But having had a large empire is no guarantee for any current military advantage. Even the Polish and Lithuanians had a large empire, and so did the Hungarians, Austrians, Bulgarians and Danish.

This thread is now mostly harmless.

At least I've got my towel with me.

Ironheart are you saying that it was a usually a fair fight?
"Whatever happens, we have got the Maxim gun, and they have not"
Springs to mind.

Am not saying it was a fair fight i was just saying it was not as easy as min puts t after all it was not just a slaughter.

For the Italians it wasn`t easy, but for most Europian country`s, it wasn`t that hard. Only North-Africa had guns, south- (middle-?) Africa didn`t

actually that is wrong too min it was tough for the italians.But all part of Africa had guns even the middle and south as tribes traded guns with themselves and so did european nations guns were traded and spread across easily.

Also, they could always steal the guns from european corpses. Just common sence, Although they might not have been good at using them.

Another reason most countries easily took Africa was because it was always in-fighting and never had anything close to an organized military. They ruled by a tribal system, not a very good system by military standards

i disgaree the tribal system worked fine it made organizing loyalties allegiance and ties easier people.Even in mordern African countries and other world countries a tribe on you side can be usefull and effective.Arab spring for example.

You have a good point Iron, but not when the invading armies just often bribe the stronger tribes to "sit it out" or actually help the invaders in the take over.

U.S. and the Native Americans, or the African slave trade are both prime examples of how the tribal system is easily manipulated. And conquered

There is no command structure through the whole system that has checks and balances for wrong-doing and leads to the strong just doing what is best for them.

Why cant you stick to TV series and trivial things? You can talk about that all day long, without my intervention. But when you try to go into politics and history, you aggravate me with the nonsense you type.

@Regl to bad: Associating a tribal structure with easy to be conquered is the worst mistake you can make. You make a wrong point, pick to random examples out of history and think you proved it.
You exclude a whole era of human history. Google migration period to see how your simple tribes can conquer civilizations.
And if that is not enough for you, look up the most successful conquerers in mankind. The mongols had a tribal structure , conquering half of the world, running over the biggest empires, the richest sultanates, defeating the largest armies. They conquered everything from china to poland and had their not been incredibly lucky events for japan and europe, they would have conquered these regions too. All with your "inferior" tribal structure.

Guys, why is that you dont have enough selfrespect to actually read deep into a topic that you argue about online?

somyhandsonfire, I am having a friendly discussion with others and you decide to pop up and be a dik for no reason. For some reason you spout off to try and flaunt a superior intellect while trying to belittle others in that they have not done their homework. You are just too intelligent for me myhandsonfire. Except for one small hole in your so highly intelligent arguement about the Monguls you azzwipe. The first thing genghis Khan did while building his mighty army that controlled such a large territory was to do away with all social and tribal structure. Yup, that's right. He created a highly militarized and ordered army you douch.

@to bad How can you tell he is being a dik he just said his opinions and said you knew wrong and you should learn more on tribal system your the one who started insulting.
The tribal system in the slave trade was not manipulated they were selling people of other tribes if they were nations they will have sold citizens of other nations like the Romans did.The us and the native american had no manipulation it was the us vs all the american tribes they had no tribes helping them eradicate their own people the tribe system allowed them to put up more of a stand with tribes ganging together mostly because of the tribal system if there were none they would have been easier pickings.You also say they bribed stronger tribes to sit it out well surprise surprise you can bribe nations to sit out wars.You seem to say the tribal system had no military or command structure and you argue it had no checks or balances and leading to the strong doing what they want now that is so wrong and exaggerated the cultural,ethnic and the tribal unity made them a fighting machine that could be joined with otters within the same tribe to fight against aggressors yes there would be corruption,there is corruption in every government type some low some high but the tribal structure was well worked that the strong could be taken down easily.also if they did not have a military system how did they fight wars or invade or even have an army.now let me end if this one of the first of possible first organised community was a tribal system and it created city states that had allegiance to founding one united under a tribe.So you could say a tribal system was na bit like a united nations for communities back then.

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Well to bad was wrong on every level and his insultive and his acting like the douc h

People, could we please keep this civilised? Some of these recent posts feel a lot like personal attacks and there's even a couple insults in there.