Good idea, Widzisz.

Kryzchu, Verzeher, Gambler, CONQUISTADORS, Latnox, and Ultimaratio will also be asked if they want to compete in this playoff system.

Jay you say 'why would I drop out only to try to replace myself with an alt?' or something like that. I can think of a number of reasons, but firstly you haven't dropped out by choice, you are in second last so by the rules of the game are on the cusp of relegation.

Anyway, the reasons are you might want to create an image of a great player untarnished by your previous performance.

Also, an alt gives a significant advantage, particularly if you are as recognisable as yourself. I for one am certain that I would concentrate to fight you better whereas I have been taken off guard by green beret. I know this excuse sounds very 'Jay' and I normally wouldn't say it but I feel it is relevant to illustrate my point regarding why you would maybe try to enter 20 with an alt.

Just saying...

P.S. I am gonna concentrate on every game from now on since I am getting namedropped constantly.

First off, I am not on the cusp of reglation, you have to finish in the bottom 25% two seasons in a row to be reglated. I leave because I do not like un-standard templates and that is what will be used this season.

Next, If Green Beret was my alt, why would I draw attention to the fact that we are connected? I have long said he was my brother, but if he were my alt, I would have never said anything that could connect us together and make people suspicious.

And if you don't take guys in [20A] seriously, who do you take seriously?

And with the PS, good policy, I have had the same problem as you before.

What is [20]?

It's a league of 20 people who are supposed to be considered some of the best 20 players on the entire site. They play competitive RRs and tournaments for fun.

JSA, if you consider them good enough to play off in a tournament to become part of [20A], you consider them good enough to be in [20A], as they may win that tournament. Considering the list for the playoff candidates, you show some that have the qualities of top 100 player, but not a top 20 player, while some obviously show the qualities of a top 20 player. I'm merely telling you that it is quite BS that you would consider a top 100 player, yet blatantly not include any other top 100 players that are arguably better anyways.

Lolowut, In my opinion the top 20 players on warlight are (won't add myself):

Yeon
Gnuffone
Shuai
Fridge
Dead piggy
Dreuj
Falker
Frankdeslimste
JUPITER
Mannerheim
TeddyFSB
Timinator
brisk
Beelzebub
Sweningen
Anonymous
Summer
Marc
EZPickens
Schmidt

There's about 5 others in A League that are right there in my opinion. Longhouse, Old Surehand, Heyheuhei, etc.

But of the guys I invited here, I think you could only make a strong case for 6 of them that they are [20A] level players. That could just be because they are better known than some of the others. I want to give guys that could get in a chance. There is no better way to do this without people feeling like they are left out. If we do voting, unknown players are left out and not given a fair chance. I just try to lead this the best I can.

The players that have said yes:
Green Beret
WarlightMaster
Flyingburrito
ACL Tears
Latnox

Maybes:
Widzisz

No:
Yeon
Verzeher

20 is a joke. When will this shit end and wont take up space anymore on the forum.

I feel like I could randomly pick ten people and 5 would do better than half this group.

Fridge making comments is absurd.

Green Beret you beat me once, not twice (unless you beat me with an alt) and that's the only game you've played with me. Not the best indicator of skills. Winning once or twice against top players doesn't show you're skilled. I'd say a series of 5 is a better indicator :P

You are right, I beat Bigchps twice instead of you. I apologize for the mistake.

Boston - sorry I forgot to mention you.. And I definitely should have.

and stop being angry at me for the ladder game. get over it.

Boston will get himself booteed in all of them, dont bother inviting him :D

PS Add me on the no list, jay. Like i said, i'm not playing a tourney just to qualify for a league and 1v1 MDs arent my thing

PPS: Not that it matters, but how come you didnt put me on your list but sent me a mail request anyway? ;D

PPPS: Although my win rates against your other 20A contestants are nice :), there are a few players i have struggled to beat, maybe you can replace me with them instead...
Vice President Gerald Buttocks 6-0
BigChips147 3-0
00Dev 2-0
Lord sydevda 2-0

i also recall losing 2-0 to jupe, but it must have been my either account. And there are probably more, but thats all i can remeber, so yeah consider chucking them an invite

Edited 11/17/2013 01:14:13

Brain, I sent you a mail request because I forgot to add you in the second list.

I think those guys might be late backups, but I 'm not gonna invite them right away.

Boston and NoobSchool will also be invited.

I will play if there is room, I think I can beat anyone on a good day, except for Gui haha

Congratulations! This thread has won the award for thread with the most testosterone!

hmm out of boredom:

1v1
score  |  player            |   won   |   lost   |  pending
       |
   +5  |  TeddyFSB             7 (6)       1         11(10)
   +5  |  dreuj                8 (7)       2          9(8)
   +4  |  Mannerheim           6 (5)       1         12(11)
   +3  |  JUPITER              7 (5)       2         11     
   +1  |  Timinator            3 (2)       1         14(13)
   +1  |  Heyheuhei            6 (4)       3         10
    0  |  dead piggy           5 (3)       3         11
    0  |  Old Surehand         5 (3)       3         11
    0  |  Gnuffone             7 (5)       5          7
    0  |  Longhouse            6 (5)       6(5)       7
    0  |  Anonymous            8 (6)       6          5
   -1  |  EZPickens            6 (4)       5          8
   -1  |  Malamute             6 (4)       5          8
   -1  |  unknownsoldier       6 (4)       5          8
   -1  |  Falker               8 (6)       7          4
   -2  |  Frankdeslimste       3 (1)       3         13
   -3  |  marc2013             5 (4)       8(7)       6 
  -10  |  Lobstrosity          2 (0)      10          7
  DNC  |  JSA                  - ---      --          -    quit
  DNC  |  na dunga             - ---      --          -    retired

__________________________________________________________________

2v2
score  |  teammate          |   won   |   lost   |  pending
       |
   +5  |  Mannerheim             5          0          3 
   +5  |  JUPITER                5          0          3 
       |
   +2  |  EZPickens              3          1          4
   +2  |  marc2013               3          1          4
       |
  n/a  |  Dunga (?)              -          -          - 
   +1  |  Timinator              1          0          7  
       |
   +1  |  Frankdeslimste         2          1          5 
  n/a  |  JSA (?)                -          -          - 
       |
   +1  |  Gnuffone               3          2          3
   +1  |  Malamute               3          2          3
       |
   -2  |  TeddyFSB               1          3          4
   -2  |  unknownsoldier         1          3          4
       |
   -2  |  Old Surehand           1          3          4
   -2  |  lobstrosity            1          3          4
       |
   -3  |  Falker                 0          3          5
   -3  |  Heyheuhei              0          3          5
       |
   -3  |  Anonymous              0          3          5
   -3  |  Longhouse              0          3          5
       |
  DNC  |  dreuj
  DNC  |  dead piggy

__________________________________________________________________

3v3
score  |  teammate          |   won   |   lost   |  pending
       |
   +3  |  Anonymous              3          0          2 
   +3  |  Malamute               3          0          2 
   +3  |  JUPITER                3          0          2 
       |
    0  |  Longhouse              1          1          3 
    0  |  marc2013               1          1          3 
    0  |  TeddyFSB               1          1          3 
       |
    0  |  Gnuffone               1          1          3 
    0  |  Falker                 1          1          3 
  n/a  |  JSA (?)                -          -          - 
       |
    0  |  Frankdeslimste         1          1          3 
    0  |  Heyheuhei              1          1          3 
    0  |  Timinator              1          1          3 
       |
  n/a  |  Dunga (?)              -          -          - 
   -1  |  Mannerheim             1          2          2 
   -1  |  unknownsoldier         1          2          2 
       |
   -2  |  Old Surehand           0          2          3 
   -2  |  EZPickens              0          2          3 
   -2  |  lobstrosity            0          2          3 
       |
  DNC  |  dreuj
  DNC  |  dead piggy

__________________________________________________________________

Total
score  |  teammate          |   max   |    min    |  pending
       |
  +11  |  JUPITER                27        -5         16     
   +8  |  Mannerheim             24        -8         16
   +5  |  dreuj                  13 (0)    -3 (-16)    8 (21)
   +3  |  TeddyFSB               20       -14         17
   +3  |  Malamute               16       -10         13
   +2  |  Timinator              25       -21         23
   +1  |  Gnuffone               14       -12         13
    0  |  Anonymous              12       -12         12
    0  |  dead piggy             11 (-2)  -11 (-24)   11 (24)
   -1  |  Frankdeslimste         20       -22         21
   -1  |  EZPickens              14       -16         15
   -1  |  marc2013               12       -14         13 
   -2  |  Heyheuhei              16       -20         18
   -3  |  Longhouse              12       -18         15
   -4  |  Old Surehand           14       -22         18
   -4  |  unknownsoldier         10       -18         14
   -4  |  Falker                  8       -16         12
  -14  |  Lobstrosity             0       -28         14
  DNC  |  JSA                     -        --         --    quit
  DNC  |  dunga                   -        --         --    retired

Theoretically speaking, still everybody can win, everybody can lose. But we can see that currently Mannerheim and Jupiter are way ahead of the competition, while Lobstrosity somehow struggles with only three games won so far, from which only one counts to the score.. All the other players are very close to each other.

By the way - was there any multiplayer for different gametypes in this league? I think somebody mentioned something before..

Edited 11/20/2013 15:46:54

i think all games should count, so who wins 1v1 against dunga and jsa too.

they only played a few games - other games were surrenders on picks.. so i feel counting surrender on picks as a win, would be unfair for those who played and lost against them, but it's not up to me to decide.. so let's wait for whoever is in charge..

Is there a mechanic in the works where we can be put into random 2v2 and 3v3 teams? A different one for each game. This would make so much more sense in a league where there can only be one winner.