I disagree about him harming WM. Yes, they were harmed by his cheating. But I think in the long run, he has done them more good than bad. I am not sure [WM] would even exist right now without him. He kinda took over as leader when Anonymous was somewhat inactive and when it looked as if the [WM] clan might die. Now, the clan is in a bad situation, but I think it is better than before he joined.

When the original topic appeared, I did have a short in-game chat about it with Fizzer, just asking his opinion with link to some strong accusations in the topic

Math Wolf, why reference talking to Fizzer and asking his opinion and then nor providing his responses? Seems rather pointless to bring it up but not provide any actual information

I guess noone heard of his positive tests for PEDs.

Arun I don't know what your problem with Gnuffone is, but ever since he retired I must have seen you bash him on the forum multiple times. Is it because you're jealous of the number of his achievements and the fact that you have none? What I do know however, was that you too, were cheating by making 1 min boot games and booting people to farm wins not very long ago. Do you deserve to be bashed for that? Yes. Did you get bashed for that? No. Stop being so pathetic.

Sure, he cheated. Shame on him for that. But in spite of all the arrogance you guys all accuse him of, he has humbly come out and apologised. Will banning him do anything more but revenge? No. Does he deserve a second chance? Thats up to you. I can understand why the GG playesr would be angry and I sympathise with them, but now he has done wrong, he has apologised. This is just a game after all.

X

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I like how Gnuffone makes an apology thread, and it results in people wanting him banned XD. I'm not saying that banning him is wrong, I just find this whole thing ironic

Jehovah, I gamed the system to gain points quickly to unlock every new feature. I did not gain any any achievements for it. Letting him get away with it is ridiculous. Referring back to my previous metaphor; if a criminal says they repent, do they walk free?

1) currently i don't have internet from monday to friday, but occasionally i get it when i am at freind's house. IF i come back to my house during weekend, ofc i have internet; if i don't come back i can't have it.
2) Dark Vengeance or whatever is his name now is not a my account at 100%. Another player is using that, and in realtime ladder i use it only for 4 games (sze hedja + other 2).
3) If is the problem is my stats, i can hide it, it's not a problem for me.
4) TWM mentioned i think was referring before you write in the bye thread all 200 message.
(if is not in this way, pls TWM message me with what you were reffering, just curios)

This guy admitted what he did and walked away.....

http://hotair.com/archives/2014/03/31/rich-man-who-pled-guilty-to-raping-his-young-daughter-gets-probation-because-he-wouldnt-fare-well-in-prison/

Arun - stop acting like a highschool bully. You are being ridiculous comparing an internet game cheater to a rapist, or a serial murderer. This whole forum's exactly as one journalist wrote the other day - nothing more than facebook for sociopaths. You are only proving him right.. It's just a game. Relax, get over it and mind your own shit instead of whining about whatever he did that at no point concerned neither you nor your clan.

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Arun - i'm not saying your behaviour is anywhere near to his, cause it isn't. But for the record - it doesn't matter if you gained "an achievement" or not. You gained SOMETHING by shady behaviour. Sorry but booting to win deserves mass-blacklist at least. Especially if you made short-boottime games to purposedly pull it off.

JSA - WM is doing fine. We are strong, and we are active. There was a recession about a year ago, but it's survival had not much to do with Gnu. There were few involved players, similar to current situation, where I am the one organizing most things related to WM since Red is no longer active. And some players retired from WL. Gnu's done a lot for WM, but at the same time he blocked the clan from aquiring new players for a long time, which was one of the reasons it shrunk big time. (most people who wanted to join were not good enough in gnu's eyes - most of the time we agreed with gnu, but there were a few players which did show potential, and looking back I do regret we did not let those in)

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Do I dislike Gnuffone for his having cheated? No. When I realized he had cheated I was happy: it was the crystallization of Gnuffonian hubris I had grown tired of -- and overwhelming proof of what my intuition hinted at. Now that he has apologized, I like him more, as his Greek tragedy has come full circle: hero rises on talent, hubris leads to conflict, tragic flaw leads to downfall, crestfallen hero seeks redemption.

gui, u r so smart + clever

This guy admitted what he did and walked away.....

hotair.com/archives/2014/03/31/rich-man-who-pled-guilty-to-raping-his-young-daughter-gets-probation-because-he-wouldnt-fare-well-in-prison/

That's what the radical feminists want you to believe. If he raped his son he wouldn't even have been arrested by our feminazi police force and justice system.

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So Emily finally convinced you, x?

No, Beren! You walked right into his trap! >.<

well, if that wasn't the most vulgar thing I've seen on the Internet.... oh my precious eyes.

That was a bit over the top, even for x.

wow, what mulva says is too much for a student to bear.....

inb4 Arun demanding he be warned

That was a bit over the top, even for x.

i agree. i was laughing guiltily to myself as i wrote that. and i still am now hahaha

it was quite rightfully deleted

now it is i who am want say sorry