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If guns are bad: 5/17/2016 04:05:10


Major General Smedley Butler
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How is it not slavery? Is it voluntary? No. It's forced labor at best, forced killing and dying at worst.

Was the forced labor inflicted on African-Americans under your definition, slavery? No

Were folk captured by the Athenians and sold to other folk for labor, slaves, under your definition? No

Were women kidnapped by the Turkish Sultan's agents and forced into sex, slaves, under your definition? No
If guns are bad: 5/17/2016 04:07:36


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Incase you dont know, if one refuses to go to the military you can alternatevly do "Civil Service" in Austria. Thats basically working for the ambulance.
Ps.: You get paid for it.
If guns are bad: 5/17/2016 04:10:27


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So you get to choose your forced labor? Also , so what if you get paid? "Sorry we had you kill someone, made you see your friends die, gave you poisoning, and stole years of your life away, but here's some money."
If guns are bad: 5/17/2016 04:12:14


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I doubt as conscripted you have to kill people....
If guns are bad: 5/17/2016 04:15:52


Major General Smedley Butler
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con·scrip·tion
kənˈskripSH(ə)n/
noun
compulsory enlistment for state service, typically into the armed forces.

The armed forces don't go around planting flowers, that's what I can tell you, little Austrian patriot.
If guns are bad: 5/17/2016 04:16:55


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Currently Austria isnt really fighting any (major) wars... so we send professional soldiers instead of unexperienced conscripted.
If guns are bad: 5/17/2016 04:19:26


Major General Smedley Butler
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So you have a draft for what exactly then? It's not beneficial to the folk of the country, it's still forced labor if not forced murder, and Austria isn't going to be invaded by anyone.
If guns are bad: 5/17/2016 04:22:46


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Why do you even care then? There are much closer countries to you with conscription. Like Mexico (sorry Trump), Russia or China.
The sole purpose of conscription in Austria is to teach every man how to operate a weapon and the basic understanding of military tactics incase of a national crysis.
Unlike you warmongering America we arent killing people just for the lulz.
If guns are bad: 5/17/2016 04:29:59


Major General Smedley Butler
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Why do I care? Because evil ideas like conscription made the twentieth century a hellscape. Millions of folk were forced into fighting and millions were killed, needlessly and in the name of collective defense. And I don't give a care about what tax farm a human is from, I care about what they think, because what folk think will change the world regardless of where they're from, Mexico or Austria. And currently, this collectivism threatens to turn the twenty first century into yet again another battlefield with millions dead. Oh wait, it already has.
If guns are bad: 5/17/2016 09:30:33


adrian waco
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the draft works out for austria

the ppl consented to having a draft system

leave them alone

and stop ignoring me u twat
If guns are bad: 5/17/2016 10:01:46


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Sorry we had you kill someone, made you see your friends die, gave you poisoning, and stole years of your life away

What the hell do you think they are doing in draft?
If guns are bad: 5/17/2016 10:42:12


Okabe Rintarou ( AKA Hououin Kyouma)
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The sole purpose of conscription in Austria is to teach every man how to operate a weapon and the basic understanding of military tactics incase of a national crysis.

vs

Lets stop conscripting guys ! ''Few years later'' ENEMY IS COMING ! QUICK THROW STONES AT THEM
If guns are bad: 5/17/2016 11:10:27


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You never convinced anyone about why guns are good, and if you had a little more sense, you would simply ban guns to individuals (as most of them do not know how to use them) and also ban guns to the police, the army and anything related to the state.
Gun ban for everybody.

Edited 5/17/2016 11:17:00
If guns are bad: 5/17/2016 12:05:54


Major General Smedley Butler
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So how exactly are you going to enforce that ban? Who's going to go around taking guns? And how are the going to be successful?
If guns are bad: 5/17/2016 18:26:14


adrian waco
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u start small

u concentrate on legal gun ownership

u start with legal applications

u look at mental health of these applicants

look at em close

and thats how u would have prevented a dylan roof

then u get think tanks to find ways to reduce the amount of illegal fire arm ownership

plus u reduce the influence of the NRA

lets do these things first then consider how to get rid of more guns later
If guns are bad: 5/17/2016 19:02:16


Okabe Rintarou ( AKA Hououin Kyouma)
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mmm waco iz rite KAZOOO
If guns are bad: 5/17/2016 19:06:52


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+1 waco kazzooooooo (Seriously though I agree with what he's saying)
If guns are bad: 5/17/2016 20:02:47


Major General Smedley Butler
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^ you know you've lost when you agree with Waco
If guns are bad: 5/17/2016 20:16:22


adrian waco
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or you know you could actually argue the points that i have made

it doesnt matter who gives a position. the idea/logic/reasoning still holds the same

a hobo telling you that 2 + 2 = 4 will be true even if its from a hobo
If guns are bad: 5/17/2016 20:30:30


Major General Smedley Butler
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Well alright.

u concentrate on legal gun ownership

u start with legal applications

u look at mental health of these applicants

look at em close


The US already does that to a degree. What we need is to all individually support better parenting.

then u get think tanks to find ways to reduce the amount of illegal fire arm ownership

There's no plausible way to decrease the guns in America to near zero , regardless of the think tank's abilities.

plus u reduce the influence of the NRA

The NRA has trafficked little to now weapons to cartels, dictatorial regimes or gangs in America. The democrats or republicans though? Hah, they're much more guilty of trafficking guns to bad folk. Ban them before you ban folk like the NRA.
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