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Big map of Europe: 1/29/2012 07:24:42


[中国阳朔]TexasJohn 
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Iron, as far as I know, the US doesn't have 50 countries. Just the one. I've been away for a while, but I don't think that much has changed in 2 years.

Big map of Europe: 1/29/2012 14:46:47


Ironheart
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texas that was,moros who said my logic means there are 50 countries in america and i disagreed with him

Big map of Europe: 1/29/2012 15:31:36


Moros 
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Well, the 50 states all have its own government, governor, and different laws and such.

Big map of Europe: 1/29/2012 17:37:23

RvW 
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Can someone please make a dead-horse-map and invite all you guys for a nice game (and in-game chat) on it...!? (link)


On-topic:
L0KI, it looks like you missed three parts of France; they're not in any bonus:

  • In the North-West, right below the bonus-square and bonus-star for Ile de France and Paris, there's three territories which still have a white border.

  • In the North-East, to the right of the Ile de France territories there's another three territories with white borders.

  • I

I'd like to ask about the colours of bonuses. It looks like you're using variations of the "national" ("mini-map") colour for the sub-bonuses, right? But in the mini-map, some bordering countries have similar colours (France-Italy, Italy-Slovenia and I expect, once you add them, France-Belgium, Estonia-Latvia, Latvia-Lithuania and Lithuania-Poland). I have absolutely no idea how much time and trouble it would be to change stuff around, but if I would give you a map of the European countries, each with a colour very distinct from its neighbour, would you be willing to use that? (Four "base" colours is enough, I was thinking primary colours plus the visually most distinct-looking secondary colour: red, green, blue, purple.)
I'm asking now, because it seems stupid to let you finish first and then suggest it; that would create even more work.

Also, some minor issues with the mini-map:

  • It seems like Luxembourg is missing. I'm not sure if that's intentional; while it is small, personally I wouldn't consider it a micronation.

  • You've named Lithuania "Lietuva".

  • Kaliningrad is outlined, but black; shouldn't it have the same colour as Russia?

Big map of Europe: 1/29/2012 17:38:53

RvW 
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Huh, what happened?? (I hate not being able to edit posts.)

The third point about France should've read:

  • In the South-East, around Monaco, there's five territories with white borders.
Big map of Europe: 1/29/2012 18:42:37


Moros 
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Okay, I'll stop pulling old cows out of the ditch...
And I think you should use more colors than four, even if it's not necessary. Here's an example:

On the left you see a map with Europe divided with the four primary colors. Although it works, there are some minor issues such as the almost-fourcountrypoint between Austria, Slovakia, Croatia and Hungary, and the colors lay not far apart. Especially for former Yugoslavia, because of the small countries there it is hard to see which country is which. On the left you see a map with gray added. Now the colors lay further apart, and they can easily be distinguished from each other, even when moving towards the edges of the color spectrum. I made Russia gray because I think it will have a lot of bonuses, so you can go all the way from black to white.

Big map of Europe: 1/29/2012 19:02:42


Guiguzi 
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more on the 50 states: each state has its own militia, tax system (states income, housing, consumption taxes), education systems (public and private, while federal money covers only about 20-30% of public school costs), etc.

in any case: 'state' means 'country' and the articles of confederation are more similar to the eu system than the current us constitutional system.

Big map of Europe: 1/30/2012 15:24:32


Срећко
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"It looks like you missed three parts of France; they're not in any bonus"
Yea, i was mistake in typing in Inscape so it couldn't recognized, i will fix it.

"It seems like Luxembourg is missing."
It is to small to show a single digit. I have tried, but it isn't possible for Luxembourg, Andora, San Marino and similar countries.

"You've named Lithuania "Lietuva""
Thx.

"Kaliningrad is outlined, but black; shouldn't it have the same colour as Russia?"
It will be yellow.

"I made Russia gray because I think it will have a lot of bonuses, so you can go all the way from black to white."
Thank you Moros. Russia will be a big problem because there a rare maps for only European part. Name will be changed in European Russia and value of national bonus will be 110 instead of 176.

There will be 4 types of countries:
Dwarf countries
Small -//-
Middle size -//-
and big countries.
About their values and math i will post here later.

Big map of Europe: 1/30/2012 15:52:49


Moros 
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On my images Azerbaijan, Armenia, Libya, Morocco and Tunisia are missing, but I guess you can figure those out yourself.

Big map of Europe: 1/30/2012 20:54:56

wigibob
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I think this map is really improving you could do with adding the islands of malta and gozo (and camino) south of spain perhaps putting them as part of spain or maybe in there own bonus

you have also missed out the shetland islands

and perhaps you could add svalbard

Big map of Europe: 1/31/2012 09:13:26


[中国阳朔]TexasJohn 
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Gui, each state does NOT have it's own militia. Each state, or at least most of them, have National Guard units, but to view those as state-run "militias" is a bit misleading, as they all fall under the control of the Commander in Chief, not the Governor of the state. And while each state certainly has it's "own" laws, none of these laws can violate standing federal laws. For example, the drinking age in Louisiana was 18 (as opposed to the federally mandated 21), until the government threatened to withold federal money for things such as highways.

Big map of Europe: 1/31/2012 11:14:53

Grzechooo 
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Could you move out this off-topic somewhere else? It's fucking annoying.

Big map of Europe: 1/31/2012 11:26:50


[中国阳朔]TexasJohn 
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Chill out, bro.

Big map of Europe: 1/31/2012 11:37:37


Perrin3088 
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Texas, the point is that the state laws can violate standing federal laws.. hence why federals have to threaten, instead of use direct judicial powers to prevent the state laws.

Big map of Europe: 1/31/2012 14:23:02

Canuck
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Ok, just played the AD. 1600 map..3 glaring spelling errors. Popal States, Tsardom, Meditorean ...could you please correct. Do you guys not spell check?!

Big map of Europe: 2/1/2012 15:08:30


Срећко
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"Ok, just played the AD. 1600 map..3 glaring spelling errors. Popal States, Tsardom, Meditorean ...could you please correct. Do you guys not spell check?!"

What are you talking about?!

Big map of Europe: 2/1/2012 16:13:08

RvW 
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He's talking about the map Europe AD 1600 (sorry, no idea how to link to it; no clue how to look up the map ID). That doesn't explain why he's posting here though; AD 1600 was made by Ottoman. It also doesn't explain what's wrong with "Tsardom", that seems to be the correct spelling ("Popal" should indeed be "Papal" though and there's quite a few typo's in, what should probably be, "Mediterranean").

@Canuck:
One of the first steps in creating a new game is selecting a map. In the overview of available maps, each one has a button that says "Preview Map". Click that. In the detailed overview which opens, there's a button which says "Send Feedback". That's usually the best way to contact the owner of a map.

Big map of Europe: 2/2/2012 16:17:54


Moros 
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Ah, I like how you drew the Netherlands. If you needed them, I could give you fitting names for the territories you have chosen, but that's up to you.
Four questions:
You made the Wadden Islands all a different territory, but the German ones you didn't even include. Perhaps you could draw them for Germany, but make them part of a territory next to them.

I think Friesland and North Holland should connect, and the northern territory of North Holland with Flevoland because they do so in real life. Although it might seem illogical, a yellow line to resemble the dike's can do the trick.

And the last one, on your small map, you made the base color for the Netherlands orange. I don't deny that is an appropriate color, but the pink for Central Netherlands and the grey for Friesland don't seem to be in that color range. I don't know if you are going to use my color scheme or not, but it does look weird as it is now.

I think the territory below the most southeastern territory of South Holland should connect to the southwestern most territory of South Holland, the one with the island.

Big map of Europe: 2/2/2012 16:25:42


Moros 
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Sorry for the double post, but I forgot one: why has suddenly the bonus value of the Netherlands dropped to 15? The population is still 16.669.112, and I thought you based the bonus values on that.

Big map of Europe: 2/2/2012 16:49:06


[中国阳朔]TexasJohn 
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Perrin, as far as I know, there are not very many State laws that violate Fed laws, although I am not fully informed on the matter. The only one that comes to mind is the weed issue, although I am sure there are more. The point being, if the Fed REALLY hates a state law (as opposed to merely being annoyed by it), they will take measures to stop it.

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