@ thomas633
it seems you ahve completely misunderstood the problem ppl are having with the dashboard.

If i use your idea of a comparrision with a car. The dashboard tab is like a fancy new car with a giant LCD screen on the back of the driver's seat , a coffemaker next to the stearing wheel and a toaster above the gear shifter (gear stick). I don't really need these features, i will not use them but they will annoy me constantly.

Edited 8/3/2015 13:12:38

Someone's having computer problems... (may I what laptop and phone you own? Sounds like Windows and Apple respectively, but not sure)

Actually my computer works fine. I was making fun of your analogy and making a statement that slightly older tech which works is better than something that's new but defective in some manner.

By all means have a whine

Actually, it's called protesting. Because it turns out that there's some people who when they disagree with something decide to actually speak out, instead of just following the herd.

I stated earlier that raging against Fizzer won't accomplish anything, and I still think that's true. However, I'd like to believe that a majority of people making logical points as to why the new system needs to go and the old needs to stay would actually catch Fizzer's attention.

Edited 8/3/2015 13:14:41

Everyone keeps talking about the majority, but the only evidence you have is from this thread - there are thousnads of people who play warlight and about 50 or so people on this thread, who's to say you know what everyone else prefers?

Personally I am also not too happy about the changes to the open games tab, I found it easier to refresh earlier, but Fizzer is trying to get rid of all the flash pages on the website, which I think is a good thing as it keeps crashing on my laptop and pc.
If this means we have to get used to a slightly different way of finding open games then so be it, are you telling me you have never had to get used to something you didn't like before and ended up preferring it over the old option?

Also the twitch update was awesome and will hopefully make more rt tournaments come up and more live streaming of such tournaments - overall it was a good update.

Edited 8/3/2015 13:52:45

OK, I have had a chance to check this out...I think this update is fantastic.

Thanks Fizzer!

The history UI is a MAJOR upgrade. I hated having to move that window all over the place. I hope this happens for the chat sometime as well (and when that happens I REALLY hope he can have the chat with more load options so it isn't just new or ALL chats...something in between)
. I also love having all the orders selected. I give this 2 BIG thumbs up.

I also really like the Fog history as well. Great idea (I did not even see that suggested).

The RT bypass Filter is a cool idea, probably will never apply to me as I don't change the filter. Same with Twitch, don't care about that at all.

I don't see any negative really. I am not a big fan of the dashboard (I would like to see some forum preview options there added), but I have been using it for months and I won't miss the My Games tab at all. I'd like to see some upgrades to the dashboard, but that is about it.

Edited 8/3/2015 13:51:59

I absolutely like the update too, as I'm already used to the dashboard since a while now the loss of the open & my games tab is no loss at all, only thing it affects is that the bar looks better now and the new history is way better (everything is better than a popup in the middle of your screen :D)

This update would be terrible even if the Dashboard wasn't poorly laid out, which it is. There's no reason behind removing the tabs, and the dashboard is horrible for finding new games. Who the hell thought that having to scroll down past every single game I'm in to browse the new ones was a good idea?

Edited 8/3/2015 14:15:38

^That makes no sense. You said it was horrible even if the dashboard was not poorly designed, then the only reasons you gave were about the dashboard layout.

guys...the discussion is stupid...
yes it is right, before all the updates warlight was more userfriendly... myspace also was, and facebook also...
but the developers want to make it even better...
not all updates are perfect, dashboard int that helpfull and the coingames also dont have to be first page...
this is what we can discuss about... pros and cons....etc

BUT WHERE THE HELL IS THE ADVANTAGE OF REMOVING OPEN GAMES AND MY GAMES TAB????

basicly i velieve most people would agree that this might be a decente version but fizer possible moved to fast into the dashboard as it sint ready yet to be the only feature

First post ever! Please bring back the Open Games and My Games Tabs!

Honestly, Warlight was better before the update but that is just because before the update we saw a "full picture", now with Fizzer "redrawing" a new "picture" we only see the "sketch marks". Give it time and it will be better in the long run.

Also, a lot of people say they don't like it only because their not used to it.
Like showing a Kindle to your great grandma. It's not hard, just takes time to get used to.

There are some bad things right now, but you have to tear down the old shack to build the new house.
Be patient, and stop whining that it is not Exactly the way you want it. The Majority of the game is still the same.

Nothing wrong about disliking it, though. Personally, I find it quite awkward.

Adding my 2 cents: My Games and Open Games are vastly more user-friendly than the dashboard. The tabs provide an easy way of going back and forth between interfaces, and they keep everything separate. The dashboard does the opposite of this, merging all the functions in a horrible and disorganized way. Here's some reasons I don't like the dashboard:

• I have 70-90 multiday games going at any given point. This has never been a problem for me before, because I can easily keep up with it and the 10 game a page format for My Games meant I didn't have to load an excessive amount of games at once. However, I am now forced to load all 90 games at once, drastically lowering my performance. In addition, to get to open games, I have to scroll waaay far down. For that reason, I literally didn't know we had open games on the dashboard until 20 minutes ago when I took the time to examine it.
  
• It's cluttered and disorganized in the extreme. On the left we have My Games and Open Games squished into one column, which is bad when you have an excessive amount of either as I do. On the right is everything else, most of which I don't care about and never will, since I don't play competitively or play coin games.
  
• It's a lot harder to find specific games when all of them are shoved into one column where the names don't stand out at all. It was easier when I had segments of 10 games at a time.
  
• This is a repeat but it bears repeating: this lowers my load time from <1 second to ~5-10 seconds at a time. My Internet isn't the best either so sometimes it just doesn't load at all.

A lot of these problems are because I do have a lot of multiday games going at once. So what? We shouldn't punish players for having more or less games. When Fizzer took away the My Games and Open Games tabs, he took a system that was efficient, useful, and user-friendly and replaced it with a cumbersome and inefficient mess, one that is widely despised. Look, I didn't have a problem with the dashboard originally because I didn't have to use it. In fact, I still don't because the old link to My Games still works. But eventually he's gonna take that away and I won't be able to play WarLight effectively, if at all, because my computer can't run it.

Fizzer, this is a message directly for you: Listen to your users. When WarZone was announced as the new name, everyone went up in arms and rightly so. Now we're doing it again. I can't speak for everyone, but from this thread and the chat I've seen in my games, a very large amount of people hate this new update, even though it brought in good things along with the bad. When you make updates like this to get money and solely to get money, you lose dedicated users. There are better ways to do this. Listen to the feedback of your users before you make big changes like this.

EDIT: And for everyone saying that we haven't seen the finished product and that the dashboard is a WIP and that change is good, DON'T RELEASE THINGS BEFORE THEY'RE READY. That is a godawful business model for anything. Before airplanes were perfected and released commercially, they didn't work and flying in them might kill you. If the dashboard is an incomplete project, finish it before making us use it.

Edited 8/3/2015 15:29:19

When you make updates like this to get money and solely to get money, you lose dedicated users.

How is this to make money? He took away my game and open games because they run on flash!

I completely agree with Falcon

don't see what all the fuss is about, most of the functionality is on the dashboard, which is what 90% of you are using as your entry page to warlight anyways. those old menus were just cluttering the interface with redundant functionality. and if you really are that obsessed with using them you can still use them via direct url. so use them.

receiving death threats (even if it is from immature idiots) for a developer rolling out an update on his program is not cool though. regardless if you agree it's the right way to go or not. i would ban you if i was fizzer.

how many of you are certified interface usability experts btw?

just because you are used to an interface it doesn't mean it's the best option and that it should remain as it is forever. interfaces evolve, it's normal, you'll get used to it.

Edited 8/3/2015 15:36:21

This thread just passed by the old record of 87 comments in 1 day of the thread 'who's the coolest warlight player' with a stunning 110 comments recieved in a day. This makes it the most popular thread on Warlight.

Feel Lucky to post! :)

I wonder if Fizzer has read this thread.

How is this to make money? He took away my game and open games because they run on flash!

I completely agree with Falcon

I was under the impression that he took away the My Game and Open Games tabs to force us to use the dashboard so we would see more ads, and he would receive more money from advertising.

I am sure he reads it. Likely won't comment. What is the point? He warned this change was needed long ago. Everyone complaining just wasn't here or didn't bother to read it.

Adjust people.

fizer is used to this kind of threads every time he makes a significant update.

Although i can understand that he mgiht want to avoid flash, it kind of sucks to be constantly loading the flash program every time I jin a new game

I seriously hope I'm wrong about what Fizzer is going to do. He's never once (To my knowledge) gone back on an update before, but the outcry against this most recent one is greater than any controversy before. Hopefully it has been noticed.

Of the 120+ posts, only 30 separate people have actually voiced discontent over this update, while 20 or more have voiced how it's fine and they liked the dashboard anywyas.

My only gripe about the dashboard is the lack of a close/minimize button on the little tabs, but other than that it's fine. The rest of this update is excellent and has been asked for a long time coming.

Also as far as controversy goes, Warzone announcement was much worse. I don't think anyone agreed on Warzone being a better name for this game.