated, and would cause many more wars and suffering.
2. Without suffering there would be no happiness.
3. It's a punishment for Adam and Eva eating the forbidden fruit.

But I'm an atheist so I don't really believe the third reason.

So ITT we have a Christian telling atheists the correct way not to believe in God. Good.

Without diseases, the world would be havely overpopulated, and would cause many more wars and suffering.

*heavily
If no one believed in religion, then wars (and terrorism) wouldn't even start and technology would be much more advanced. Why would God care how populated the world is? Why would God like people to suffer?

Without suffering there would be no happiness.

You can experience happiness without suffering. For example, people can tell jokes and you'd laugh at the funny ones. Also, people watch videos that they find amusing and don't not getting injured from watching the videos.

It's a punishment for Adam and Eva eating the forbidden fruit.

It doesn't make any sense to punish people who didn't eat the forbidden fruit. If someone decided to punish you for doing something you didn't do, you'd think the same thing: 'why are you punishing me?'.

You didn't answer if it is cruel to create diseases. The answer is, without any doubt is yes.

Well yes. It's terrible to see people trying to bash or get into conflict over something deeply personal and subjective like religion. If an atheist wanted to maintain their social circles and just general happiness, they'd know to put their respect for others and self respect on near equal pedestals, and wouldn't try to crack open a religious man analytically as though they have more layers than flesh and bone.

"If no one believed in religion, then wars (and terrorism) wouldn't even start and technology would be much more advanced."

Without religion there would still be war. Most wars have political reasons and religion is often just a tool to make people want to fight there wars.


"You can experience happiness without suffering. For example, people can tell jokes and you'd laugh at the funny ones. Also, people watch videos that they find amusing and don't not getting injured from watching the videos."

of course there would still be happiness but instead of a "mood" it would just be taken for granted. The only way to recognize happiness is through at least a little suffering. Suffering brings perspective. Also, with no suffering in the world, there would be no reason to care for each other. Indirectly suffering is what makes us "human".

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You know your perfect, happy population is doomed in the moment shit hits the fan.

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Emperor Justinian, no one intelligent believes we're on a magic spinning ball flying through space unharmed

"Making us "human", no matter what this term means here, is not worth the suffering."

Human as in "humane". human suffering makes a direct moral appeal for help, while there is no need to be humane without suffering.
Also, without suffering, there would be (almost) no drive to invent technology.

I can't answer everyone so I will direct my attention to Japanball the idiot. You are stupid and have no good proof an animal can turn into another animal or a human. Also what in the Bible do think is BS?

holy cow
1, we see evolution in our own lifespans in microbes and other wildlife with short lifespan and fast reproduction (it should be called a Law, not a Theory, at this rate)
2, we've quite a lot of "vestiges" as they're called (see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFxu7NEoKC8 for some)
3, it's quite logically sound - there are mutations and whichever adapts to the environment best.
4, here's how it would work (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allopatric_speciation)
5, we don't usually see it since it takes 100s of years in most lifeforms, if not longer, but it has been seen in some experiments and naturally - fruitfly colonies exposed to 2 different enivronments over a long enough time will be too genetically different from each other to breed
6, we've seen this in fossils as well

Here's also something to read.

https://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-bible-is-fiction-a-collection-of-evidence/#gs.bL7C7qI

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God is all knowing, meaning that he knows every thought and every aspect there is to know. He knows how the world will look like at any time in the future, past and in every way of his interference.

God is almighty, meaning that he can make the world very old, or make it look like it is very old, making a world with evolution or make it look like there is evolution. He can move back and forth and he can make any place move back and forth in time and can make or change the world in every way.

+1 Dutch

>your beliefs need to adhere to MY standards of verification goy

thanks for telling us shlomo

I am a Christian, yet I believe that the only proof for the existence of a creator lies within Christ's death and the testament of it, if you debate the grand scale fantastic aspects, you lose sight of the much easier to debate humanesc aspects.