If Scotland becomes independent, I highly doubt Westminster will keep this stance of playing hardball over the pound.

Why would Westminster want to not let Scotland use the pound? Their second largest export market would be Scotland. Not to mention Salmond has already said if Westminister wants to ignore economic reasons of letting Scotland use the pound and be stubborn asses, then he will play hardball and say that if the UK doesn't want to share the pound then Scotland won't share in the debt.

Mablung, for the same reasons we won't join the euro.

I think OMRLP is swallowing the propaganda Mablung. The U.K won't hurt it's economy during one of it's biggest ever economic crises and slowest of almost all the Eurozone's growth. Alongside huge youth unemployment and stagnant wages.

Politics is a popularity contest after all and destroying even more of your economy doesn't win votes.

And there is evidence to support that the Chancellor is spouting nothing more than threats. Sources from within his own government.

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And the reasons are different anyway.

In the Euro Brussels controls everything for a big big diverse area.

In a Sterling economic zone the Bank of England would control everything from an English point of view. It would set pro-English rates and the Scots would have to just get along, adapt to that they would have no say in the rates at all.

As a Englishman I am not really concerned. It would effect everyone in the UK but not that much. But i would prefer them to stay part of the union.

A currency union would require both the governments agree the UK and Scotland to go down a similar economic path. If one government decides to decrease taxes and increase spending whilst the other decides to increase taxes and decrease spending, then that would create too many inconstancies as 1 country would gather up big debts. In a currency union, the UK might have to bail out an independent Scotland IF it got into trouble, but Scotland wouldn't have the funds to bail out the UK. We (as in the rest of the UK) would end up with the worse end of the deal.

Exactly. It makes little sense for us to allow a currency zone. If Scotland want the UK's currency they can remain part of the UK! Salmond has no answer to this currency issue. He doesn't want the Euro and if we deny a union he said he may turn Scotland into one of those crappy countries using the USD (except they will use the pound)!

And what do you say Arun to those of us living in Cumbria, Lancashire, Teeside, Northumberland or Yorkshire?

Punishing ordinary people be they Scottish or English is ... well it's just mean and cold hearted especially if it's only so you can 'prove' that England is > Scotland :(

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Why can not Scottish and English live in the same place?
And I think their only problem it financial

That looks better.

Flag of England??

OMRLP you denigrate what the Scottish did for the United Kingdom :(

Elroi you again show your ignorance, it is merely a version of the Jack minus the Cross of Saint Andrew

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No, this is the flag of England.


I posted a redesign of the UK's flag so Scotland was removed but Wales was included. It combines the flags of England, Wales and the old flag of Ireland (used to represent Northern Ireland because it doesn't have it's own flag).

Flag of Wales


Old flag of all Ireland (used to represent Northern Ireland)

I know more Jewish history, I have not studied in depth the history of other nations.
But I think it's England, because of the cross sense it symbolizes the English Crown.
Diagonal and cross the Scottish crown
Well, the flag of Wales does not appear on the flag

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"it is merely a version of the Jack minus the Cross of Saint Andrew "

I posted a redesign of the UK's flag so Scotland was removed but Wales was included. It combines the flags of England, Wales and the old flag of Ireland (used to represent Northern Ireland because it doesn't have it's own flag).

So yeah ... what I said lol

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^yes, but I started typing before you posted that

Edit: correcting typo

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:)

unishing ordinary people be they Scottish or English is ... well it's just mean and cold hearted especially if it's only so you can 'prove' that England is > Scotland :(

Nothing to do with it. Scotland votes to separate, it is alone. We should no longer be responsible for them. They lose the negative, they lose the positive. The UK (not England :) ) has no responsibility for the welfare of another nation. Unless it benefits us, why should we strain to support another country?

Since when was Cumbria, Lancashire, Northumberland, Teeside and Yorkshire another country?

Or perhaps you agree that north of Watford they are all foreign savages?

Ska2D2, given Ⓖ. Ⓐrun is Welsh, I doubt he thinks that everyone out of south-east England is a savage, but I can't speak for him, so you'll have to wait for him to respond.

Cumbria, Lancashire, Teeside and Yorkshire and part of England, so would remain part of the UK if Scotland voted to leave. Therefore the UK would be responsible for the people there. However, those in Scotland might not be part of the UK in the future. If they become their own country, then the people in Scotland will no longer be the responsibility of the UK government.