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Clan League Improvement ideas: 9/27/2017 18:32:29


ChrisCMU 
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The thread is too old to post in. I was wondering, your sheet says:

Every player has to register an account to be used in the Clan League(clans can do it on players' behalf as well). This account can't be changed in subsequent seasons unless they ask the organizers specifically (We will only allow changes if it doesn't appear that they are doing this just to circumvent this rule).
A player has to be in the clan whenever a game is assigned. If you aren't in the clan it's a loss. Clan managers will need to substitute players who have left their clan(if games haven't been allocated) (Needs work)*
There will be two registration periods for CL10. The first window will be at the start of the season. The second window will be at the midway point of the season(2 months in). It will last for a period of 2 weeks and gives clans a chance to replace players who have left.
The substitution limit will be increased to 10 per clan. There are 18 slots in a season. Clans should be able to guarantee some sort of stability, or be penalized for it.
If a player(who is in P tournaments) transfers from clan X to Y in the mid-season window, they can only represent clan Y in (3-P) tournaments.
All alts used in CL must be declared publicly.


Why would alts need to be declared if they are not allowed? You are saying only 1 account can be used, and that account must be in the clan.

Suppose I have 2 accounts: Player1 and Player2 in two clans: ClanA and ClanB respectively

If I declare Player1 as my main, and it is in ClanA, why does it matter that I have a Player2 account? I am not allowed to use it ever in CL, unless I get permission from you to declare that my main.

IMO, I would have everyone declare alts, and allow them, with this caveat:
A player may only operate 1 account in a CL, and the account must be in the clan. Keep your rule about transferring the account to another clan. Also add that a player may use a different account in a subsequent season, but they are available for 3-N tournaments, with N being the number they played last season.

So if I declare Player1 and Player2 and I use Player1 in ClanA in CL10 for 2 formats...I would be allowed to use Player2 as my account in ClanB in CL11, but only 1 format.

IF you restrict someone to a single account and don't allow them to use another one ever, not only is there no reason to declare them, but you encourage people to circumvent the rules to compete for another clan. If you allow for a very limited flexibility, you encourage transparency.

Edited 9/27/2017 18:36:24
Clan League Improvement ideas: 9/27/2017 19:39:55


ChrisCMU 
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I am watching your youtube chat, and it sounds like your main point is you want people to compete for the clan they are MOST invested in, which is fair.

BUT, what happens when their clan merges with another and there is no room for them to compete? Your rules allow for them to swap accounts in those clans (so they are still using the same account, just in a new clan), without penalty...if not in the same season. But if someone was in those two accounts for years, you are not allowing them to simply use the other account in the 2nd clan.

I don't really understand this, because it doesn't keep anyone from being a free agent and playing in different clans every season. It only means they have to physically move their account.
Clan League Improvement ideas: 9/27/2017 19:48:41


master of desaster 
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About clan switching: it's no problem to switch a clan. Just switching back to the original clan won't be allowed for a certain time
Clan League Improvement ideas: 9/27/2017 20:08:46


wakanarai 
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and in the same season you are only allowed to play in 3 tournaments right? And included a cap for replacements as well if i remember correctly
Clan League Improvement ideas: 9/27/2017 20:22:03


Batman
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Alts used in CL are to be declared.
Like if xenophon or pardon is playing via an alt, they have to declare that account is theirs.

And where does it say alts are not allowed?
Clan League Improvement ideas: 9/27/2017 21:40:08


ChrisCMU 
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It says you declare your main, and only play with your main. Thus, no other accounts will be used. Thus, no 'alts' in CL at all, you simply define what your main is for CL purposes
Clan League Improvement ideas: 9/27/2017 21:44:43


Njord 
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it says an account, i could use an alt that were played 200 games on and declare it as an cl acc. it would still clearly not be my main, so it would need to be declared who's alt it was(as i understand it)

Edited 9/27/2017 21:48:14
Clan League Improvement ideas: 9/27/2017 21:51:40


Cowboy 
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Alts are allowed to play, but if you play on an alt there is the caveat that you will be attached to that account for the next couple clan leagues.
Clan League Improvement ideas: 9/27/2017 22:04:11


Njord 
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no it very clearly states that
account can't be changed in subsequent seasons unless they ask the organizers specifically (We will only allow changes if it doesn't appear that they are doing this just to circumvent this rule).


Edited 9/27/2017 22:06:09
Clan League Improvement ideas: 9/27/2017 22:05:39


Master of the Dead 
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Why would alts need to be declared if they are not allowed? You are saying only 1 account can be used, and that account must be in the clan.
All alts used in CL must be declared publicly.

Njord's explanation above should clear it up for you. We're not asking you to declare all of your alts on WL. If you register an account in CL which is not the one you usually use, we ask that you declare it.

BUT, what happens when their clan merges with another and there is no room for them to compete? Your rules allow for them to swap accounts in those clans (so they are still using the same account, just in a new clan), without penalty...if not in the same season.
There is a penalty though. There are movement restrictions where if you play for Clan A and then play for Clan B, you cannot go back to play for Clan A for another 2 seasons.

Alts are allowed to play, but if you play on an alt there is the caveat that you will be attached to that account for the next couple clan leagues.
This is not true. The account you use in CL10 will be the only account you can ever use in all future seasons.
Clan League Improvement ideas: 9/27/2017 22:41:44


Cowboy 
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Ahh, I misunderstood.

Still, the point remains. Alts can play, it just means that they will be stuck to that account.

Another question remains - if the number of clans participating drops as much as it looks like it will, what would be the preferred format? Shrink A&B to keep the qualifiers in tact, or to make one division out of C.
- downvoted post by Genghis
Clan League Improvement ideas: 9/27/2017 23:43:30


Igel
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keep it simple:

"A player may only operate 1 account in a CL, and the account must be in the clan."(ChrisCMU)

so, you can only play for one clan in the actual CL, and you can't switch to another clan in the middle of the running CL.
if you are not the main account, you have to tell, what your main is. (for the fairness)

for another CL you can of course switch.


I hope i could explain my thoughts with my limited english-knowledge.
Clan League Improvement ideas: 9/28/2017 03:41:39


ChrisCMU 
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OK, that sounds fair Motd, thanks for clearing that up!
Clan League Improvement ideas: 9/30/2017 01:20:39


Tito 
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About clan switching: it's no problem to switch a clan. Just switching back to the original clan won't be allowed for a certain time


Thoughts on a transfer window
- downvoted post by QueefBalls
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