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Let's talk about open tournaments: 2/10/2015 07:15:17


Blortis 
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I think there should be some sort of expiration if tournaments don't fill but one reason tournaments stall out is because people don't decline and you can't invite more people. So maybe if unanswered invitations expired or there was some way of removing them.

Part of those unanswered tournament invites comes from mobile not having access to join or decline. Once they can join that will help fill things up also.

A redesign of the tournament page should make it more inviting. Some filters would be nice.

I think if the invite lists are updated so that people can organize players into lists more players would get invited to the types of games they like and less of the ones they don't.
Let's talk about open tournaments: 2/10/2015 07:37:07


Kenny • apex 
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How about after a certain amount of time the tournament starts irregardless of how many people have accepted the invite? You fill the holes with byes or AIs.
Let's talk about open tournaments: 2/10/2015 08:16:40


Master Ryiro 
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bad idea Lolowut
AIs are not very developed yet
and even if they were,its not the same as playing with/against a human


how about a rule which'll restrict the "number of tournaments" and "players in it" that we create based on the number of tournaments that we've joined that others have created

for eg:- for creating a 64 player tournament i have to join 1 tourney someone has created
for creating a 128 player tournament i have to join 2 tourneys someone has created
" " 256 " " 4 " "
and so on.....

32 player tourneys start very quickly so we don't have to join any other
tourney to create one

if someone creates a tournament which does not start soon(1 or 2 months),he/she will have to
join other tournaments for every 2 week/1 month their tournament is not starting

many of us don't like the idea of compulsion,so if you don't want to join unnecessary and bad
tournaments,then don't make one
Let's talk about open tournaments: 2/10/2015 08:18:30


[WM] Gnuffone 
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As you say Fizzer, before WL 2.0, only member was able to create tourney. And they used to be between 20 and 30 open tourney.

My suggestion: tourney auto-delete after 30 days if they didn't start yet.

OR like lolowut say, after X time (30 days seems legit), the tourney start with BYE (autowin, like in the WGL).

A drastic solution would be rescrict member only to create tourney. But anyway you need to delete ALL tourney older than 30 days.
Let's talk about open tournaments: 2/10/2015 08:20:00


Polakillo
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I agree with lolowut... after a time OR when the tournament creator decides, fill the places with AI's or byes.

To make it fair, i would say that some prerequisites should be met, like tournament filled over 50-60% of the players or something like that
Let's talk about open tournaments: 2/10/2015 09:33:57


Rento 
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Make it so that only tournaments created by members are visible on this page.
Tourneys made by non-members would have to be accessed directly by a link.

Or even better solution IMO: make creating tournaments a members only feature again. As well as ladders. I never understood why they aren't member-exclusive anymore.

You know what would be the best incentive to gaining levels? Colours. Make only the basic 6 available to newbies, the other 44 (yes, I mean 44) would be unlocked by leveling. Did you ever consider that?
Let's talk about open tournaments: 2/10/2015 09:49:45


Thomas 633
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that is bloddy unfair...

and Fizzer is a money making machine, don't tempt him.


Just because you have paid, doesn't mean we have. I couldn't pay even if I wanted too. And wasn't there some complaints about the 2v2 being too easy? Allowing less people will TOTALLY (sarcasm) fix that.
Let's talk about open tournaments: 2/10/2015 09:53:10


Rento 
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You've never worked in your life, have you?
Let's talk about open tournaments: 2/10/2015 10:02:03


Thomas 633
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nope

Note how I pointed out I can't pay for it. And BTW I know enough about business to know that you have to at least pretend that you care, so people keep buying stuff.
Let's talk about open tournaments: 2/10/2015 10:04:54


Thomas 633
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Due to the whole "losing my clan and fizzer not giving a fuck", I am never going to buy a membership. (and yes I know it was at least partially my fault) And I was seriously considering asking my parents (even though they would have said no). That is a potential $45 australian Fizzer lost by not caring.
Let's talk about open tournaments: 2/10/2015 10:06:58


Rento 
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The loudest people here usually aren't planning to buy anything ever.
Let's talk about open tournaments: 2/10/2015 10:12:09


Latnox 
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How about applying already tested solutions? Like removing tournaments from "open tournaments" page if noone join them for some time ? Players still could forward invites, but Tournament won't be visible anymore. And when it's not advertised and someone joins, it's visible again.

That would leaves only tournaments, where people are actually joining visible, and solve problem of bad/abandoned ones. It could work fine with autodeletion, like if tournament is not advertised for let's say 2 months, it's automatically deleted.

From the other hand, it also leaves some field for hosts, that are actively trying to make tournament start, despite lowest interest. They can just join with an alt and decline right after. And that should reduce situations, when tournament, that still have chance to start is being deleted.

P.S. it would be nice to make tournament page available for mobile devices as well :)

Edited 2/10/2015 10:16:24
Let's talk about open tournaments: 2/10/2015 10:20:10


Thomas 633
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The loudest people here usually aren't planning to buy anything ever.


Very general.


*looks around for evidence*

Yup, didn't find any.
Let's talk about open tournaments: 2/10/2015 11:25:19


Lawlz
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Thomas don't be so dense, you are the loudest here and you've clearly stated you were never gonna spend another dime :)

I too would love to see Ladders and Tournaments restricted to member only access. But there should be a middle ground, like a 20 player tourney for non-members once every other month, and the winner receives free membership.

Edit: And again Thomas, stop pissing on everyone else's thoughts because you're upset that fizzer didn't rush to comfort you with a warm cookie and a blanket. Boo fucking hoo, you lost a clan. Get over it

Edited 2/10/2015 11:28:24
Let's talk about open tournaments: 2/10/2015 11:32:25


Cheery Dog
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It should be the game as the games that get auto-deleted after 100 days of not starting, the people are going to be the same level of upset should either happen.

Also auto-declines, aka this uservoice
http://warlight.uservoice.com/forums/77051-warlight-features/suggestions/3012597-add-an-auto-decline-an-invited-player-if-innactiv
Let's talk about open tournaments: 2/10/2015 11:50:03


Thomas 633
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I am saying, and if you looked I am not the only one, about several topics, that the normal people are not being listened to. And due to the fact I own a clan clearly states I did give money to warlight. And why are you naturally opposed to anything I say?
Let's talk about open tournaments: 2/10/2015 12:09:31


Ranek
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How about after a certain amount of time the tournament starts irregardless of how many people have accepted the invite? You fill the holes with byes or AIs.


This idea is great, except the AI part, which is pointless. I'm pretty sure, it will easily fix the current situation. Unfortunately it only works perfectly for 1v1 games. In case of team games, it would be annoying to fill AIs in the missing slots. Instead you could fill uncomplete teams with players from other uncompleted teams and kick those players that are left over, starting with those, that have joined the tournament at least. Or just kick those uncompleted teams.
In my opinion, players, who join team game tournaments are responsible to fill the missing slots in their teams. If they simply blockade an entire team for theirselfes, they are part of the problem as well.

Edit: tournaments would need a countdown, that shows when they will be enforced to get started

Edited 2/10/2015 12:23:08
Let's talk about open tournaments: 2/10/2015 13:03:52


shyb
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ditto what blortis said.

unsuprisingly, the only tournament i joined that actually started was one i created. it was only successful cause i knew not to aim too high and made it a 20 person tourney.
Let's talk about open tournaments: 2/10/2015 13:21:25


Polat Alemdar 
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@Fizzer

Nearly 1 week ago i sent you an e mail. i am not sure you read it or not but i know that you dont care it. It was a long mail but after you told me to write it to uservoice i stopped to write more.

your coin system is only for coins games. i suggest you to allow people do more with coins.

when people want to open a tournament there should be a cost for this.
when people want to join a tournament, there should be a cost for this.
and every step they passed in tournament, there should be a coin prize for them.

***i know everybody doesnt have coins. i didnt want to write the system i sent to fizzer. it is too long. with this system you can earn coins from lots of different ways or you can buy coins bundles.

and with some small settings filters you can solve it.

If creator is not active more than like 30 days, tournament should be automatically deleted or should be managed by an active player.

maksimum boot time: it should be like not more than 30 days

inactive players (30 days maybe) should be taken out automatically.

team tournaments: there should be a leader for every team.

for example in a 512 players tournament:
*after 1 month if there is not more than 128 players joined
*after 3 months if there is not more than 256 players joined
*after 6 months if tournament didnt start
tournament should be automatically deleted.

open tournaments should be in an order with their fill rates.

.....
Let's talk about open tournaments: 2/10/2015 13:42:25


Krzysztof 
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didnt want to write the system i sent to fizzer. it is too long

you know about Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V ?:P
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