A lot of Americans view Trump as charismatic, especially compared to most of the other candidates. His rallies were packed, he spoke in ways that kept people entertained. I guess people just like a loud, rude, blunt asshole who likes to make fun of people and kiss random children on stage without consent. Welcome to my country. :)

I don't like Trump at all because he calls me fat. Which I am not, obviously! And his wife and daughters are anorexic, it's ugly. Oink!

You're anorexic too, Rosie! Oink!

I might be. Should I eat a burger or two just to be more healthy?

FAKE NEWS

I am a Conservative Republican, so I don't like Trump all that much; his economic policies are against free trade, which is the foundation of the Conservative economic policy. For Clarification, I supported Scott Walker until he dropped out, and then Ted Cruz, once he dropped, I didn't support any candidate, but if you put a gun to my head and told me to choose, I would have chosen Trump 100%.

That said, here is essentially why I am happy he is in the white house instead of Hilary:

George W. Bush gave more money (by a large margin) to helping African's than any president, Republicans and (especially) Evangelical Republicans help Africa more than any left leaning organization ever has, and yet the media has shouted "Racist" at us every day (even though Hillary & most of the Democratic party championed Harry Byrd (Jr.)... A guy who was a high member of the K.K.K., and who used the term "White Nigger" on TV until his death in 2013).

Republicans love the family, and wish to see it flourish with the atomic family model, raising children as best as can be; for this we are labelled "Homophobic/Sexist Bigots" when we bring up our biologically scientific views on matters such as Abortion, and we are criticized for not caring about the Children enough despite us trying to fix the broken system putting them in poverty at the cost of the taxpayer.

Republicans see a crisis in Germany & Sweden (which, yes... there is a migrant crisis @whichever German guy said there wasn't... look at your crime statistics... the ones your government tried to cover up. When over 40% of the crime in your country of 102+ Million people are from immigrants, that is bad.), look at the ideology that causes it and say "That is detrimental to the Republic values of the West", we get labelled "Xenophobic/Nazi Fascist Scum" for not wanting to let them in without vetting them.

Both Republicans and Moderate Democrats are constantly targets of progressive(/regressive) movements like 3rd Wave Feminism, Black Lives Matter, the LGBTPQAI+ (However many letters are in that damn thing now... I forgot if the P was for Pansexual or Pedophile... it could be both).


Who are the ones committing these slanderous lies for virtue signalling? The Mainstream Media, Progressive Outlets, and Shillary Clinton.


Are we right on each of those issues? Maybe, or maybe not, we can have that discussion (or... not... if the free speech repealing acts keep getting presented); but can we all agree that, if you are trying to have a political discussion, and every time you make a point, you get Ad-Hom'd (no matter what side you are on, Redneck or Libtard), at some point you get a bit agitated, start flipping people off, and then go about your business... and Donald Trump is that Middle Finger.

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Here is my response to specific clauses that irk me:

"i guess if you're a dimwitted loser who is angry about how shitty your life is and want to get revenge on all the people you blame for your problems, that might seem like your best option.

... Patriarchy, Institutional Racism, etc... What you are saying moreso fits with Progressive voters and Hillary... Donald Trump wasn't that kind of candidate, as Republicans don't vote like that.

Might be true, that trump's politics most appeal to the poor earners. but his politics doesnt favor them. it is anti-social and even cuts off the few existing grants for the middle- and underclass. while the *swamp*, the tiny elite of billionaires, who is now going to change politics for their own goods, is extended.
so this must be some kind of rough masochism or blind rage, where most trump supporters hit themselves big time. which is what I still dont get. why would anyone even consider to increase personal harm, instead of avoiding it..?

A lot of Trump's Econimic policies are populist and on the left of the aisle... which is why I didn't support them... ball's in your court. (Also, the same argument can be said about Welfare.. Give me the response to "Why do black voters vote for Welfare despite it actually hurting them in the longrun?")

That has always confused me about poor republicans. Republican policies are designed to fuck them over but they give them their guns and racism and they are happy.

^ Precisely the crap I am tired of, and this is the prick that downvoted every disagreeing viewpoint as well I believe. Republican's give more money to charities, are generally more hosptiable, and have more outreach to helping African countries... so how are we all racist gun loving rednecks and opressive patriarchal rich businessmen again?

Dude, because of Trump, most places other than Russia will have war with you

Citation needed.

good point. so what is a democratic election without alternatives?

... We aren't a democracy, and we don't have Democratic Elections. We are a Constitutional Republic.

A refugee crisis or migration wave the USA is most and forward responsible for, don't you think? what exactly is the social justice plaque? this sounds like an oxymoron to me. what is so bad about obamacare? do you guys even realize that a state healthcare is even a great and in general efficient business model? you can make a lot of money and create new jobs with health insurances, beyond affordable healthcare for everyone.

point by point;

1. Well, lets assume you are right... you are crying over spilled milk, nonetheless I believe you to be wrong in that America caused militant jihadists to kill people, and then people to use that as an opportunity to leave.

2. A social Justice plague is the current progressive movements that use lies, virtue signaling, and mythical talking points to press for more restrictive speech, and more burdens placed on straight/white/christian/male/cis people through discriminatory laws. (also, side point... how is what the person you were responding to an Oxymoron? the way he worded it, it was impossible for him to have contradicted himself within its own context?)

3. Obamacare is bad for the economy. Government Healthcare is bad for the economy... Healthcare is a commodity, not a right (in America... as it would be too damn costly to make it otherwise), and as a commodity, when you only have one central business and no competition, they decide the rates, they have the monopoly, and they don't have to care.

E.g. The post office was shit and didn't care until USP started up and beat them at everything... now they do care.

first of all which news? sources or it didnt happen!

The media attacked trump all throughout his election bid with fake news stories, and they are still doing it to people that aren't even on the right (take the whole "Pewdiepie is a nazi" debacle)

but for this specific incident:
(The original article by Buzzfeed)
https://www.buzzfeed.com/kenbensinger/these-reports-allege-trump-has-deep-ties-to-russia?utm_term=.nqP2ppr9RQ#.wrVZxxnl9e
http://www.dailystormer.com/legacy-media-falls-for-trump-golden-showers-4chan-troll/
https://sputniknews.com/us/201701111049498477-media-mocking-cnn-buzzfeed-trump-report/
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-10/here-full-35-page-report-alleging-trump-was-cultivated-supported-and-assisted-russia
http://www.ibtimes.com/golden-shower-gate-dossier-timeline-everything-we-know-about-donald-trumps-alleged-2475224
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/pissgate-golden-showers-controversy
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/01/fake-news-buzzfeed-cnn-fall-trump-piss-story-4chan-prank/

^ That enough?

So it's no big deal in a democracy if a big chunk of a major party wants to ignore the will of the people? In Germany, they have a party with 1% support that would like to overthrow democracy, and they tried to outlaw it, didn't they?

^ Precisely the reasoning the founding fathers gave when describing why we ARE NOT a Democracy XD

I am a Conservative Republican, so I don't like Trump all that much

then you're not conservative.

(slightly) less civil freedoms for what he thinks to make better society? ✓
(slightly) more economic freedoms for less social programmes? ✓

I can't really take seriously a guy who thinks Christians are undergoing a genocide in America, though. but just one more thing, this often gets brought up even by good-witted folk.

look at your crime statistics... the ones your government tried to cover up.

guys guys I work with the CIA right and i can tell you right now (yeah they're going to come after me for this but i'm a rebel!) that america is doing a genocide of whiteskins! yeah ! ordered by the orangeskin Trump the government's trying to cover it up but I EXPOSED them.

now you hate Trump.

(slightly) less civil freedoms for what he thinks to make better society? ✓

"Slightly"

(slightly) more economic freedoms for less social programmes? ✓

Then why has he passed reforms that push counter to that, and hasn't gotten rid of any of those social programs yet or even moved to?


I can't really take seriously a guy who thinks Christians are undergoing a genocide in America, though. but just one more thing, this often gets brought up even by good-witted folk.

I don't believe this.


As for the thing about Germany covering up their rapes...

http://dailycaller.com/2016/04/08/german-cops-we-were-ordered-to-remove-the-word-rape-from-migrant-criminal-report/
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/8663/germany-migrants-rape
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/04/06/cologne-police-reveal-cover-new-years-eve-rape-attacks-ordered-government/
https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=55280
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/768980/Sweden-cover-up-migrant-rape-violent-crime
https://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/25428-swedish-police-government-covering-up-huge-migrant-crime-spree
https://www.infowars.com/german-government-worries-about-islamophobia-after-muslim-refugee-rapes-kills-woman/
http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/01/its-not-only-germany-that-covers-up-mass-sex-attacks-by-migrant-men-swedens-record-is-shameful/
http://www.therebel.media/german_government_tried_to_cover_up_rape_in_cologne_muslim_rape_attack_nye


^ Is that enough for you?

Relm did you actually just cite Breitbart?
Don't make me laugh.

hmmmmmmmmmm reacts only

yea lel

Historically there have always been politicians that tell poor white people that someone else (usually brown people) are responsible for their problems. This is an easy thing to pull over on people because our public education system is in the crapper. Trump fans those flames and promises absurd and extreme solutions that will do absolutely nothing to actually help the people it purports to protect because it doesn't actually target the problem, which has more to do with the corrupt actions of large corporations and the banking industry as well as outmoded skillsets. If you want to lead the under-educated, you have to make it simple. A wall is simple. A travel ban is simple. Mexicans bad. Muslims bad. Trump good! Somehow the dude was raised wealthy and grew up in prep schools and he's got a blue collar accent. He's 100% con artist.

Historically there have always been politicians that tell poor white people that someone else (usually brown people) are responsible for their problems

Mexicans taking a piece of geography for themselves, regardless of how economically productive they are (they are actually a drain on resources) are a categorical threat to the culture and its population that settled there previously. Populations always demand assimilation; whether they are assimilated or being assimilated. Thus to be engulfed in a foreign population that outnumbers one's own is to lose efficacy of one's own nature.

has more to do with the corrupt actions of large corporations and the banking industry as well as outmoded skillsets

Large corporations are globalists who profit off of destroying cultures and every other group identity under the sun to sell their retarded services to materialists.

If you want to lead the under-educated, you have to make it simple. A wall is simple

le education maymay XD

A population exposed to public education is going to be fed cultural Marxist propaganda since kindergarten, possible earlier. One should not be surprised that "educated" individuals lean Democrat. Education does piss all for IQ and critical thinking skills.

holy shit snax, relmcheatham, what the fuck?

That said, here is essentially why I am happy he is in the white house instead of Hilary: [..]

you only gave some weird excuses why you think republicans are awesome, although widely misunderstood and bullied. but almost no word about trump.

George W. Bush gave more money (by a large margin) to helping African's than any president, Republicans and (especially) Evangelical Republicans help Africa more than any left leaning organization ever has, and yet the media has shouted "Racist" at us every day

where is the connection between racism and helping africa? btw does helping africa mean lending money after they fucked up their entire economic system to collect compound interests afterwards? do you have any sources?

(even though Hillary & most of the Democratic party championed Harry Byrd (Jr.)... A guy who was a high member of the K.K.K., and who used the term "White Nigger" on TV until his death in 2013).

sources?

Republicans see a crisis in Germany & Sweden (which, yes... there is a migrant crisis @whichever German guy said there wasn't... look at your crime statistics... the ones your government tried to cover up. When over 40% of the crime in your country of 102+ Million people are from immigrants, that is bad.)

well, that sounds horrible, fortunately it's only bullshit. what are your sources mate? conspiracy theories? I read the summarized report of the BMI. germany had an increased crime rate by 4%, and most of those have been committed by immigrants, but dont shit your pants already, the vast majority of those crimes have been crimes against migration law, which means (surprise surprise) there has been illegal immigration. those crimes doesnt effect the safety of the german citizens. and the rest was most of the time shoplifting and pickpocketing. so immigrants are poor and live under rather miserable conditions. violent crimes, instead decreased. so dont worries we dont live in fear and anarchy.

look at the ideology that causes it and say "That is detrimental to the Republic values of the West", we get labelled "Xenophobic/Nazi Fascist Scum" for not wanting to let them in without vetting them.

decisions based on retarded racist and for sure wrong axioms are just retarded, racist and for sure wrong.

btw your sources are hilarious, as well as the entire issue. fanfiction and trolling gone wrong. what does this prove anyways? and at least not even one CNN quote/source.

vote for Welfare despite it actually hurting them in the longrun?

How is it actually hurting them in the longrun?

As for the thing about Germany covering up their rapes

bullshit once again. germany covers rapes? honestly mate, I start to doubt your sanity. first of all you are speaking of an entire nation. second, pls read your sources more carefully, and maybe make at least the effort and read the german coverage in this case as well. in this specific case the legal term rape which implies a explicit crime wasnt justified. I dont want to defend those actions during Silvester 15/16 and Im pretty sure no one does in germany. this entire incident caused quick and vast law changes right afterwards, so you are giving an absolutely wrong image of an entire nation, caused by pure ignorance.

We aren't a democracy, and we don't have Democratic Elections. We are a Constitutional Republic.

oh really? whats the difference?

HAHA, our German commie at full steam again. On one hand, he claims to be genuinely interested in why someone would vote Trump. When people tell him, he starts bashing them as racists, xenophobes, idiots etc.

If there is a fact he doesn't like, then no amount of links and sources is going to convince him that it might be true.

Of course, there is ample evidence that immigrants from Africa and the Middle East generally commit 10-100 times more crimes than your average native, but that's all just fake news despite it being official government sources all across the Western world. It's just a nazi conspiracy to make our German commie look bad.

And there was no mass rape incident in Cologne, Stockholm, and many other places in the New Year's Eve a year ago despite it getting international coverage everywhere. It's all just a right wing conspiracy. And of course our commie friend doesn't defend mass rape that happened in the New Year's Eve in Cologne, he just wants the perpetrators to go unpunished because they are Muslims.

don't say Cologne, it's an ugly name, also nice strawman. he afais he didn't call anyone here racist, xenophobe.

and no, there's no "ample evidence", and no, bringing up two or three attacks by immigrated doesn't count as "evidence".

also I think it should say something when the Minister of Justice herself says that making link between immigration and hooliganry at Köln (seriously it's just feminists seeing bad, rude, uncool dealing of women and labeling it as a MASS RAPE when there were something like 5 actual sexual rapes. if this happened to men it would be called a "tussle").

Oh fuck, now we have Elliot Rodger supporting Trump. It can only go badly.

also I think it should say something when the Minister of Justice herself says that making link between immigration and hooliganry at Köln (seriously it's just feminists seeing bad, rude, uncool dealing of women and labeling it as a MASS RAPE when there were something like 5 actual sexual rapes. if this happened to men it would be called a "tussle").

Feminists were surprisingly quiet about the whole incident, despite them always harping about how the West is one giant rape culture. Their excuse for not making noise about Cologne was that it could play in the hands of "racists". So rape is OK when a Muslim does it?

You are right, of course, that feminists will laugh if someone brings up men and boys who systematically get raped, but how is that relevant here?

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Feminists were surprisingly quiet about the whole incident

I'm sure they had a lot of influence. Especially in somewhere like Germany.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37482029