When aren't you?

isn't that your biggest strength?

I am interested to participate in next possible season.

okay you're added to next season

Season 21 participants:
Master Farah♦ https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=4543063534
Fissel The Adduti https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=2572491669
ViralGoat https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=7841556925
Kaerox https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=4628415084
krunx https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=6328159606
IMMORTAL https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=4571217678
Trixie Lulamoon https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=6043451722

Edited 9/12/2016 04:59:42

Great league but I have to leave it. Thanks for hosting!

PS. Semice is a nub and everyone knows this. :3

Just tossing an idea - in C, D and lowers: as there will be people who won't either be promoted or relegated, let there be draw for each of groups for each season (of course, between people in same tier). This way there will be no boredom as in few seasons people won't fight the same people. However, that is not possible for groups A and B.
Also, the lowest tier (that is tier G) should be done in different format - instead of RR it should be either single elimination tournament or double elimination tournament. If later and if winner actually win all games, the winner should be promoted not to tier F but to tier E, thus double promoted.
Filling upper groups should be done regarding starting of the season, not after the end of season, so each player will be able to know if his position is good enough to advance or not (as not only winners will be promoted), also for relegation.
Killing some groups from tier (like deletion of group F2) didn't help, too, but if three groups are filled with 4-5 players, although they will have less matches, will also give better impression of who will be promoted.
However, this comment should not be considered as critic, as IMHO Pushover did great job (can't find better words for this, not to mention more superlatives) and without him and his effort all of this won't be possible.

I will never ever change the format away from RR for any level. If you want things to happen like this you can make your own league. This is non negotiable.

I will always randomize groups, drawing from 3 pools, relegated players, static players, and promoted players (and a 4th pool for groups receiving promoted players from two tiers). For this season I tried to evenly distribute players according to position from last season. Going forward random is probably the only fair way to go.

"so each player will be able to know if his position is good enough to advance or not," this is clearly impossible, people will always drop out mid season, promotion and relegations must be adjusted. And have you even read this thread? I have already provided the worst case scenario and I said I'd update it as the season progressed.

Killing F2 was required because 7 people in tier F didn't join their fscking groups. Having fewer than 7 players in some groups was required because people didn't join their fscking groups. If people actually told me they were dropping out between seasons then this wouldn't be an issue. But it is and I have to deal with it as I can.

Because of the way invites work in warlight, shuffling players so that all groups get filled is not feasible. I would constantly need to ask players to join and then decline and join something else. Or stagger the start ridiculously, so that tier G starts 2 months after tier A. Just starting the groups without the laggards is easier. You have to realize that telling warlighters what to do is like herding cats.

Thanks for the suggestions but for the aforementioned reasons I'm ignoring all of them :P

Edit: Sometime Sunday evening I'll probably provide the next update.

Edited 9/11/2016 07:22:16

Hello guys and gals :) I'm interested of joining if that's possible of course...
Either way,we gotta thank u for all ur efforts of improving active players. :)

You've been added to the new players list.

ye more greeks !!!! lets invade this league

I would like to be part of season 21 if possible

Thank u Pushover..!Specially For me and the other new guys,it's a very good chance to learn a few things from more experienced players. :)
Dr Love,get ready...Winter is coming ;) Hellas...!!!

GROUP A
timon92 (2-1)
Timinator (2-1)
Krzysztof (3-3)
FlyingBender (2-2)
Beren • apex (2-2)
Jefferspin (1-2)
rocky1 (1-2)

Hooo boy, so both Timinator and timon92 have beaten Krzysztof, which probably kills his chances for the title. timon92 has beaten Timinator for the second straight season! Beren has beaten timon92, however has also lost to FlyingBender. Key remaining matchups: pretty much all of them! Just about anyone could end up with the title if they win out, and just about everyone is in danger of relegation.

GROUP B
master of desaster (4-0)
Bigchps147 (2-1)
Master of the Dead (1-1)
JV (0-1)
Mirror (0-1)
Master Turtle (0-3)

master of desaster is cruising to a guaranteed promotion. The only question for him is whether he wins the group with an undefeated record, or if Master of the Dead can win win out and possibly force a 3 way tie for first. As it stands though, Bigchps147 is looking to take the other promotion spot. Still plenty of games left to be played however. Turtle is in an extremely tough spot, and needs a lot of help to avoid relegation. His loss to BigChps147 was a real heartbreaker, to the tune of 34 turns!!

GROUP C1
Great Expanse (2-0)
almosttricky (2-0)
Buns157 (2-1)
Oh Noes (2-3)
Master Bjarke (1-2)
Verzehrer (0-1)
ChrisCMU (0-2)

almosttricky wins a couple games to put himself in the running for group win. The others continue to beat each other up.

GROUP C2
smileyleg (5-0)
Pushover (4-1)
Metatron (2-0)
Hades (3-2)
Don [ Ω ] (1-4)
Master Atom ◆Elite◆ (1-5) - Removed for inactivity (surrendering without playing)
Ollie (1-5) - Removed for inactivity (boots)

So we all of a sudden have two dropouts from this group, which means I have to scramble to adjust the promotions and relegations already, damn... only the bottom player will relegate, which will probably be Don. Metatron's games against smileyleg and I will decide who gets the outright promotion and the promotion playoff.

GROUP D1
Tony Sodano (3-0)
Sułtan Kosmitów (1-0)
awesomeusername (1-1)
USA Biches (0-0)
ferede (0-2)
Andersault (0-2)

Tony Sodano gets three quick wins to take the first place spot. ferede and Andersault need to win some games. But there are plenty of games left to play here.

GROUP D2
Dom365 (5-1) - WINNER
Arkanton (4-2)
Master Jz (4-2)
Maréchal Lannes, duc de Montebello (3-3)
PhucilliJerry (2-3)
Platinum (2-3)
MightySpeck (a Koala) (0-6)

Congrats to Dom365 for winning the group! Arkanton and Jz will both promote due to the tier C dropouts. Meanwhile, the final game between PhucilliJerry and Platinum is critical for deciding relegation. The loser will definitely relegate, and the winner will definitely avoid relegation due to winning the tiebreaker against Maréchal Lannes. MightySpeck finishes without a win and will certainly relegate.

GROUP E1
butterfly94 (2-0)
graemes (2-0)
Onoma94 (1-1) - Leaving the League
Cata Cauda (0-1)
<SNinja> Leinad (0-1)
Turkish (0-2)

butterfly94 and graemes are looking like they will battle for the group title.

GROUP E2
PanagiotisTheGreekFreak (4-0) - WINNER
13CHRIS37 (2-1)
Hasdrubal (1-1)
Ryzys (1-2)
mslasm (0-4)

Congrats to PanagiotisTheGreekFreak for winning the group! Second place will most likely come down to Hasdrubal and 13CHRIS37. But since top 3 will promote due to dropouts, the actual results will probably not matter, unless Ryzys finds a way to play spoiler. mslasm finishes last and will relegate.

GROUP E3
DR. Love (2-0)
독일남자(Rob) (2-1)
Min34 (1-0)
Hostile (1-3)
Benjamin628 (0-1)
tomjh (0-1)

It looks like Dr. Love is taking the early lead with a win over Rob. Min34 has an undefeated record in play.

GROUP F1
Pink (1-0)
[wolf]japan77 (0-0)
AWOL Gls AJ (0-0)
bobbob000 (0-0)
Hunta (0-0)
Math Wolf (0-0)
BADA (0-1)

Welp. Only one game completed so far. Says Math Wolf: "both my opponents are on vacation. Don't blame me if this group will take a long time." Have no fear, AJ has lots of practice taking blame!

GROUP F3
culpa (3-0)
rouxburg (3-1)
[NL] bassoonplayer (2-1)
[WOLF] Colonel H Cardwell (1-1)
Countess (1-1)
Coyote151 (1-2)
Madmen (0-5) - Removed for Inactivity (boots)

culpa becomes the favorite to win the group after beating rouxburg; a win over Countess should secure the win for him. Madmen goes inactive and fails to take a turn.

Group G1
Semicedevine (4-0)
MisterT (4-1)
Doron Hoh (4-2)
kroete (3-2)
MarkusBM (2-3)
Coronel Gavilan (1-4)
Bayern München is the best! (0-6)

Semicedevine and MisterT continue their streaks and will likely finish 1st and 2nd. Doron Hoh looks like he'll finish third.

GROUP G2
Njord (3-1)
MIFRAN (3-1)
Izazovnog (2-2)
dry-clean-only (1-0)
carlos12.0 (1-0)
Dogberry (1-4) - Leaving the League
Naram-Sin (0-3)

Njord gives up a loss to Izazovnog, but still holds onto first place via tiebreaker. One more loss, though, would give the group lead to MIFRAN. It remains to be seen if dry-clean-only or carlos12.0 will be factors in this group. But due to dropouts, the top 5 will promote, so all these players should be safe. Naram-sin looks like they will stay in tier G without some big wins.

GROUP G3
Glamorous❤ (5-0)
Motoki - モトキ (5-1)
[FCC] Aura Guardian (3-2)
KKND (2-1)
Dob (2-4)
Kevin Turner (1-5)
Doc (0-5)

Glamorous is all set to win the group and earn the super promotion with a win over KKND; a win the other way could create a 3 way tie for first. Aura Guardian is currently set to finish 4th.

GROUP G4
SATS (3-1)
Electric_Kitten (3-1)
Tac(ky)tical (3-3) - Removed for inactivity (boots)
Omniscient (1-1)
Adolf Hitler (2-3)
BYG Jacob (2-3)
Weatherman900 {TJC} (1-3)

Due to the three boot inactivity rule, Tac(ky)tical becomes ineligible for promotion and is removed from the league (though he can re-join as a newbie in the next season if he'd like, i just need his confirmation). The boots puts SATS into the group lead, though Omniscient could win out and steal the win.

Edited 9/12/2016 05:27:12

Due to dropouts, promotions and relegations have changed:

GROUP A - 7 players, 2 relegate (gain 2 from B)
6th and 7th place relegates

GROUP B - 6 players, 1 dropped out, 2 promote (gain 2 from A), 2 relegate (gain 3 from C)
1st and 2nd place promotes, 5th and 6th place relegates

TIER C - 2 dropped out, 3 promote (gain 2 from B), 3 relegate (gain 6 from D)
GROUP C1 - 7 players, winner promotes, 6th and 7th place relegates
GROUP C2 - 5 players, winner promotes, 5th place relegates
2nd place C1 and 2nd place C2 will have a playoff to decide the 3rd promotion

TIER D - 1 dropped out, 6 promote (gain 3 from C), 5 relegate (gain 9 from E)
GROUP D1 - 6 players, 1st through 3rd place promotes, 5th and 6th place relegates
GROUP D2 - 7 players, 1st through 3rd place promotes, 6th and 7th place relegates
4th place D1 and 5th place D2 will have a playoff to decide the 5th relegation

TIER E - 5 dropped out, 9 promote (gain 5 from D), 3 relegate (gain 8 from F, gain 4 from G)
GROUP E1 - 5 players, 1st through 3rd place promotes, 5th place relegates
GROUP E2 - 5 players, 1st through 3rd place promotes, 5th place relegates
GROUP E3 - 6 players, 1st through 3rd place promotes, 6th place relegates

TIER F - 8 dropped out, 8 promote (gain 3 from E), 3 relegate (gain 16 from G)
GROUP F1 - 7 players, 1st through 4th place promotes, 7th place relegates
GROUP F3 - 6 players, 1st through 4th place promotes, 6th place relegates
6th place F1 and 5th place F3 will have a playoff to decide the 3rd relegation

TIER G - 2 dropped out, 4 promote to E, 16 promote to F (gain 3 from F)
GROUP G1, G2, G3, & G4 - 6 to 7 players each, 1st place promotes to E, 2nd through 5th place promotes to F
(Note: tier G dropouts do not affect promotions)

Edited 9/12/2016 05:31:21

Okay I think I edited all the errors out of the above 2 comments now.

Trixie Lulamoon, you've been added to the new players list.

Edited 9/13/2016 01:57:11

unless Ryzys finds a way to play spoiler

Hopefully I can, I'm just not sure how Hasdrubal's position against me is in our match though. I'd be kicking myself if I missed out on a 60% chance to promote! Good update as always though, Push!

Is there some more place for new participants? I would like to join.

Season 21 participants:
Master Farah♦ https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=4543063534
ViralGoat https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=7841556925
Kaerox https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=5873144373
krunx https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=6328159606
IMMORTAL https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=4571217678
Trixie Lulamoon https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=6043451722
[*Voo*] tomn555 https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=279088319
Terek https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=2340628936
Nickovision https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=4342915126
ARand0mPlayer https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=7710521647
El professor https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=9740774010
Phaeril https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=7510748853
Ink Splatoon https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=1859062976

Semicedevine, "trolling" a newbie group isn't exactly a big accomplishment. Try doing that in tier C like smileyleg did.

For those just joining this thread, see page 2 for the latest update.

Edited 9/22/2016 01:16:11

I'm interested in joining next available season if there's room.

Added you Terek, and also updated Kaerox's profile link