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Bulgaria bans the burqa: 9/30/2016 12:19:59


GeneralPE
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Bulgaria bans the burqa: 9/30/2016 12:22:24


GeneralPE
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Oh and a good laugh I found in the comments:

Their washing is hardly fastidious.
Their talk is perverse and insidious.
And the female muz slags
Put their heads inside bags,
Coz they're hairy and utterly hideous.
Bulgaria bans the burqa: 9/30/2016 12:52:15


Stewie
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aww damn, there goes our burqa exports.
Bulgaria bans the burqa: 9/30/2016 14:25:39


Belgian Gentleman
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their next step is banning kebab
Bulgaria bans the burqa: 9/30/2016 15:46:57


{Canidae} Kretoma
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Whoever trys to ban kebab will feel my wrath! I challenge you to a war-light-match!!
Bulgaria bans the burqa: 9/30/2016 17:26:03


Bayern München is the best!
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Amazing! Awesome! Step one done, now they should start working and they'll get no hating comments from me!
Bulgaria bans the burqa: 9/30/2016 17:49:03


Belgian Gentleman
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^ Achmed agrees
Bulgaria bans the burqa: 9/30/2016 17:56:32


master of desaster 
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Switzerland is going to make a law against face coverage as well. Not only for muslims but for people that hide their faces in general. In a part of the country this law was enforced for a while already now and they got positive experiences from it.
Bulgaria bans the burqa: 9/30/2016 18:01:05


OxTheAutist 
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I feel like if you want to ban religious objects, you have to ban them all. Be like France.
Bulgaria bans the burqa: 9/30/2016 18:04:59


Fan the Apostle
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I like the way how Europe is turning every Kebab into a Kemalist
Bulgaria bans the burqa: 9/30/2016 18:16:35


Stewie
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^ [censored by TNIO]

Edited 9/30/2016 18:16:49
Bulgaria bans the burqa: 9/30/2016 19:02:49


Bayern München is the best!
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Tbh, I think this is a bad idea since it'll turn not only the new Muslims in Bulgaria against the nation, but also demonizes the Muslims that have lived there for centuries. Meh

Anyone without a face can't go in Europe, because it is not the Arab world.
Bulgaria bans the burqa: 9/30/2016 19:05:46


فيصل - 1416
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Is Bulgaria filled with dirty heathens.....
Bulgaria bans the burqa: 9/30/2016 19:36:39


Жұқтыру
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Switzerland is going to make a law against face coverage as well. Not only for muslims but for people that hide their faces in general. In a part of the country this law was enforced for a while already now and they got positive experiences from it.


Yeah, same thing is in France and Azerbaijan.

Edited 9/30/2016 19:40:05
Bulgaria bans the burqa: 9/30/2016 19:38:58


Major General Smedley Butler
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Check Paugers for a burqa, he's a Somali muslim
Bulgaria bans the burqa: 9/30/2016 23:15:10


BUFFALO
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[Censored by Bulgarian Government]

Edited 9/30/2016 23:15:14
Bulgaria bans the burqa: 10/1/2016 00:50:00


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Switzerland is going to make a law against face coverage as well. Not only for muslims but for people that hide their faces in general. In a part of the country this law was enforced for a while already now and they got positive experiences from it.


It is how it should be written on paper. If you're gonna ban something, make it for everyone, independent from religious affiliation, gender, or anything else.
However, lets not be hypocrit about these kind of laws. These laws were introduced solely in response to muslim women covering their face. There are no other relevent exemple of anyone else walking with their face covered in the streets.

My take on this is as follow: if indeed there is an actual threat for society to have people walking around with their face covered, wich is not an unreasonable position in my opinion, then it is totally fair and just to ban face covering.

The problem is, this is hardly ever the argument used by politicians who push for these kind of laws, who prefer to invoke cultural differences, tradition, women oppression, and other bad arguments that often undermine personnal freedom in favor of the "opinion of the majority".

This is with this kind of thinking that you end up with grotesque and stupid laws like the burkini ban in France (who thankfully was overturn by France "supreme court").
And in the case of France, what make me even more frustrated is that these kind of arguments doesn't come from the extreme right wingers, but actually comes from the establishment in power atm, who is supposed to be left leaning (but who might as well be call moderate-right winger, since the only "progressive" policy we ever got from this government was gay marriage, and some progress on climat change . Economy wise, it is all right wing liberal/free market policies, and on other social issues like the war on drug it is still a disaster and the government went even further in the wrong direction)
Bulgaria bans the burqa: 10/1/2016 01:46:16


Жұқтыру
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make it for everyone, independent from religious affiliation, gender, or anything else.


Religious affiliation, gender, and other things that it's to have equal over, perhaps should be discriminated. If one group is doing proportionally more bad stuff than another, then it makes sense to suspect them over other groups.

That said, it should not be based on vague thoughts in your head of each ethnos, gender, faith, but on stats and data.
Bulgaria bans the burqa: 10/1/2016 01:50:00


master of desaster 
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I definitely agree, this law is mainly to ban burqas from muslims. I don't disagree with banning it since it's just not our culture. We wouldn't be allowed to walk around in a bikini in a city in saudi arabia without punishment ourselves. However the big problem i see is, that some muslims won't allow their women to leave the house at all anymore... we'll see to what the ban will lead
Bulgaria bans the burqa: 10/1/2016 02:38:53


GeneralPE
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I don't disagree with banning it since it's just not our culture. We wouldn't be allowed to walk around in a bikini in a city in saudi arabia without punishment ourselves.

WAYZIZM! Whytey has t'paye fo' dere crymes by lettin evvyone in!

Edited 10/1/2016 02:39:03
Bulgaria bans the burqa: 10/1/2016 02:47:26


Empire of Kilos
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Hurrah! Good job Bulgaria! I knew you were more than Yogurt, Beaches, and the sexiest name for a capital.
Bulgaria bans the burqa: 10/1/2016 03:01:11


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@MoD, You don't disagree because of culture? I think that Swiss or even European culture is independent of religion, because Switzerland is quite secular. I think that one of the problems of direct democracy is that the majorities oppress over the minorities a lot, say if the USA had a direct democracy, slavery may have never been outlawed (at-least until post-WW2). I don't think the Bikinis in Saudi example is relevant here, because Saudi Arabia is an authoritarian dictatorship, while the West has a tradition of religious liberty.

Do I overall agree with the ban? Maybe, it can help stop racial profiling, and these economic migrants (I don't like calling them refugees unless they go to a nearby country like Israel lol) always demand lots of things that are unpatriotic of Europe. There is a lot of crime in these economic migrants, and I don't think Europe needs to let them in.

Edited 10/1/2016 03:01:32
Bulgaria bans the burqa: 10/1/2016 05:48:09


Bayern München is the best!
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Benjamin, amazing comment. So now for anyone - if you didn't understand me, thats what I meant (yes I could've said it in a racist way).
Bulgaria bans the burqa: 10/1/2016 06:19:34


فيصل - 1416
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Only three words to say :-
Mfuker BULLgarhians
Bulgaria bans the burqa: 10/1/2016 07:14:59


{Canidae} Kretoma
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The Burqa is not Islamic. It is an Arabic tradition. It is not allowed at Egyptian Universities.
Bulgaria bans the burqa: 10/1/2016 07:36:37


Bayern München is the best!
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Only four words to say:
Terrorists love each other.


The Burqa should be permitted only in the Arab world - not in Europe.

Also, if anyone goes in there with shorts, he would be shot the first moment anyone sees him.
Bulgaria bans the burqa: 10/1/2016 10:33:17


[FEL] The Prince of Felidia
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I think Burqas should only be legal in Shariah countries.

Edited 10/1/2016 10:33:28
Bulgaria bans the burqa: 10/1/2016 11:13:25


125ch209 
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I don't disagree with banning it since it's just not our culture


That's the kind of bad argument i was referring to...

Burqa is not in the historical european culture, that's true. Bhuddism, Hinduism, Sikhism is not in the european culture either, but we don't ban the Turban, the Sari, or Buddhist robes, or even the hijab.
What is in our culture, i would hope, is personnal freedom and human rights. Including the right to wear anything you want as long as it doesn't overstep other people's personnal freedom & right, and/or cause a security problem.

Again, the example of Saudi Arabia is a bad one. The Talion law is a bad one. Just because Saudi Arabia has an authoritarian theocracy as a gouvernent doesn't mean we should use them as an example (unless it is for policies not to implement). They behead atheists there, that doesn't make it a good reason to start beheading saudi muslims here...

I understand the cultural angle to the ban. I hate the ideology behind the hijab (same as the burqa), and i wish that we lived in a world were women don't wear that self shaming piece of clothe , but i just don't think that a ban on it would do anygood. The only way out of this is information, dialogue, education and ideological warfare
Bulgaria bans the burqa: 10/1/2016 11:27:53


Bayern München is the best!
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Saudi Arabia and any other country is free to ban anything in THEIR country. But none of them is free to do what he wants in OTHER countries. So if they wanna wear burqas, either go away or get shot. Their choice.
Bulgaria bans the burqa: 10/1/2016 12:04:27


OxTheAutist 
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Your argument is literally

"Saudi Arabia, a totalitarian oppressive theocratic absolute monarchy doesn't respect other religions. We should be more like them! (And not like tolerant Islamic countries like Azerbaijan or Bahrain)"
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