reading though this is like a running joke gone wrong!

Teams pick players. If they pick unreliable players then it should be their tough luck.... replacing players just prolongs the madness.

If you're going to run a competition make it simple.
What you're doing here is in effect penalizing teams that have good reliable players in their clans.

It's a CLAN league, part of being in a clan is that you all stick together. If people drop out then it's the clans fault or simply bad luck.
Get over it and move on

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(i can't tell you how much i'd rather that 0 clans got replacement games, but when i found out other clans did then... x_x)

To be honest, I completely agree. This is an absolute pain. However, these rules were in place before I took over. It's a bit difficult to change rules midway through a season. We generally try to avoid that, unless it is a grey area.

The biggest lesson I've learnt from this episode is to look at all the rules more closely at the start of the season. It would be great if others could chime in at the beginning and raise these concerns.

All that being said, we have a decent solution for retirements next season.

@OxTheAutist, ChrisCMU

Please post all the games which need to be replayed as well. You also are responsible for creating these replacement games and posting the game links on this thread.

I’ve been thinking about this a great deal, and I agree. My father unexpectedly died a few days before CL8 started. In my grief, I completely forgot about WL and--as a result--got booted from four of my 1v1 Guiroma games. When I finally returned, I assumed, “ah, too bad, life happens.” But… when the requests for replacement games started coming in, I asked the ruling committee if I could get my booted games re-done. The answer was “No.”

So, in effect, you have players who committed to play in CL8, then decided to *quit* (something over which they HAD control) and their clans received replacement games. At the same time, others (like myself) who committed to play, but had a personal crisis (something over which they had ZERO control) are told, “No replacement games for you.”

Very unfair, in my humble opinion.

The CORP v VS Great Lakes game was the accepted GL game, as it had not started when Koala was officially declared retired:

https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=11835724 (will be remade when my brain cells function)

There are also 3 China games to be remade, although if Ven truly doesn't care at all they might just all be dropped :p 2 have not started, but 1 has, and here is the link.

https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=11840939

@farragut:

My sincere condolences for your father... *hugs*

I noticed you were booted during the picking phase from all of your games. How come your request to have replacement games was denied?

https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=19322

He was not deemed inactive...players like Jinxed who disappeared from WarLight are apparently in their own category as per CL rules.

If the "inactive" players come back before CL ends, does that mean the replacement games don't count anymore?

waco dun retire
waco fite
waco stronk
mmmmm let waco dis CL up wapo mmmm

@ZeroBlindDragon

Thank you for your sympathies. Here's the reply from my contact to the ruling committee:

Hello farragut,
We've spoken about this situation in the CL panel, and unfortunately we cannot allow replaying games where an active player was booted. We had a rule in place to prevent replaying such games. There have been a lot of boots across divisions. If we allow replaying of your games, then we will have to allow replaying all those games for everyone which sets the league back a lot(in terms of time to complete). It is also a logistical nightmare.

The rule for replaying games of a retired player was given as a compromise to all clans(at the start of the season). However, even that rule will be removed next season.

This is probably not what you would like to hear, and I'm sorry.

Cheers,

Thank you for the share! This is what I had imagined... But there seems to be a flaw in this which could be easily exploited: if Stahlgewittern simply claimed you, farragut, had gone inactive from Warlight, then they would have been eligible for replacement games. I just want to applaud you for your honesty and I still believe you should be rewarded your replacement games this time... until this rule is removed for next season.

If the "inactive" players come back before CL ends, does that mean the replacement games don't count anymore?

The replacement games do count. If someone comes back, they cannot participate in the CL this season.

But there seems to be a flaw in this which could be easily exploited: if Stahlgewittern simply claimed you, farragut, had gone inactive from Warlight, then they would have been eligible for replacement games.

This is not true. If you claim someone is inactive on a specific date, only games from that date onward are eligible to be replaced. This prevents clans from retrospectively claiming remakes. The retired player cannot represent the clan again in CL8.

Edited 8/31/2016 01:35:55

Officially declaring myself (under Rule 6) retired from the Lost Wolves Clan League 8 Division D roster and passing the point of contact torch to japan77. I'll create a new post or edit this post later with details (games to remake w/ start dates, etc. + replacement players for each of my spots) and of course continue any ongoing games (as of the time of this post) to completion.

This is entirely serious; I don't think I can spend much time on this site this semester (or t least I doubt my ability to pull it off enough to take this action). Let me know if there's any reason this cannot be considered a proper Rule 6 declaration.

Any edits to this post will be made strictly below this sentence, to preserve the integrity of the content above. Apologies to HAWKS/etc. who may be hit by some of these remakes (although- again- no ongoing games will be remade and you're free to just autopilot your picks and whatnot and wait for me to get booted; no need to reveal any strategy).

I also agree that it would be better not to make up games. I'm one of the players benefiting from the rule, being able to remake some games because my partner disappeared; but it would be a lot simpler if there were no remakes for anyone period.

ONE needs to replace Mr X in both Europe 3v3 and Great Lakes 3v3. We're going to replace him with Don in both tournaments.

The games in Europe are against VIW and REGL

The games in Great Lakes are against VIW and Blitz

I will post replacement games shortly.

3v3 Europe:
ONE vs REGL : https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=11875283
ONE vs VIW : https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=11875289

3v3 Great Lakes
ONE vs VIW : https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=11875298
ONE vs Blitz : https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=11875302

Edited 9/2/2016 23:24:01

I also agree that it would be better not to make up games. I'm one of the players benefiting from the rule, being able to remake some games because my partner disappeared; but it would be a lot simpler if there were no remakes for anyone period.

This. There's no real price of admission or prize for clan league, so there's nothing being lost, other than bragging rights, when a boot forces a game's result prematurely. I don't see why super complex systems over retirement and inactivity, with a couple exploitable flaws over it, are necessary.

Way too much value being given to games you can get in and out of completely freely with no actual reward, to the point of overriding probably the only true rule of WarLight, that is the boot timer. Sure, not always it's a person's fault he couldn't play, and sometimes people just aren't in the mood to play, but when there's zero consequence to losing due to a boot, then why is it so necessary to go through all the effort and potential fatal flaws only to re-do a game?

If the need to prove yourself better does exist, just challenge your target to a friendly 1v1 unattached to CL or anything of the kind for that matter.

Marceline has gone retired on us,

Log-in info will be passed to Edge.

Edge will be playing in replace of Marceline for now on.