And Scots should be let to their own choices they owe no favours to the English, Welsh or northern Irish.

Ska you miss the point totally. Where is the benefit that will save the northerners with lost business from folding over? Where is that same benefit for me? It's the same question.

And Scots should be let to their own choices they owe no favours to the English, Welsh or northern Irish.

Yet we WILL bail them out if they need it. You want us to SHARE the pound with them.

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They will only 'fold over' if the Westminster government' tries to score political points as you are doing.

If they are human and consider their constituents as you should consider other human beings there will be no problem independence or no.

Edited 9/9/2014 22:09:34

Until Scotland folds. Then we all get fucked. The wouldn't be at risk of folding if Scots vote No.

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Why do you feel like you deserve any benefit at all, or those northerners do? It's the Scots' choice, they have the right to leave if they want to, and by your own logic of only thinking for your self-interest, they are no more malicious than you are.

Oh and skipping over Atlee now are we?

Grow up.

I need to sleep now, and as your whole arguements boil down to 'waa waa waa Y DON'T SCOTLAND help me ... Selfish Bastards' I don't see the point in continuing this discussion with you.

Moros they have the right to vote of course. Why would they want to vote yes?? They can devolve. They don't need a country to be Scottish. They only add risk by voting yes. Deserving and extra benefit is something I never said. It was an analogy of sorts.

Ska since you consistently couldn't answer me straightly instead attacking my intent to keep myself afloat (aka human instinct), I see no reason for you to continue the discussion either.

Edited 9/9/2014 22:13:21

Not to them. IT IS THEIR COUNTRY

IS THAT CLEAR?

Their country their choice.

There is nothing to say Scotland will need a bail out.

As you already said you don't even know that for every year Scotland has been in the Union it has contributed far more money than it took out. Why on Earth would that change now?

No matter how much they devolve, it will always be Westminster giving them pocket money instead of them spending their own oil pounds into their own country. Voting yes will get them a sandbox and many opportunities. Would you rather stay in the same area all your life because planes might crash?

Edited 9/9/2014 22:15:28

Because this has clearly been a massive shakeup. If Westminster continues unchanged, the Scots will only have more will to separate. They can separate. I don't give a shit about the UK as a whole. But why do they have to do it violently?! Let them devolve and separate peacefully! Salmond seems to want a rebellion.

Also, another issue. No matter what the result, nearly half the country will be in a country they don't want to be in. How can that be addressed?

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Arun answer you straight? The only 'facts' you know about this discussion is that you read in the Mail that it will be bad for Wales.

If you knew anything about Scots- English history, or economics you wouldn't be spouting your ignorance for anyone with a modicum of historical knowledge to laugh at :D

Edited 9/9/2014 22:17:12

Can we please stop insulting each other?

And the polarisation is indeed an issue, but every four years the USA elects a government half the country isn't happy with either, but nobody bats an eye. Many countries work like that, sadly.

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Ska don't read the mail, have no idea about Wales' effect exclusively. It will effect every UK tax payer as far as I can see. If all you can do is insult me who is right in this discussion?

Moros, yes I just wondered. With such a big issue though it may be slightly different though?

Edited 9/9/2014 22:19:08

Meh, if the UK starts acting sane again and both countries join Schengen it won't be all too different. Except that Scots will pay less tax and British more.

Edited 9/9/2014 22:20:45

Lol I mean in Scotland though. 49% (or something close) of scots will be in the wrong country.

Edited 9/9/2014 22:20:46

Arun is the reason I want Scotland to stay in the U.K ... otherwise when they go we lose 40odd sensible M.P's and are left with a higher proportion of Aruns :(

Many countries work like that, sadly.

Pff, Dutch people

Pff, Dutch people

Yay representative coalition government!

Ska, bullshit. Am I the only person who wants to stay financially secure?!

Going now will reply tomorrow assuming you have an answer.