I'm not biased at all, i put my clan 4th and it doesn't even include our new recruits Maniek and Kantos (who would beat any Warlighter :p) Arun puting warlighters 2nd lol, is more biased saying they will beat Masters and VIW? I don't want to cause arguments here because I don't want to take the fun away and it's pointless talking about it because no one will ever agree.

Exactly Alex. Pulsey is trying to stir us up I think...

Maybe I'm slightly biased but we'll just have to see. We are doing well so far (though there is a long way to go).

GG will absolutely smash this league.

The race for second (I think two go up, right?) could be very interesting indeed!

GG should by rights win hands down. We hope to give them a hard time though.

Thanks for the league table, Linlin. This is a very exciting tourney. I hope we play more leagues, because I have some BRs eager to participate, despite of our struggling for the last place.

1.) GG
No doubt about that (though the 2v2 teams I am unsure about, but I still think they will get enough points to secure a victory.

2.) Master?
I'm still unsure about this...they have really good 1v1 abilities, however in teamplayer games there are several better teams there.

3.) {101st}|[V.I.W]
I'm really unsure about this one, I think all in all we both have the same skilled players competing and in terms of teamplay it is evenly matched as well. Will be interesting to see.

4.) {101st}|[V.I.W]

5.) {warlighters}
Yes, yes they have gotten better, but 2nd place is definitely a stretch. I really don't see most of the players being up to standards against the previous competitors listed above, but we'll see.

6.) Dragon
I really am not familiar with this clan much except for the players also in [V.I.W], but from I gather in the open games they only play one singular map every time I as them. I think hey are good players, but they are out of their element. They will have enough skill to overcome the clans listed below, but I don't see them scraping a place higher than 6th.

7.) [M.C.]
I am giving only to MC because of their current performance. It's not anywhere near close to decide, but I think It will be MC beating BR, due to the players participating in both clans and BR's unfortunate poor performance so far. However MC hasn't been active at all late, and that may result in a few Inactives there.

8.) BR
Just because of heir performance so far. Now I don't know if in 1v1 they are playing all the good players first (hence their win/loss statistics) or if their performance is like that. However if they do not start winning games now, that will put them in last for sure. Team games I'm not really thinking will help them, considering their place in the 2v2 and 3v3 last clan league.

As usual, feel free to comment about this.

Why do Warlighters have points subtracted for no shows?

Well, if Thor can't win games then you can't exactly get those remaining points.

Honestly it's up to Pushover/JSA to decide how no shows are going to work - My guess would be they'd be marked as 0-7 automatically, but ultimately it's up to them.

Anyway, my personal rankings...

~ High Tier ~

1) GG
GG has the best chances of winning this, to be honest. I haven't played them, but their solos and teams are pretty solid.

2) Master
Despite having a slow start, I have a feeling that the Masters will pick up and give GG a run for their money. I haven't played Master/Master Race, though TWM/Miyagi are good players. Unlike GG, though, they have only 4 players - and thus they may be overworked on games.

~ Mid Tier ~

3) V.I.W.
I've played with some members of V.I.W. before, but I'm not sure if the members I played are the members in the league. V.I.W's teams seem to have experience with both templates and each other, putting them on top.

4) Dragon
"What? Everyone else put them 5th/6th!" While that is true, the clan seems to have a lot of experience working with each other's playstyles. Their problem is they'll have to adjust to ME/EA&O/Europe.

5) 101st
I had a hard time deciding between 101st and Dragon. While Dragon has to get used to the maps, 101st has to get used to each other's playstyle. I don't think our 2v2 or 3v3 teams have much experience in that regard. (Weirdly, the non-Lynx 1v1 players have positive scores right now, while the Lynx ones are negative.) (Good luck with Eririn, Apollo!)

6) Warlighters
While they're on the bottom of the Mid Tier, that doesn't mean they're that much behind. Any of the teams in Mid Tier could switch around. With Thor not showing up (docking them 7 points), they'll be hard pressed to make it up.

~ Low Tier ~

7) BR
I haven't played with the BR members. They seem like a wild-card to me. Also, unlike MC, they have more players, decreasing the load on any particular player.

8) MC
Only because I doubt they can make up for the 14 points they've been docked from two no-shows in the 1v1 section. Though, with 2 of the 4 players playing in all categories, they may be overworked. :/

Kerosea didn't I take Thor's place? Checking tournaments now...

Aghhh crap you're right. Hopefully we can come within 3-5 points or so of other clans for a private victory :)

You took bcatfish's place, not Thor's :/

Yeah, I'm amending my post....did not see that MC already had two strikes against itself ..

BR will beat them due to activity....MC is a dead clan IMO.

I agree totally with Kerosea, it's all to play for though. I admit that is true the 101st, we aren't the best at 2v2 and 3v3 communication also. But me and Kero could get the wins in that :). Unreality and Kero have done the best (they also could be in Lynx, but Kero doesn't want to and Unreality is not good enough yet :)but I hope we will do well, and hope all the 101sters and Lynxers will have fun also. As well as other clans

Unreality is not good enough yet

Surely he is better than some of Lynx (he has done better than you in the ladder anyways). I'm just interested to see why you think he isn't good enough. Granted I'm not a great player and beat him a couple of times but from what else I've seen of him, he seems like a very strong player.

That's what we thought, we did the recruitment games, even though he didn't meet all requirments. He didn't do well but he is training and will be a Lynx I'm sure in the Future.

(From Awesomeguy, referring to BR) Just because of heir performance so far. Now I don't know if in 1v1 they are playing all the good players first (hence their win/loss statistics) or if their performance is like that.

Furacao -> Lost to Eririn (101st) and Falcoun (MC)
Timborium -> Lost to Mordred (MC)
vontheevil -> Lost to Legacy (Dragon)
GSS -> Lost to Unreality (101st) and General Arun (Warlighter)

Honestly, this is a messy mix of losses. I have no clue how Falcoun is, but Furacao played decently against me. Mordred is ~1450 on ladder, Legacy is ~1250 right now. GSS, losing to Unreality (Good player) and General Arun (3-0 with wins vs. Gror/Unreality)... well he could be good.

(That makes it twice that Arun's beaten Unreality.)

By the way, since the last ranking GG has picked up 2 wins on Master, making my "Master will challenge GG's top position" less likely :(

Edited 9/1/2013 08:00:05

he could be good (twice he has beaten Unreality

Too be blunt, shit happens. At the moment I am quite a poor player (maybe better than the average auto game player though). Shocks do happen - its just another one to be 2-0 against Unreality. All other evidence points to him being a lot better (shhh, don't tell him that though!).

I am overworked at the moment between soccer school and this so i havent been playing very well haha but i think we can still grab second and if not we drop to third anyways for next season we will have more then 4 players and will be much better

@Arun: To be honest (and a bit blunt), I think you're average except you become some sort of "Super Arun" when in a clan war/league.

Between the 101st/Warlighters clan war and your current successes in the clan league, I can't think of any other explanation :P

Haha Super Arun I like that. He obviously is very keen and well motivated to do well for his clan. Perhaps Unreality can't play well against Aruns stratagie.

I am thinking these

GG-Powerful
Master-improving from a high baseline of skill
Dragon- Recently has come from hibernation and become a lot better(might even take 2nd?)
VIW-Generally good but have a lot of members(are CS only doing league? if so i would put them to 3rd)
101st-Have some good players
warlighters-decent but won't be much competition
BR-not very skilled but might upset
MC-Dead clan.