Warlight aims to ensure that there is no unfair play. That members don't have an advantage against non-members and for the most time this was the case however not anymore. The fact that Commanders are used in RT ladder while non-members can't create games with commanders creates a problem in that players who aren't members can't practise this template.

https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=10950388

If you look at the public chat although not in English. Basically states that my opponent didn't understand how commanders work, not being able to practise with it leads to a problem where members can achieve more experience with this new feature. I have many similar cases that I've experienced where my opponent has no idea what to do.

Fizzer has stated that commanders need to be used in the RT ladder as it is now a feature of warlight and all features should be represented in the RT ladder. He has also taken the effort to change some of the temps on the RT ladder but the problem commanders is still a problem.

I would suggest Fizzer remove the temps that use commanders on the RT ladder or allow commanders to be used after a certain level like most features.

Yeah, if you're not gonna make certain features available to all players, they shouldn't be on ladders. As a non-member, I have to rely on a member to invite me to a game if I wanna practice things like Bomb Card or Commanders. So obviously the player who can create those types of games whenever they want is gonna have an advantage in practicing those features. Personally, I think these settings should be available to everyone, but I understand that paying for a membership has to come with some perks, so I'm not sure which option is better.

There are a lot of rules in warlight and you have to practise them to learn. Commander is just one of them. I know very good players they are only good at one type of settings on one certain map.
If you want to practise with commanders you can play a game with a commander. And, It is good that it is added commanders to real time games. So, anyone who wants to practice can join there and practice.

If anyone wants to make more practice, you can just ask someone with a membership, and they can open tournaments or games and invite you. And, when members did open games with commander they have to play with other people. They cannot play alone.

This my tournament with commander
https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=17883

This is my team FFA game with commander

https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=10894396

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Back in the day same basic rule (membership no advantages) was supposed to be a thing, but non-members could not create games with anything other than 75% luck. All ladders 16% luck, no-one complained, nothing was changed really.

Make an alt and train on the ladders

what is a commander card?

Make an alt and train on the ladders

Playing with 2 accounts on the ladder is not allowed.

Another advantage members now have is the autopilot function. The WL Wiki states that membership doesn't increase your chances at winning a game., however players with membership can now access a function which allows them to play a turn without considering strategy at all. I know this wasn't the original idea of the autopilot function, but this could potentially mean that members actually gain an advantage.

I don't see commanders beeing an issue here. The much bigger pay to win situation can happen right now on the very bottom of the ladders. Members can let an AI take turns for them, that are likely to be better than their opponents on that low rank.

I don't think that's much of a problem cause the AI is still bad and can only beat the weakest players on his own. Maybe nobody on that skill level got a membership or the ambitions to win games that badly anyways

Edited 4/20/2016 16:28:33

If you have not already, you should probably uservoice it.

As long as they are not added to a RT template on the ladder, not sure it is an issue IMO.

Chris they are on a RT ladder. Thats the problem

Playing with 2 accounts on the ladder is not allowed.

duh,

youd take the main out. why make an alt to train with if you were just gonna keep playing with the main anyway XD

It is already on RT? I thought that was not going to happen until after Fizzer did the RT ladder polls.

Shows you how often I am on RT ladder.


Do we have auto games for it? If so, then I think it is fair to have it on RT ladder. I think there should be auto games for every non-seasonal ladder BTW.

Edited 4/20/2016 18:38:57

^ Along with AI update Fizzer also exchanged Season IV with Season XXIII and removed WR from EA&O on the RT ladder.

Edited 4/20/2016 18:50:37

Can you use them in single player?

try finding a sparring partner who is a member and is willing to make games with commanders with you?

^ Seems like a decent option. You don't need a membership to play with commanders, you just need a friend with one :)

hint hint *wink* *wink* gib sum frendz

yeah they don't have to play themselves. I created a ton of practice games for my clan mates when they announced it for seasonal. But I do agree it shouldn't be on the ladder if some people are not able to practice it