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Clan League 7 - Division D1 Official Thread: 1/29/2016 04:11:17


KKND
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@motd, what you mean?
The 2 clans have been decide already. Or there any 3rd clan to promote?
Clan League 7 - Division D1 Official Thread: 1/29/2016 04:24:25


Deadman 
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@KKND

I was answering this hypothetical question posed by GE

I was just thinking about what would happen if a clan dropped out from a division above D1 and D2, what would happen?
Clan League 7 - Division D1 Official Thread: 1/29/2016 04:28:36


l4v.r0v 
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Alternatively, you could drop games involving clans from the bottom (one by one) until the leagues become comparable. I bet it's going to be a lot less silly once you take out DARKLORDS and the Poon Squad (and the bottom 2 clans from D1) from the equation.
Clan League 7 - Division D1 Official Thread: 1/29/2016 04:44:01


Great Expanse 
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@Kynte, is it possible to drop these games with a program as opposed to doing it manually?

And I'm stoking conversation, Division D1 needs to have the most number of posts! Division A can never pass us!
Clan League 7 - Division D1 Official Thread: 1/29/2016 04:45:44


l4v.r0v 
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Possibly; depends on what data's publicly visible.
Clan League 7 - Division D1 Official Thread: 1/29/2016 05:01:04


Great Expanse 
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All the tournaments are publicly visible. The Clan League data sheet is publicly visible but only select players can edit it.
Clan League 7 - Division D1 Official Thread: 1/30/2016 14:07:18


Sephiroth
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you could drop games involving clans from the bottom (one by one) until the leagues become comparable.
I did this for division A and D1 and I found out that LuFredd > Apex, as expected.

Seriously this idea is stupid
Clan League 7 - Division D1 Official Thread: 1/30/2016 17:08:58


l4v.r0v 
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^ I suggested it for D1 and D2, not A and D1. We're already buying into the premise that D1 and D2 have comparable participants (which I agree is BS); I'm just suggesting a better way to do that- removing the clans that make it obvious that's not the case and recalculating. Take out the Poon Squad and DARKLORDS and the bottom 2 clans from D1 and you'll end up with somewhat more comparable points records since you get rid of the bonus points D2 clans got from getting paired with some shit-tier teams.

Edited 1/30/2016 17:14:35
Clan League 7 - Division D1 Official Thread: 1/30/2016 17:31:28


Fleecemaster 
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I might be able to help, I'm building a bot that will be able to handle leagues, if you give me an idea of what you want I can try and incorporate that, I haven't got to the point where I can test it in public though yet. I can always push it if you want something soon though?

(I don't know how this system works as I don't follow the clan leagues)

Edited 1/30/2016 17:32:38
Clan League 7 - Division D1 Official Thread: 1/30/2016 17:35:54

Darth Darth Chinks
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@knyte But Poon Squad got more points than Juggernauts. Why remove Poons and not Juggs in this case?
Clan League 7 - Division D1 Official Thread: 1/30/2016 19:21:07


Sephiroth
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My point is that you cannot compare two different divisions without having them directly fight each other, and in particular the system knyte proposed makes no sense at all.

My suggestion is to let the 2nd clan from each division fight each other on one 1v1, one 2v2 and one 3v3 game - template might be chosen at random or just be voted on
Clan League 7 - Division D1 Official Thread: 1/30/2016 19:29:54


l4v.r0v 
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@Buganda: I guess Juggs then.

My point is that you cannot compare two different divisions without having them directly fight each other


That's true. I'm not contesting that.

The best case scenario is Clan League actually creating those games to compare divisions. I don't expect them to go through that effort, since the system is already broken in terms of how many games it requires.

Barring that, we're forced to buy into the premise that D1 and D2 are comparable (which we've already bought into by treating them both as the same level).

To be clear, the proposal I made isn't statistically sound. I only made it because it's marginally better than the alternative of just straight-up picking the 2nd most points and acting like D1 and D2 are equal.

I think that the organization (having two D-leagues instead of methodically or even randomly having a D and E league) is already stupid and demonstrates how broken and slow a system Clan League is.
Clan League 7 - Division D1 Official Thread: 1/30/2016 19:31:51


Guiguzi 
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Bad luck for Yin-Yang.

Some guy wouldn't play the 2v2 with Neptune (0-6, even though Neptune dominated in his 1v1 (5-1) and 3v3 (6-0). Yin-Yang's other team tournaments: 6-0, 4-2, 5-1, 6-0. I'm sure with a reliable teammate that 0-6 would have been at least a 4-2.

And then Yin-Yang comes in second in the D league but isn't assured of a promotion to C.

Aside from me, when have you seen a Yin-Yang player talk on this forum? Don't hold your breath, you won't find anyone to come here to ask for any favors.
Clan League 7 - Division D1 Official Thread: 2/6/2016 22:37:43


Great Expanse 
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Just one game to go! https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=10085943

C'mon guys! I want to finish this division!
Clan League 7 - Division D1 Official Thread: 2/6/2016 22:47:28


l4v.r0v 
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Whoa! That last game could still make the difference between 3rd and 4th for CORP and M'Hunters. And it would affect the number of clans with 60%+ win rates.
Clan League 7 - Division D1 Official Thread: 2/6/2016 22:59:03


Ox
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Nah, it couldn't. M'hunters already won their 3v3 Europe game, and have 147 points. The best CORP could do (and I've been informed that they will probably win this game) is 143 points, so it's an incredibly close finish.
Clan League 7 - Division D1 Official Thread: 2/6/2016 23:05:44


l4v.r0v 
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Oh- I misread the Max Points as Total Points again. >_>
Clan League 7 - Division D1 Official Thread: 2/6/2016 23:08:22


♆♆♆ RedBloodyKiller ♆♆♆
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Too bad we could win this season, but we did not play so seriously, we got to many boot starting from me and in 3V3 one of our team just give up got booted in the rest well we can say we lost due boot but next season its ours for sure the big dogs gonna play =)

but our friend just stop playing don't know if he okey or not just like lynx with darkpie

https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=1640058653 and i hope is okey =(

Edited 2/6/2016 23:10:38
Clan League 7 - Division D1 Official Thread: 2/6/2016 23:17:17


Onoma94
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Was in this season one clan that DIDN'T suffer from boots?
Clan League 7 - Division D1 Official Thread: 2/7/2016 20:46:04


Great Expanse 
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I know M'Hunters, ILLUMINATI and General Chou all had players get booted. I'd say its likely one clan didn't have any boots but I really don't want to check all the games.
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