Torture is torture. What we should truly be worried about is the reasons why torture is being used.

At least the US Americans agree again on how injust the worlds perception is towards the United States.
Nothing new here.
The rest of the world, just a bunch of spineless, lazy, uncreative anti americans jealous of the great achievements of the USA.

That perception is so absurd, that it could have been written by Kafka.

The US System is so sophisticated in making you sheeple, that you have almost no chance of escaping it unless you would, under great effort, be willing do so. By overcoming that same laziness you claim to see in others and trying to get yourself true information outside your propaganda industry.

This system resembles a train, that runs on one track straight into the abyss. That train is controled by a minority of 1% which live luxuriously in 40% of the train. The next 9% have accomodated themselves in 80% of it. What is left of the train is crowded by the people that like to call themselves americans. They fight over the standing places, black against white against hispanic against republican against democrat against pro this anti that. This servant population works and works hard to feed them and their family, to just get along, which gets harder and harder by every mile the train runs. They are given the illusion that they might one day join the others in the more luxurious parts of the train if they just work hard enough. Now 10% percent of people on the train have been become useless to the train society and are kept in shackles inside the train.
While the train is running the people in back wagons of the train are constantly bombarded with propaganda. They are being told how big and beautiful their train is. How other people have to walk, or ride in bad trains, or in trains that run only half as fast. So they are all honoured to ride biggest and bestest train of the world. They are told that through every place that the train runs, they are dropping care packages to the local populaces, while in reality the 1% exploits those places and its populations, to fuel the train with the much needed coal to run on.
Every 4 miles the train runs, the people in the back of the train can switch out the train operator. For this, the train society has created two parties. The one party is pushing the train to its limits, while the other says lets drive only half as fast as we could. The course of the train can not be changed, since its running on one track.
Our train people occasionally peek out of the train. They scratch small peekholes in the shadowed windows and what they see confuses them. It doesnt add up to everything they got constantly told on the train and they somehow feel that something isnt right, even though they cant make out for sure what it is. Some are embarressed, some are scared, but eventually they all return back in the craddle of the train community, even though they feel less and less convinced when they cheer the chant on the greatness of their train.
Confused, dazzled and scared our trainpopulation will eventually reach the abyss. If they can halt the train before they do, is uncertain. But if they happen to fall down that crack, they will do it while still chanting the greatness of their train.

All trains fall off their tracks.

Never on Belarusian rails.

@Myhand


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Your train model is very not-to-scale anyway ; are you saying 10% inhabit 120% of the train???
Are you saying one person controls the entire train?
Are you saying all the other trains are so much better?
Are you saying our train's the worst?
Are you saying everybody's a racist/politically-heated asshole?
Are you somekind of communistic propaganda-writer?
TBH : Working at a counter at Taco Bell getting to see rich families eat is better than gathering wheat for the Motherland.

Edited 1/11/2015 05:41:35

Hah, I like how all the memes here are politically orientated here. But American propoganda IS real. No country is without propoganda, except maybe well-off and powerless countries, like Iceland. Or in the extremely poor and powerless countries, like Sierra Leone or Liberia.

Edited 1/11/2015 05:39:37

I will admit that you can see that there is some propaganda in the media ; it's obvious more than half of the networks are usually in Obama's favor or are TEA Party Republican-style. Satirical news is the only crap you can really deal with that isn't force-feeding you lies and fibs. Maybe I should try to find out who has a rifle in my complex, and then maybe we can rally a local militia. That'd be cool.

It's not internal, which medium supports which party, it's simply supporting that everything the US does is right and for noble reason. There are some examples of brainwasheds here.

And satirical news, although not propaganda, is very biased.

Don't let the police get in your way.

Edited 1/11/2015 05:56:13

I'll take biased over propaganda ; you're going to always get a bias. Besides, it takes real events and just novelizes them. Rarely do I see it bend the actual truth ( though they don't often do so, because they distort what people say ).

Well, at the end of the day, propaganda is simply a bias mixed in with why you should believe this bias/psychological elements to make you believe the bias.

Agreed!
Civilized conversation on the internet!

http://youtu.be/3GwjfUFyY6M?t=24s

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Tsh...this reminds me of a long play series that I used to watch. I'll modify a quote.

Ah, I see this comes from the Al-Qaeda school of Creative Writing

If you ask so nicely Ghengis, I am always willing to educate you.
And of course correct the mistake you pointed out. I meant 9% control another 40% of the train.
But now to your questions:

Since I know as an average american you most likely have an allergic reaction to reading, I will try not to link too much raw data.

Are you saying one person controls the entire train?

No, I am saying 1% of the people control 40% of the train.

Your nice little vid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM

Are you saying all the other trains are so much better?

Depends. If you are part of the 1% maybe not. If you are part of the 80% majority though, yes, there are much better trains for you. In fact, people in almost all other developed country trains, travel much better. Even a diabolical evil communist country like Cuba, under US embargo for almost 50 years, which includes medicine, has better child and infant mortality rates than the USA.

Little link, that you can ignore, since it involves reading:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/04/15/map-how-35-countries-compare-on-child-poverty-the-u-s-is-ranked-34th/

Are you saying our train's the worst?

No, I am not saying your train is the worst. You train started of from a high level. It was a modern train in the 60s for the people that rode it, but since then the people have been pushed more and more in the back wagons, to make room for the 1%. But there is a good chance that trains which got a lot of "help" by your train, like Guatemala, El Salvador, Iraq, Afghanistan, Lybia etc. are the worst. And the trains that got "help" by the European countries for centuries of course, like the African trains. If you want to ride a good train, stay away from Africa and trains that got "help" by your train.

Are you saying everybody's a racist/politically-heated asshole?

Where did you read that? Shrug.

Are you somekind of communistic propaganda-writer?

Dear Ghengis, the controlers of your train use the ghost of commuism only to scare the people in the back wagons into accepting their greed and exploitation of them. They tell them: " listen, you have to make room in those wagons, otherwise the big bad trainswallowing communist devil will dismantle this train and you will have to walk". This worked pretty well ever since your train left the station. This indoctrination has gone so far, that it would be interesting to know if its already written in your genes now.
In the end, you are willing to sacrfise your own well being just to prevent more equality. Equality which made the best trains like the scandinavian trains, exactly what they are, the best trains. They even seem to not run towards the abyss.

Why are you guys talking about trains, that's a pretty childish symbol due to this topic, are you afraid to use the real name?^^

si fueris Romae, Romano vivito more

Given the audience, the train has to do.

At least the US Americans agree again on how injust the worlds perception is towards the United States.
Nothing new here.
The rest of the world, just a bunch of spineless, lazy, uncreative anti americans jealous of the great achievements of the USA.

See? This is my point right here. The Americans did agree that the perception of them is skewed. One person said something about critics being spineless. All of a sudden all of the Americans think the whole world is spineless?

Do you not see my point myhand?

The world sucks

The world sucks

Thanks a lot Dreamer. Now myhand is going to say that all Americans are pessimists.

Myhand, could you be a little bit nicer, please? I agree with you in general, but lay off the insults. Genghis now has the right to call you as a drunk German slaughtering some pigs.