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New Clan: [X]: 2/25/2012 23:49:22


Zebra Tango 4D 
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I can only welcome your initiative, Guilaume Le Batard :)

I confirm that Mian kindly taught me almost everything I know about this game (even beating him sometimes, which is always a delicious but exceptionnal moment :)

But it is true that players like Mian Warlight are very rare in Warlight. Few top players are willing to comment or share their game strategy, and very few are able to explain simply as Mian. Honestly it's the only one I know, and he taught me even when he was No. 1 Ladder.

I think Mian should be part of this team, as a teacher, if he has enough time to devote to this in his busy life, and if he agrees to have an X ( why X?, I personnaly would have name the team [InProgress] ?) next to his name.

Sorry if there is some mistakes in this post, and thanks to google translate !
New Clan: [X]: 2/26/2012 02:35:01


[中国阳朔]TexasJohn 
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No thanks, Gui. The group of guys I play with are pretty good (ak65, V, Chaos, etc), and I learn a lot from them, especially Chaos. Maybe you are a "better" player than them, but at least I can learn from them over beers, and have foosball breaks when I get bored of imagining strategy.
New Clan: [X]: 2/26/2012 04:58:29


Guiguzi 
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Grat, I agree, in a similar way. I've tried helping others. They weren't committed. It was a waste of time for everyone. Joining the clan tells me a player is committed and that they are more receptive (which tells me I wouldn't be wasting my time).

Raver, I plan on disappearing soon enough on my own. What good is the forum? (1) Offer an idea you hope Fizzer will pay attention to? He won't. If there are technical problems with the game, he'll help though. (2) Offer constructive ideas for other players to consider? Most people will attack your person, not your ideas. (3) Chum it up with others? That's about all the forum is good for. Just let me get enough [X] players and you won't hear from me. I played 1500 games before I wrote anything on the forum. From games 1 to 1500 I thought the forum was a joke, not worth my time. One day I thought I could offer ideas to help WL's game play. I tried fighting windmills like Don Quijote, to no avail. If you look back, not once did I attack another player first. Very soon I will return to my original way of thinking: no need to bother with the forum, it is a joke, a place for angry know-it-alls who block out others. The only way I'd join a 1v1 against you, Raver, is if you wanted to join [X]. You seem like a good player. Want to be great? Maybe I could help.

Z, myhandisonfire is also helping. If any other good/great player wants to help, the more the merrier. If you want to learn about games other than 1v1 medium earth, Z, feel free to join [X].

Tex, I don't offer any beverages.
New Clan: [X]: 2/26/2012 05:04:38


Guiguzi 
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Oh yeah, Z, the [X] is only for the learners/apprentices, so we can keep track of them.
New Clan: [X]: 2/26/2012 17:25:25


Mian 
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Most pleasured by your post, Z ;o)
New Clan: [X]: 2/26/2012 17:25:42


Mian 
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*pleased.
Well your got my point ^^
New Clan: [X]: 2/26/2012 22:18:37


Perrin3088 
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"(1) Offer an idea you hope Fizzer will pay attention to? He won't"

Gui, your idea's may be beneficial to the game, and may not be.. some of them change the dynamic of the game and might not be in Fizzer's interest to implement..
He has made many changes that were brought up in the forum... keep in mind again that he is a single person attempting to do practically everything this game requires by himself..

also, you may have been attacked previously, generally privately by others, but your continual posts addressing these facts just instigates the personal attacks...
I, personally, see no need to start a thread talking about what others are saying about me in -any- game that is played, be it beneficial or negative.. but you did..
New Clan: [X]: 2/27/2012 05:42:47


AquaHolic 
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I don't get why all the attacks regarding this clan.. I think this is a great idea. While I was a noob, i didn't know anything about strategy, and was losing constantly. However, now, i can proudly say i'm not too bad of a player. This development largely contributed by peers (my fellow warlight friends). Players like Charles the Great (Bumblebee), Waya, alex cho, Myriad (chump intepelation) and myhandisonfire have helped me tremendously. Waya and alex cho especially taught me how to play strategic 1v1. Not only did I acquire skills and strategies through them, they have also taught me warlight manners, as back then (as silly as this may sound) i booted whenever i got the chance. I think this clan's offers are very valuabe and if you personally do not want to join, please stop hurling insults at it.
New Clan: [X]: 2/27/2012 06:22:48


Guiguzi 
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Perrin, about Fizzer: Yes, I know. I'm simply pointing out the futility of offering suggestions. I'd guess for every 200 suggestions proposed on the forum, 1 is implemented. For every top 10 UserVoice idea, maybe 1 or 2 is implemented. Every day there is someone saying: 'New card idea' or something else. Based on my experience, it's like yelling into an empty cave. The only response you get is an echo (from other players on the forum). So why offer suggestions at all? Just let Fizzer work his magic and enjoy it for what it's worth.

About responding to attacks: I think it's funny. When I read that somebody is (a) attacking me instead of my idea, (b) bringing up a tangential possibility unrelated to my main point, (c) lacks the experience or knowledge to actually address something with any amount of credibility, or (d) speaks in a purely emotional manner, I usually laugh. If it were real life, I doubt people would say or do such things. I recently invited 5 players who appear to hate or dislike me on the forum to a 5 v 5 (I get 4 AIs as teammates) just for fun. In the game's public chat they are reasonably polite. Forum psychology is interesting. In my games, I might be one of the more friendly, polite players. But if somebody violates an unspoken rule (teammate attacks teammate, controlling multiple accounts for an advantage, refusal to vote to end when it is most warranted, etc.), the gloves come off. Take [X] for example. On the forum all he does is dog me. Yet in the games we played (before I had enough of him), we seemed to get along.

Now, certain news agencies's comment sections are monitored. If you speak nonsense on Le Monde, The Washington Post, Foreign Affairs, etc., your comment is removed. They have standards: constructive criticism, decent language, personal attacks can't go too far, etc. Here, there are no rules, causing many of the most intelligent players to be reluctant to add their ideas.

I recently looked at a 1v1 RR Ruthless made 1-3 years ago in denzyman's games (I have control over his account and a 1v1 tournament game suddenly appeared in his My Games). I read some of the chat in that tournament. Fizzer was one of the guys. Everyone was friendly, joking, offering ideas, having real exchanges. If the forum were like that, what a wonderful world it would be. If, however, one of the players randomly attacked another of the players in that chat, I'd expect there to be a response. To ask for no response assumes the attacker is a child and the responder has to assume the role of being a parent. I'd rather assume there is a semblance equality, Aristotelian in nature.
New Clan: [X]: 2/27/2012 14:43:50


[中国阳朔]TexasJohn 
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Aw, I thought you invited me to that game because we were friends! I will expect a new post from you as soon as it is over and you have analyzed out private chat.
New Clan: [X]: 2/27/2012 15:49:22


Ace Windu 
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How many people have joined the clan so far?
New Clan: [X]: 2/27/2012 16:00:41


Guiguzi 
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New Clan: [X]: 2/27/2012 16:01:28


Guiguzi 
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9+
New Clan: [X]: 2/27/2012 16:04:22


Ace Windu 
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:O A [REGL] joined!
New Clan: [X]: 2/27/2012 17:39:21

[X]Gratitude
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Certainly more than 9...I wasn't even invited to that tournament! Maybe we can have discussions about the games they play to make suggestions after they're finished, Gui?
New Clan: [X]: 2/27/2012 17:56:37


Jimi Hendrix
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grat, you said you prefer real-time. those guys arent really at your level in 1v1s. i wouldn't want to overwhelm some of them, unless you want to help them.
New Clan: [X]: 2/27/2012 21:00:42


raverbaby72
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Nothing against others offering to help but any observant noob who loses and wants to improve will study the history and learn from it. All the help you ever need is already there if you seek it out.
New Clan: [X]: 2/28/2012 05:32:57


[中国阳朔]TexasJohn 
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Gui, did you create the game to prove a point? Or did you realize that you couldn't win and lord it over us a "superior" and "most honorable" player? Because it seems the game has been deleted.
New Clan: [X]: 2/28/2012 05:54:56

[X]Gratitude
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Oh yeah, I don't mind that I wasn't invited, just stating it as evidence to the fact that there's more than just nine of us.
@raverbaby: the powers of observation can only take us so far on our own...sometimes it takes a keen eye from a more skilled player to point out subtleties that a lower level player wouldn't notice...and to make suitable tips in relation to that. Just my thoughts on it, anyway.
@TexasJohn: Is this really worth your time and energy to pursue? What does it matter to you? Something to consider anyway.
New Clan: [X]: 2/28/2012 06:02:10


Guiguzi 
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Tex, you are four clicks away from knowing the answer:

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