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The Martian Rants: Transgender Bathrooms.: 5/13/2016 21:54:58


Darth Darth Binks
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I'm gonna be honest. I didn't know it wasn't officially against the law to use a public restroom that is not intended for your sex until North Carolina passed a law that banned just that. I mean, I understand taking your little boy into the women's bathroom and the like, but I had no idea this was being tossed around.
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So there's this idea being passed around called "transgender bathrooms." This phrase describes a bathroom in which people who identify in their minds to be a certain sex, even if they biologically aren't that sex, can use. In other words: A woman who feels like a man inside can use the men's bathroom, and a man who feels like a woman inside can use the women's bathroom... I smell rape and other acts of sexual assault. Do you?

I think this is a no brainer, but the idea is being so heavily pushed, so I might be missing something. Why? Why is this a thing? Is this the way it is in European countries? Is it no big deal to see a woman waltzing into the bathroom while you have your schlong whipped out taking a whiz in a urinal? I feel uncomfortable enough standing next to another man whilst the both of us are changing oil, hearing the occasional turd drop in a stall, but to have a woman who claims she is a man inside be in the same space is even more awkward. I couldn't imagine being a girl and seeing a man walk in.

The Obama administration claims that they are pushing the case to make all feel welcome and so as not to discriminate based on your biological makeup. In other words, telling you to use the same bathroom as the other men is discriminatory and bigoted. This is all to make the few feel welcome, but it makes the many very on edge, especially, I would think, the women. There is absolutely no proof a person can give to make sure that they feel like the other sex.

Am I the only person who thinks that sexual assault will skyrocket if this becomes a thing? What am I missing?
The Martian Rants: Transgender Bathrooms.: 5/13/2016 21:59:50


Жұқтыру
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Am I the only person who thinks that sexual assault will skyrocket if this becomes a thing?


I don't think it will "skyrocket", it will likely grow moderately, but my grounding: if you're going to separate sex organs, do it, but then separate sex organs - not sex brains.
The Martian Rants: Transgender Bathrooms.: 5/13/2016 22:00:52


OxTheAutist 
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People that don't know what loo they belong in deserve to be forced to go in the disabled's.
The Martian Rants: Transgender Bathrooms.: 5/13/2016 22:02:00


OxTheAutist 
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Seriously though, +1 Juq and basically anyone that agrees along those lines. This is fucking stupid.

Saying they'll skyrocket is a stretch, agreed, but there probably will be an increase.
The Martian Rants: Transgender Bathrooms.: 5/13/2016 22:02:05


Darth Darth Binks
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"Gender neutral" bathrooms are a thing, usually for families with young children. Some have been suggesting to install these bathrooms in more public areas for transgender people. I'm less against this idea, but if I see you walking out of one of these bathrooms, I'm going to assume you are gay. For people who haven't come out, that's a slight problem.

This would also be discriminatory, making bathrooms specifically for transgender folk, and therefore counter-productive to the main point of the issue at hand for those who support this whole case.
The Martian Rants: Transgender Bathrooms.: 5/13/2016 22:03:53


Darth Darth Binks
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Look, this is a "Rants" post. I'm not looking to construct a proper college thesis for y'all. I have surprised myself that I didn't include swear words this time.
The Martian Rants: Transgender Bathrooms.: 5/13/2016 22:03:56


OxTheAutist 
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@anonym Basically he means that people should go to a loo that suits what sex they are; not what sex they think they are.

Edited 5/13/2016 22:04:20
The Martian Rants: Transgender Bathrooms.: 5/13/2016 22:08:13


Imperator
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I'm not sure if this is the case in other countries, but in america we have these helpful little illustrations on our bathroom doors:

http://www.staples-3p.com/s7/is/image/Staples/s0395217_sc7?$splssku$

I mean it's really simple. You look at the signs, and determine which one looks like how your body does. It's not about discrimination, and it's not about telling you how to think, It is simply separating out restrooms based on what your physical appearance is as to not disgust other people in the bathroom.
The Martian Rants: Transgender Bathrooms.: 5/13/2016 22:12:49


OxTheAutist 
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You also have Saudi Arabia ;)
The Martian Rants: Transgender Bathrooms.: 5/13/2016 22:15:59


Major General Smedley Butler
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So you think that anti- "man" in women's bathrooms laws will stop criminals from doing bad things in those bathrooms? Well we all know criminals care about the law.
The Martian Rants: Transgender Bathrooms.: 5/13/2016 22:27:56


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The Obama administration claims that they are pushing the case to make all feel welcome and so as not to discriminate based on your biological makeup. In other words, telling you to use the same bathroom as the other men is discriminatory and bigoted. This is all to make the few feel welcome, but it makes the many very on edge, especially, I would think, the women. There is absolutely no proof a person can give to make sure that they feel like the other sex.


THIS!

I feel uncomfortable enough standing next to another man whilst the both of us are changing oil, hearing the occasional turd drop in a stall, but to have a woman who claims she is a man inside be in the same space is even more awkward. I couldn't imagine being a girl and seeing a man walk in.


Well, I myself don't feel comfortable using a public bathroom for anything other than washing my hands. In fact, I have never shitted on a public bathroom in my whole life. It'd make me twice as uncomfortable.

Sure, they could use the argument "make you less comfortable to make all trans more comfortable", but they're still much lower in numbers than arguably normal people; in the end, it's dictatorial and fascist.

tht said, the notion tht rapes and sexual assaults would skyrocket is right wing fearmongering at its finest

but ya, i dont want creepy 40 y/o men being able to use da girls bathroom just cus they woke up 1 morning and decided they were female


Pretty true in all ways. The second sentence specifically. I don't know if it'll skyrocket, increase or won't change, but the second sentence sums it up enough reasons.

but my grounding: if you're going to separate sex organs, do it, but then separate sex organs - not sex brains.


+1

People that don't know what loo they belong in deserve to be forced to go in the disabled's.


LOL

I mean it's really simple. You look at the signs, and determine which one looks like how your body does. It's not about discrimination, and it's not about telling you how to think, It is simply separating out restrooms based on what your physical appearance is as to not disgust other people in the bathroom.


And this wins the thread, basically. ^_^
The Martian Rants: Transgender Bathrooms.: 5/13/2016 22:36:57


Major General Smedley Butler
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Pervert folk can already use other gender bathrooms, calm down.
The Martian Rants: Transgender Bathrooms.: 5/13/2016 22:38:53


Жұқтыру
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There is absolutely no proof a person can give to make sure that they feel like the other sex.

THIS!


No, this is just wrong. WHO was forced to take down gayness from mental illness a while ago, but transsexualism, deathlove, and a few other things are still on there, for just those kinds of loons. It's also a natural thing that happens in other beasts just as well.
The Martian Rants: Transgender Bathrooms.: 5/13/2016 22:45:01

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I've always found it a bit odd that someone who identifies as the opposite gender finds it SO IMPORTANT that they use the bathroom designated for the gender they identify with or else they're being OPPRESSED. Plus it just opens up a world of opportunity for the perverts. It's like this with locker rooms in high schools too, with men who say they identify as women getting full access to change in the women's locker room, and when the women speak out against it they're just brushed aside. When did indecent exposure become a crime only determined by the perpetrator?
The Martian Rants: Transgender Bathrooms.: 5/13/2016 22:48:37


Жұқтыру
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Actually, they are, and Muhammad was a giant hoax by the fatnose Jews to brainwash the Arabs - did you know this about Islam? Yes, just a giant hoax.

Edited 5/13/2016 22:48:57
The Martian Rants: Transgender Bathrooms.: 5/13/2016 22:58:37

Comrade Drunksky
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@Жұқтыру:
Then why is there a link between homosexuality and instances of sexual abuse as a child?

Edited 5/13/2016 22:59:47
The Martian Rants: Transgender Bathrooms.: 5/13/2016 23:09:22

Comrade Drunksky
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Well, it is a sin, but they're certainly not better off dead. They're still people like you and me.
The Martian Rants: Transgender Bathrooms.: 5/13/2016 23:16:24


Жұқтыру
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Who's Allah? Did you mean Aaah! I usually say this when I'm pooping, maybe Allah is the name of one of the toilet chocolate? Anyhow, I got permission from my cat to change sex if I wanted, so it actually is permissible. Also, Muslims sound like they're slaves to me, if they must obey every order of this poop. Also, Allah can make folk rich? Praise be to Perun, I must rob this poop, or actually, no, that'd be...pretty messy...and get me sent to a loonhouse. But selling it for chemic holdings, maybe i pooped out a diamond or something. is that how Allah was made?

Also, women are slaves to their poop as well? wow, Islam is so oppressive. so this poop, does it float and glide, like a balloon or blimp, or do the women just cart it about everywhere? Anyhow, if it was me, Allah, i'd send that poop to the firestead, and burn it for biofuel, burn it like it was hell, where this filthy Allah feller belongs.

Hmm, let's see, quoting Al, some bloke who lives in Nissa? It's a nice enough borough, I guess, hot, though. And usually called Nice, as it's French now. Wait, is this even a human beast, or is it more like a, what do they've at Nice, some...pineapples? Anyhow, gotta be clear there, if this is another prophet like that Jew lord, the Mohamet feller.

Anyhow, tamper with Allah? It's a poop, i know some folk eat it and stuff, but we don't live in some third world african borough like makka or something, ok? welcome to holland, now you can become atheist and eat stuff other than poop. But anyhow, tamper with poop, that's something that i only indirectly do, when I flush a toilet.

Oh, there's Mohamet's atheist brother from another gay mother, Al from Nissa. He must be Italian or something, most folk call it Nice. Oh, crap, does he boss folk about as much as Muslim poops? France might be in trouble from radic Islamisation - no - it is in trouble. But yeah, folk are being reported to eat poop and praise toilets as Islam teaches. I hear in Islam the conversion process is that you have to heat a fresh poop from Al from Nissa, is this true? hooh, muslims are weird.

I ask Al the poop (not Al from Nissa) to shut up, stop his bigoted and violent ways, and to go back to his kind in the French national outhouse (they only have one, in all the coutry), and find fellow prophets "dropping in".
The Martian Rants: Transgender Bathrooms.: 5/13/2016 23:18:42


Жұқтыру
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why is there a link between homosexuality and instances of sexual abuse as a child?


There are gotten and innate mental illnesses. Most benign ones (like gayness) are gotten. Abuse as a child heightens the risk for many mental illnesses - most serial killers are from such backgrounds, for example.
The Martian Rants: Transgender Bathrooms.: 5/13/2016 23:51:16


Жұқтыру
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Well, I've never met him, or maybe I have. Does he look like all other poops? Well, I know for sure that I'm not eating poop, so at most, I'll be, like, what, a pretty shite Muslim, if I say so myself?

But try my faith. Here is my takbir: "There is no god, except Perun and 20 others. Praise to Perun and the others."

Also, you don't even have to eat or listen to poop to convert to Slavism, pretty cool faith, right?

Anyhow, I'll check out these blokes you posted here, earlier, though I think you're secretly a closet Zorostorian, since you're breaking the Islamic rule: only speak when you have magic poop in your mouth to give you wisdom of the Arabic tongue, and write backwards.

Who are these though? Oh, crap, I figured it all out - your drug dealers, right? Ok, well, I'm not dumb, so the Al#1 and Al#2 and Fatso will not be getting any sales from me. I'm not really interested in the truth, if it means that I have to develop a serious cognitive disorder from being high all the time to see the truth. Praise to name is anonym, I think you are the real god here, but just modest. PRAISE TO ANONYM!
The Martian Rants: Transgender Bathrooms.: 5/13/2016 23:59:03


Жұқтыру
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Oh crap, I forgot the Third World War was going on, that Muslims are trying to take over Europe and the world and be ruled by the almighty Al (the poop). Ok, we need to build trenches in the frontlines now. Why are there not yet trenches built in France and Spain? Come on, this is not foresight, and we'll blame the establishment of the European Khalifa on you lazybones Europeans who don't want to fight some Muslims and shield their country!

I appoint myself as psychologic warfare director, and anonym will be my first hit.

*anonym, tell me more about Al (the poop). Does he command you telepathically (maybe telekinetically?) or through actual speech?
The Martian Rants: Transgender Bathrooms.: 5/14/2016 00:18:49

Comrade Drunksky
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I thought you said it was normal, but you just defined it as a mental illness. Unless you mean mental illness is normal. And now another point I'd just like to throw in:
Ultimately the division between the church and society regarding homosexuality does not revolve around one side failing to acknowledge the choices of the other as legitimate, but rather one side failing to accept that the other listens to a higher moral authority than themselves or society as a whole. (even though this other guy is going on about islam, close enough)

alsoislamisnotareligionofpeace:D

Edited 5/14/2016 00:20:23
The Martian Rants: Transgender Bathrooms.: 5/14/2016 00:33:33


Okabe Rintarou ( AKA Hououin Kyouma)
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just do this

Take a sh.t here if you have a penis

Take a sh.t here if you have a vagina

Edited 5/14/2016 00:33:45
The Martian Rants: Transgender Bathrooms.: 5/14/2016 00:39:37


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The Martian Rants: Transgender Bathrooms.: 5/14/2016 00:48:41


Жұқтыру
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I thought you said it was normal


I didn't say that. Gays are a clear minority.

Ultimately the division between the church and society regarding homosexuality does not revolve around one side failing to acknowledge the choices of the other as legitimate, but rather one side failing to accept that the other listens to a higher moral authority than themselves or society as a whole. (even though this other guy is going on about islam, close enough)


Actually, "society"'s higher moral authority trumps anything else. Evil and good are only relative. But this constant moral authority is part of the grounds why some Christians are very anti-science - science contradicts Christianity, in, for example, creationism.

Also, we're not going to cater just since you believe a God, everyone should. If you really were Christian, then you'd do what it tells you in the Book.

"All of you must obey the government rulers. Everyone who rules was given the power to rule by God. And all those who rule now were given that power by God." Romans 13

So it actually sounds like moderate Christians are the problem.

alsoislamisnotareligionofpeace:D


I was joking - I don't actually really hate Islam, though the practice of it...very iffy. But anyhow - dogmatism of any kind is not intrinsically peaceful.

Edited 5/14/2016 00:50:09
The Martian Rants: Transgender Bathrooms.: 5/14/2016 02:08:53


The anti anonym
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I spew walls of text about all this Islam shit.

But what if... Islam really isn't the religion of peace? What if Allah DIDN'T actually create everything? Maybe Christianity's where it's at... or am I an atheist at heart?

Oh how conflicted I am with myself.
The Martian Rants: Transgender Bathrooms.: 5/14/2016 04:48:22


Darth Darth Binks
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What if we stick to the damn topic at hand?
The Martian Rants: Transgender Bathrooms.: 5/14/2016 06:39:33

SVY
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name is anonym, I'd advise you to stop proselytizing. This is a site where the vast majority is agnostic or atheist. People here don't appreciate having walls of Islam shoved into their faces. Or walls of any religion for that matter.
The Martian Rants: Transgender Bathrooms.: 5/14/2016 09:23:41


Okabe Rintarou ( AKA Hououin Kyouma)
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but...................ALLAHU AKBAR 'Thread dies'
The Martian Rants: Transgender Bathrooms.: 5/14/2016 10:03:22


adrian waco
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your verses dont mean shit anyway and it isnt proof

ur book is a unverified 2000 year old book by a guy who hallunciated and wrote shit down

can i cite harry potter as evidence now

it practically the same thing
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