@Thchosen1

I know you have a hard time dealing with a new truth, but please stop these strawman fallacies, because its tiring. Try to carfully read and disprove my arguments if you are so eager, but stop putting words in my mouth and make connections I didn't make.


I didn't talk about sheeple, because the USA is under tight media control of a few cooporations serving only the interests of the plutocracy.
I consider the majority of US people sheeple, because they refuse to think for themselves. They let themselves lure in a war with the same country twice, based on lies.
And instead of admitting the tragic mistake, that cost hundreds of thousands iraqis (and iranians before that) their lives, contanimated Iraq with radioactive waste by DU - ammunition that lets cancer rates skyrocket, in iraq civil society and among US veterans alike, and condemning the US actions as legally and morally wrong, the same people stand here defending the US interventions as rightous. Sorry that I can't give their mental capabilities nor their moralities any credit.

I am honestly willing to properly inform you and clear up misconceptions of historical and current events, but you have to check my arguments and ressources and try to disprove them, not resort to tricks and deception in trying to question the validy of my claims by altering the context or connecting them wrongfully.
If you are so eager to keep on playing the advocatus diaboli, you may do so, but try at least to refute my arguments and facts, don't reinvent what i supposedly said.


And please elaborate this:

yes it's one thing to say that perpertrators of those acts should be punished, it's another thing together to have those acted on. Has there been any record of that?

because I dont understand what exactly you mean.


P.S.: Had you read carefully what i wrote in my former posts, you would have an idea of why the West "took 40 years to act" ...

Edited 3/20/2015 20:19:54

I know you have a hard time dealing with a new truth

You think this will convince him more?

It's official

Ok, I've been off the forums for a little bit, so I'm going to respond to a few things.

@myhand (post 22): I was asking what your solution was to all of these problems with America you keep bringing up. All of your language is focused solely on pointing out problems. Just pointing out problems is useless without working towards solutions. At least suggest 1 solution to 1 problem you've pointed out.

^^I didn't carefully read every single thing everyone wrote since I said that, so you may have suggested a way to fix some things. If so, good job! Let's work on fixing them.


@lawlz (post 75): That man is wearing a St Louis Cardinals shirt, I think it's much more likely he's from my hometown, St. Louis, MO. A place where we do not inbreed and are not *ahem* in the south.

@ottoman (post 101): Lol, that picture is hilarious!

LAWLZ

Edited 3/20/2015 23:53:47

Well, yeah...in all countries, you have speech freedom to bash other countries.

If that's all you see, then you only help prove what myhand has been saying all this time.

And Ottoman.

And myself, for that matter.

I know USA has bad policies and all that shit what ever the fuck you say is right what ever I say is wrong blah blah

(Also could the USSR have really won without American equipment?)

i think myhand is Vladimir Putin XD

In total, the US deliveries through Lend-Lease amounted to $11 billion in materials: over 400,000 jeeps and trucks; 12,000 armored vehicles (including 7,000 tanks, about 1,386[25] of which were M3 Lees and 4,102 M4 Shermans);[26] 11,400 aircraft (4,719 of which were Bell P-39 Airacobras)[27] and 1.75 million tons of food.[28]

Roughly 17.5 million tons of military equipment, vehicles, industrial supplies, and food were shipped from the Western Hemisphere to the USSR, 94% coming from the US. For comparison, a total of 22 million tons landed in Europe to supply American forces from January 1942 to May 1945. It has been estimated that American deliveries to the USSR through the Persian Corridor alone were sufficient, by US Army standards, to maintain sixty combat divisions in the line.[29][30]

The United States gave to the Soviet Union from October 1, 1941 to May 31, 1945 the following: 427,284 trucks, 13,303 combat vehicles, 35,170 motorcycles, 2,328 ordnance service vehicles, 2,670,371 tons of petroleum products (gasoline and oil), 4,478,116 tons of foodstuffs (canned meats, sugar, flour, salt, etc.), 1,900 steam locomotives, 66 Diesel locomotives, 9,920 flat cars, 1,000 dump cars, 120 tank cars, and 35 heavy machinery cars. One item typical of many was a tire plant that was lifted bodily from the Ford Company's River Rouge Plant and transferred to the USSR. The 1947 money value of the supplies and services amounted to about eleven billion dollars.[31]

The US really does have a history of supplying future enemies

American tax laws are crap, Obamacare is just going to fuck us up more, we invade countries for no fucking reason all the time, we have the shittiest congress in history , we say we have free speech but that's a damn lie, Bush was awful , Obama is awful , I'm awful , We have fucking faux-feminists that are advocating for sterilization , we can't figure out how to stop a war in a country next to us how would we be able to stop a war in a country on the other side of the planet, we have the most advanced technology but it's in the hands of us so is that a good thing? We have created several puppet governments in the 20th and 19th centuries , we basically gave nuclear technology to the USSR. I want to put a bullet in my head now.

You already have a bullet in your head.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtgDkdTAyXs

No escape from the mass mind rape
Play it again jack and then rewind the tape
And then play it again and again and again
Until ya mind is locked in
Believin' all the lies that they're tellin' ya
Buyin' all the products that they're sellin' ya
They say jump and ya say how high
Ya brain-dead
Ya gotta fuckin' bullet in ya head

Edited 3/21/2015 01:11:13

we basically gave nuclear technology to the USSR.

haha

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E7fzUGR8ZH4

^relevant song

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gthZSjdqjjk

^not quite relevant

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CB8QyCkwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fm.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DnZvPhtnraCM&rct=j&q=nas%20my%20country&ei=m8kMVaCHG8aiNrWPhJAF&usg=AFQjCNGvjZhOlL9nHd_g9F3OB1U6EPfLdw&sig2=Qkgg9R62Wyi-h27YmRpJdA

That man is wearing a St Louis Cardinals shirt, I think it's much more likely he's from my hometown, St. Louis, MO.

HA, Missouri is full of fucking morons. It only like 1 step up from Mississippi

LAWLZ LAWLZ LAWLZ