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Homophobia/Immaturity In Warlight: 4/2/2015 15:02:15


ps 
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I usually blacklist and/or report homophobic, racist or other forms of clearly insulting behavior from other users i occasionally witness in warlight, either in games or forums.
Homophobia/Immaturity In Warlight: 4/2/2015 15:04:26

Austin Williams
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*pats @Angry Panda on the back*

Did that feel nice? You want a cookie?
Homophobia/Immaturity In Warlight: 4/2/2015 15:06:21

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oh nah a bucket of popcorn pleaz
Homophobia/Immaturity In Warlight: 4/2/2015 15:11:18

Nauzhror 
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"I will use an example I read from another source : Say a man doesn't like girls with brown eyes. So when it comes to having a relationship, the guy displays aversion towards girls with brown eyes. Does this make him immoral? Absolutely not. Its similar to homophobia. Its natural (he has no control over his preference of girls with brown eyes) and it doesn't the man him immoral. "

Bad example IMO.

A guy not dating a girl because she has brown eyes is more akin to a guy not dating a guy because he's a guy.

I'm not calling heterosexuals homophobic.

When that guy refuses to speak to someone as a person because they have brown eyes, refuses to sit next to them on a bus, makes their life hell by insulting them, or passes them over for a promotion because they have brown eyes however, that's more akin to homophobia. Or at least to most homophobes. Some people are merely uncomfortable around gay couples, but don't see the need to vocalize to everyone in sight that homosexuality is wrong (in their eyes). They can't control the way they feel, they can control the way they act however.

I'm referring to homophobes being able to repress their hatred or disgust, not homosexuals needing to repress their homosexuality, their homosexuality harms no one, homophobic actions on the other hand are not victimless.
Homophobia/Immaturity In Warlight: 4/2/2015 15:13:16

Austin Williams
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Nauzhor wins this thread, makes more sense than my arguments.
Homophobia/Immaturity In Warlight: 4/2/2015 15:20:03


myhandisonfire 
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@Austin Williams

This is because Colonel "logic" equals that of Kentuckys Governor Steve Beshear, who claimed that the state's ban on gay marriage should be upheld in part because it is not discriminatory in that both gay and straight people are barred from marrying people of the same gender. It is an idiots statement, meant for idiots.

@Pulsey

You are smart enough to understand ska2D2's perfectly correct correction of your analogy, so give it a try. He is not concerned about homophobic being silently homophobic and keeping to themselves, he is concerned about homophobic people denying homosexuals the same rights they enjoy, just because they don't like their sexuality.
In your example with the brown eyed girl, if the man would equal a homophobe, he would deny the girl to be intimate with any one else (or other brown eyed girls) just because he is browneyedgirlphobic. His choice of not being intimate with the brown eyed girl does not constitute the criticism tolerant non-bigoted people have with intolerant ,bigoted people.
Homophobia/Immaturity In Warlight: 4/2/2015 15:30:58


[WL] Colonel Harthacanute
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There's a special relationship between Kentucky and Colonels.

Anyways, in response to the heterophobes on this thread, homosexuality is an abomination.
There are two reasons. One: God told us not to do it. Two: It is not natural.

Point number two is the most important to explain, because you lot probably don't believe in a creator of the universe. The whole point of attraction to other human beings is so that they can have sex. The whole point of sex is to reproduce. I hope you know what reproduction is. If the outcome is not what the action was intended to achieve, the action is rendered pointless. That is my opinion, and so far nobody has proven it wrong. If you want to be a cheese-eating surrender-monkey, feel free to piss off, and I won't trouble you. If you wish to argue, I will destroy you in a verbal manner.
Homophobia/Immaturity In Warlight: 4/2/2015 15:39:21


The Lord
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Your god also told you that pedophilia is cool. Why is this such a touchy subject for you?

Look at Africa and Middle East, those guys are reproducing like rabbits. Now they don't know what to do with all that human waste, so they threaten to flood the EU with asylum seekers. Get it?
Homophobia/Immaturity In Warlight: 4/2/2015 15:57:05


Eklipse
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Your god also told you that pedophilia is cool.

Citation needed.

Look at Africa and Middle East, those guys are reproducing like rabbits.

Meanwhile certain countries in Europe are trying to give people incentives to have more kids, what's your point?
Homophobia/Immaturity In Warlight: 4/2/2015 16:01:53


myhandisonfire 
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I took the freedom of reporting you The Lord for calling people "human waste" to push some racist agenda.

Let's see if this can set a presedence for fizzer concerning how much racist inhumane behaviour polluting the forums he is willing to tolerate .
Homophobia/Immaturity In Warlight: 4/2/2015 16:08:21


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Anyways, in response to the heterophobes on this thread, homosexuality is an abomination.
There are two reasons. One: God told us not to do it. Two: It is not natural.

Point number two is the most important to explain, because you lot probably don't believe in a creator of the universe. The whole point of attraction to other human beings is so that they can have sex. The whole point of sex is to reproduce. I hope you know what reproduction is. If the outcome is not what the action was intended to achieve, the action is rendered pointless. That is my opinion, and so far nobody has proven it wrong. If you want to be a cheese-eating surrender-monkey, feel free to piss off, and I won't trouble you. If you wish to argue, I will destroy you in a verbal manner.


Can't really argue with someone who doesn't enjoy sex when it's not for reproduction purposes.

Thank goodness you are qualifiably enlightened enough to guide all of these lost souls and teach them what your imaginary divine entity perceives as moral or immoral.

Curiously enough in nature there are plenty of species who are homosexual, some of them even have 2 sexes. Wonder what makes gay and lesbian sex unnatural then. Thousand years of religious bigotry dogmas anyone? Guess burning witches is also fine and dandy, i mean, god said it was to someone who believed in it, at some point, no?
Homophobia/Immaturity In Warlight: 4/2/2015 16:12:40

Austin Williams
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@Colonel

Verbally destroy, I don't give any authority or credit to any holy book, or any god. As I don't believe in any, there is no evidence to confirm that deities exist and no evidence to confirm that they don't exist. So, hopefully leaving religion out of this, prove to me with easily verifiable facts, or scientific studies that homosexuality is an abomination.

I have nothing against heterosexuals, I am heterosexual.

Following your point about "If the outcome is not what the action was intended to achieve, the action is rendered pointless."

I disagree about whether said action was actually pointless. Taking any "grossness" out of it, what is innately unnatural? Heterosexuals can have the kinds of sex that homosexuals can, and the point of sex for some may be to express their love for one another, or solely for pleasure. Continuing with the "unnatural" point, because the exact acts can happen among heterosexuals, the main part of the issue is that certain acts don't result in conception and pregnancy. In which case, can an infertile man have sex with his wife post menopause? Or can two infertile heterosexuals have sex?

If it's unnatural and your god doesn't want it to happen, why does he allow it to happen? Having the ability to manipulate everything in the known universe, seems like he could stop it anytime he wanted to.

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Homophobia/Immaturity In Warlight: 4/2/2015 16:42:43


Жұқтыру
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I'm guessing you live in a country where the inhabitants have very few rights. I'd suggest moving out of North Korea as soon as possible. Many countries are part of the UN, the UN has a list of basic human rights that it's member countries must allow for the country to still have membership in the UN. Therefore, the UN's list of human rights supersedes the individual countries list of human rights, unless the country guarantees more than the UN minimum.

So, in general, you have more rights. Were you being kept from marriage, kept from entering certain establishments, and harassed because of X trait you have, I think your tone would change.


Tshhhhhhhhhhhh

My country is part of the UN (and so is North Korea), and the seven basic human rights:
1. To have life
2. To not be tortured
3. To not be enslaved
4. To have a fair trial
5. Speech
6. Thought, Religion and Conscience
7. Movement

But the first two are the only ones that matter.

Also, there's no X trait, there's therapy to cure yourself of being sexually-mentally ill.
We need to start enslaving gays, that would teach them.
Homophobia/Immaturity In Warlight: 4/2/2015 16:47:37


The Lord
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Citation needed.


Really? You could've just googled it there are plenty of sources. Even Colonel didn't deny it in his LGBT problem thread. But here's a link for ya: http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Uswa_Hasana#Effect_on_Islamic_Morality

Meanwhile certain countries in Europe are trying to give people incentives to have more kids, what's your point?


Do you live under a rock? The world has a problem with overpopulation, not its opposite. The world population is skyrocketing. This is the general tendency, even if some countries have local shortages. Human need to reproduce is no argument against homosexuality.

I took the freedom of reporting you The Lord for calling people "human waste" to push some racist agenda.

Let's see if this can set a presedence for fizzer concerning how much racist inhumane behaviour polluting the forums he is willing to tolerate .


Hypocrisy is strong with this one. Aren't you the one who constantly creates threads with nude women, and then throws a temper tantrum when Fizzer deletes them? Aren't you the one who excuses suicide attacks on Charlie Hebdo and Jews on the basis that Israel and the USA are fighting dirty as well? Sometimes, I cannot help but think that your anti-Jew rhethoric would make Goebbels proud.

Any person with half a brain will understand that my comment was a criticism of overpopulation, not Arabs or Africans as people. Nor is criticism of your favourite religion anywhere near the same as racism. But it's easier to try and censor differing views than rather than listen to uncomfortable facts, no? :)
Homophobia/Immaturity In Warlight: 4/2/2015 17:16:17


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@The Lord

Lying your way out of this mess is possible the only exit you see.
Considering I have been called almost everything in my life and in these forum populated by adolescents, being called a hypocrite is fairly new.
If you would have read any of my comments and threads I made, anything really, you would have found out that hypocrisy is among the things i resent and argue against the most.

So please, link me anything that shows an anti Jew rethoric or anything that shows that I excuse the suicide attack on Charlie Hebdo.

Anyone that is not a cripple with only half a brain, but has a full functioning one, would agree with me that you made racist comments against Arabs and Africans.
I endure twisted bigoted comments all the time, but none of them are facts. Nor do I want fizzer to censor all those posts by people with below average intelligence, even though it would feel refreshing. But I do want him to make a stand when racism, homophobia or hate in general gets out of hand, as it has been in the forums lately.

P.S.: Overpopulation is not a problem, distribution of wealth is, always has been. Overpopulation is a result of extreme uneven distribution of wealth in third world countries. It is the price of social insecurity so to say. If you are really interested in facts, instead of your made up fiction, you should look at these links where Hans Rosling explains it very vividly:

http://www.ted.com/talks/hans_rosling_on_global_population_growth#t-30860

http://www.ted.com/talks/hans_rosling_religions_and_babies

http://www.ted.com/talks/hans_rosling_reveals_new_insights_on_poverty#t-1952

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Homophobia/Immaturity In Warlight: 4/2/2015 17:47:37


Жұқтыру
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Considering I have been called almost everything in my life


I doubt it...

have you been called a cow, pig, bird, rabbit and Moskalin?
Homophobia/Immaturity In Warlight: 4/2/2015 18:16:15


The Lord
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@myhandisonfire

What I said was that the governments of Africa and the Middle East do not know what to do with the overpopulation that is in their hands, so they do things like send them to Europe as asylum seekers. A perfectly sensible point. But you, being the mind-reader that you are, managed to discern the "real intention" of that comment, which was allegedly a racist one.

If you had bothered to read any of my previous posts, you would know that I denounce racism and homophobia in the strictest of terms. I regularly call out racists, homophobes as well as religious extremists on their BS. But do not let uncomfortable facts bother you. You *know* that my real intentions were sinister and racist. You could read it between the lines, couldn't you?


As for your Jew-hate etc, here some links:

https://www.warlight.net/Forum/51845-israelipalestine-conflict?Offset=108

You paint the Palestinians as victims of terror while minimizing the suffering of Israelis. If that image is to be taken seriously, then Israelis being afraid of Palestinian bombers are laugable cowards. They must be imagining it.

https://www.warlight.net/Forum/51845-israelipalestine-conflict?Offset=7

Need I say more? Israel is a fascist state, elected by its fascist zionist nazi population.

https://www.warlight.net/Forum/69919-french-shootings?Offset=6

After Charlie Hebdo bombings, the first thing you have to say is that the west is full of barbarians, so the suicide attack was insignificant if not even justified. You go on to characterize people with differing views as brainwashed by western propaganda.

And last but not least:

https://www.warlight.net/Forum/79349-illusion-military-power-carrier-fleets

You tell us, despite nobody asking, how weak the US military power is. Apart from your questionable argumentation, why did you feel the need to bring this up? If I thought I could read minds, I would say that you have a tremendous hate for the USA. But, I leave the supernatural to you.

PS. being the curious person that I am, I actually watched the two first videos you linked to. While his argumentation is simplistic, I won't deny that he is probably on the right track. Still, contrary to what you are saying, overpopulation is a problem indeed. Caused by other problems, but a problem nevertheless.
Homophobia/Immaturity In Warlight: 4/2/2015 18:35:29


Жұқтыру
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You paint the Palestinians as victims of terror while minimizing the suffering of Israelis. If that image is to be taken seriously, then Israelis being afraid of Palestinian bombers are laugable cowards. They must be imagining it.


Israel crushed Palesitine, Palestinians started it, but they got dealed much more damage than they gave.

After Charlie Hebdo bombings, the first thing you have to say is that the west is full of barbarians, so the suicide attack was insignificant if not even justified.


Well, it's small in the grand scale of things. Have you ever heard of Beslan?
Homophobia/Immaturity In Warlight: 4/2/2015 18:47:00


The Lord
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Israel crushed Palesitine, Palestinians started it, but they got dealed much more damage than they gave.

Well, it's small in the grand scale of things. Have you ever heard of Beslan?


It's small in the grand scale of things, yes. Not denying that. But is it justified?

You see, anyone using even slightly provocative language when talking about islamic countries is labeled a racist when it comes to myhandisonfire, and preferably censored. Yet he reserves himself the right to use equally, if not even more, provocative language in other contexts, and rages at Fizzer if he deletes myhand's threads. He decided to report my non-racist comment as racist, while ignoring all the racism, homophobia, and religious bigotry that has characterized a number of threads in the last few days.

EDIT: @myhand, what do you think about the fact that Islam is condoning pedophilia? Don't you think it's a big problem?

Edited 4/2/2015 18:48:48
Homophobia/Immaturity In Warlight: 4/2/2015 18:57:13


Eklipse
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while ignoring all the racism, homophobia, and religious bigotry that has characterized a number of threads in the last few days.

Please list the racist threads you speak of.
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