The thread is too old to post in. I was wondering, your sheet says:

Every player has to register an account to be used in the Clan League(clans can do it on players' behalf as well). This account can't be changed in subsequent seasons unless they ask the organizers specifically (We will only allow changes if it doesn't appear that they are doing this just to circumvent this rule).
A player has to be in the clan whenever a game is assigned. If you aren't in the clan it's a loss. Clan managers will need to substitute players who have left their clan(if games haven't been allocated) (Needs work)*
There will be two registration periods for CL10. The first window will be at the start of the season. The second window will be at the midway point of the season(2 months in). It will last for a period of 2 weeks and gives clans a chance to replace players who have left.
The substitution limit will be increased to 10 per clan. There are 18 slots in a season. Clans should be able to guarantee some sort of stability, or be penalized for it.
If a player(who is in P tournaments) transfers from clan X to Y in the mid-season window, they can only represent clan Y in (3-P) tournaments.
All alts used in CL must be declared publicly.

Why would alts need to be declared if they are not allowed? You are saying only 1 account can be used, and that account must be in the clan.

Suppose I have 2 accounts: Player1 and Player2 in two clans: ClanA and ClanB respectively

If I declare Player1 as my main, and it is in ClanA, why does it matter that I have a Player2 account? I am not allowed to use it ever in CL, unless I get permission from you to declare that my main.

IMO, I would have everyone declare alts, and allow them, with this caveat:
A player may only operate 1 account in a CL, and the account must be in the clan. Keep your rule about transferring the account to another clan. Also add that a player may use a different account in a subsequent season, but they are available for 3-N tournaments, with N being the number they played last season.

So if I declare Player1 and Player2 and I use Player1 in ClanA in CL10 for 2 formats...I would be allowed to use Player2 as my account in ClanB in CL11, but only 1 format.

IF you restrict someone to a single account and don't allow them to use another one ever, not only is there no reason to declare them, but you encourage people to circumvent the rules to compete for another clan. If you allow for a very limited flexibility, you encourage transparency.

Edited 9/27/2017 18:36:24

I am watching your youtube chat, and it sounds like your main point is you want people to compete for the clan they are MOST invested in, which is fair.

BUT, what happens when their clan merges with another and there is no room for them to compete? Your rules allow for them to swap accounts in those clans (so they are still using the same account, just in a new clan), without penalty...if not in the same season. But if someone was in those two accounts for years, you are not allowing them to simply use the other account in the 2nd clan.

I don't really understand this, because it doesn't keep anyone from being a free agent and playing in different clans every season. It only means they have to physically move their account.

About clan switching: it's no problem to switch a clan. Just switching back to the original clan won't be allowed for a certain time

and in the same season you are only allowed to play in 3 tournaments right? And included a cap for replacements as well if i remember correctly

Alts used in CL are to be declared.
Like if xenophon or pardon is playing via an alt, they have to declare that account is theirs.

And where does it say alts are not allowed?

It says you declare your main, and only play with your main. Thus, no other accounts will be used. Thus, no 'alts' in CL at all, you simply define what your main is for CL purposes

it says an account, i could use an alt that were played 200 games on and declare it as an cl acc. it would still clearly not be my main, so it would need to be declared who's alt it was(as i understand it)

Edited 9/27/2017 21:48:14

Alts are allowed to play, but if you play on an alt there is the caveat that you will be attached to that account for the next couple clan leagues.

no it very clearly states that

account can't be changed in subsequent seasons unless they ask the organizers specifically (We will only allow changes if it doesn't appear that they are doing this just to circumvent this rule).

Edited 9/27/2017 22:06:09

Why would alts need to be declared if they are not allowed? You are saying only 1 account can be used, and that account must be in the clan.

All alts used in CL must be declared publicly.

Njord's explanation above should clear it up for you. We're not asking you to declare all of your alts on WL. If you register an account in CL which is not the one you usually use, we ask that you declare it.

BUT, what happens when their clan merges with another and there is no room for them to compete? Your rules allow for them to swap accounts in those clans (so they are still using the same account, just in a new clan), without penalty...if not in the same season.

There is a penalty though. There are movement restrictions where if you play for Clan A and then play for Clan B, you cannot go back to play for Clan A for another 2 seasons.

Alts are allowed to play, but if you play on an alt there is the caveat that you will be attached to that account for the next couple clan leagues.

This is not true. The account you use in CL10 will be the only account you can ever use in all future seasons.

Ahh, I misunderstood.

Still, the point remains. Alts can play, it just means that they will be stuck to that account.

Another question remains - if the number of clans participating drops as much as it looks like it will, what would be the preferred format? Shrink A&B to keep the qualifiers in tact, or to make one division out of C.

maybe we should make a list of all alt accounts in warlight.

I'll start, this is a relatively unknown alt of mine :

Fizzer

keep it simple:

"A player may only operate 1 account in a CL, and the account must be in the clan."(ChrisCMU)

so, you can only play for one clan in the actual CL, and you can't switch to another clan in the middle of the running CL.
if you are not the main account, you have to tell, what your main is. (for the fairness)

for another CL you can of course switch.


I hope i could explain my thoughts with my limited english-knowledge.

OK, that sounds fair Motd, thanks for clearing that up!

About clan switching: it's no problem to switch a clan. Just switching back to the original clan won't be allowed for a certain time

Thoughts on a transfer window

Fire ChrisCUM, that will improve clan league.

Why is there discussion on the clan name change thread about Lynx and 101st being in the same division?

IMO, thr clan league rules should not prevent that. It should only be in the business of determining what players can play for a particular clan. Let the promo system run as normal and if that means a clan doesn't have enough eligable players, that is on them to resolve.

Why is there discussion on the clan name change thread about Lynx and 101st being in the same division?

'cause someone quoted Fizzer's statement about a clan's name being its identity and TBest (jokingly?) suggested applying it to the Outlaws/101st situation. Under the agreement reached between 101st and Outlaws, when either clan is mentioned in any thread (or chat) members of both clans are obligated to drop by and mention that they're not salty about how things turned out and that what happened was good for both of them. The Lynx/101st discussion was an offshoot of that but only pops up in a relatively small group of comments.

If you try to move a conversation from one thread to another (that's been dead for over a month), the terrorists (usually) win.

Edited 11/8/2017 22:34:24

this may really not be an improvement idea, rather revolutionary change and i really don't expect to implement it anything soon, but i wonder why clan league isn't really works as league of clans. So, (basing on name of the competition) i would expect that clans compete with each other(like recent One vs Outlaws "battle") and final standing is build from results of such games.

@ Chris

I would rather have this discussion about brother/sister clans in CL here as well.

From my perspective we do need to talk about this problem. Clans like f.ex. M'Hunters asked multiple time in the past, why they can't field a 2nd team, when other clans field a brother/sister clan as "2nd" team.

That's a point that needs to be addressed. Brother and sister clans were born, due to the idea of splitting the "elite" from the "trainees". Other clans include both in one clan and shouldn't have a disadvantage for that system. So if there is a system which indicates, that a clan isn't absolutely free from the mother clan, f.ex. because the best players go to the mother clan if they reach certain standards, than u do need to talk about restrictments.

That could mean to exclude one of the clans completely from CL and view both clans as 1 overall clan system. But that could also mean to just remove certain rights for one of those clans. F.ex. by voting templates, or the ability to play in the same division.

I do see that there need to be talks about that topic, before we face those "problems" for the voting process f.ex. also just to offer equality, which could mean that in the end it maybe in the interest of all players and clans to allow all clans to fill a 2nd team as well. Either due to a brother/sister clan system which splits the "elite" from the "trainees" or a system that includes "elite" and "trainees" in one clan.

If there are other clans playing in CL currently who aren't independant from other clans, would it make any difference to clans who field 2nd teams?

Edited 11/9/2017 05:08:05