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Big map of Europe: 1/19/2012 23:42:24

RvW 
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Just a question about naming. When I look at the Slovenian territories, they have the following names:

  • Upper Carniola
  • Lower Carniola
  • Inner Carniola
  • Slovenian Littoral
  • Styria
  • Prekmurje

That sounds like a weird mix between English and Slovenian. For instance, this site gives a (slightly different) list of regions, with both their English and Slovenian names:

  • Gorenjska (Upper Carniola)
  • Dolenjska (Lower Carniola)
  • Notranjska (Inner Carniola)
  • Primorska (Littoral Region)
  • Štajerska (Styria)
  • Koroška (Carinthia)
  • Prekmurje (Over-Mura Region)

So, I guess I'm suggesting you rename "Prekmurje" to "Over-Mura". Also, looking around the other parts of the map where you already named territories (mostly Italy and the Balkan), I see quite a few names with don't sound very English.
Of course, it's possible English names simply don't exist, but I think it would be good if you would try to go for consistency and use English names whenever possible. However, before I start hunting down English names for territories which currently have a non-English name, I'd like to ask how you feel about it; no sense looking stuff up if you don't want to use it, right? :p

Big map of Europe: 1/21/2012 12:24:26


Ironheart
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u named finland norway in superbonus

Big map of Europe: 1/21/2012 13:51:57

Grzechooo 
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@Ironheart
I guess this is once again problem with bonus links, discussed above.

Big map of Europe: 1/21/2012 15:43:47

Grzechooo 
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And BTW. something about capital bonuses - you missed some, like Bucarest, or Belgrade, is it deliberate or you'll add them later?

Big map of Europe: 1/21/2012 19:18:01


Срећко
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I transcribed the names from the map on which I drew a country. I didn't know that Prekmurje can translated on English, Over-Mura really sounds strange to me:). I will use English names whenever it's possible if there is translation.

There will be capital bonuses for every country except for dwarf states.

I will ad Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia as last countries, because I'm not sure if there will be space to do that (map limitation is 2 Mb, my map already have 875 Kb). On the other hand, if there is no space even for all European countries i will be forced to delete a mini map (that is about 230 Kb).

Big map of Europe: 1/22/2012 03:01:27

RvW 
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I agree it sounds a little awkward, but sometimes that's the prize you pay for correctness / consistency. :(
Of course, my own country has a province called "Overijssel" (because it's on "the other side" of the river IJssel) so I guess that makes me a huge hypocrite. :p

About size limitations, maybe simplify could work a little magic? (I have no idea how experienced you are as a map-maker; if you already knew about this, no offence intended of course!)

Big map of Europe: 1/22/2012 05:32:58

bad buzz
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any chance you could put in the proper names for the irish provinces?
south- munster
west- connacht
east- leinster
north- ulster

it would just be nice to see irish names in it besides south/ north/ west/ east it is in the normal map.

Please and thank you.

Big map of Europe: 1/22/2012 05:36:41

bad buzz
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Andd on a related topic, like kosovo northern ireland has its own sitting parliment with control over local goverment. It could be put down as seperate 1 bonus apart from the uk/england bonus and the ireland bonus.

Big map of Europe: 1/22/2012 18:14:59


Ironheart
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since Scotland might split from UK i think u should make all parts of uk a bonus scotland,england and wales plus northern ireland bonus on it own.

Big map of Europe: 1/22/2012 18:29:42


Moros 
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I don't think you should make parts of countries a bonus, other than the normal regions. Scotland might split from the UK? Then why not separate Walloon from Flanders in Belgium, or make all German Bundesländer a bonus of its own. No, every registered country is a bonus, no more, no less! That's my opinion about it.

Big map of Europe: 1/22/2012 19:57:58


Ironheart
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the difference between the regions moros u mentioned and the uk divison is that each one have a national football team if u have a natinal football team u must be a nation because u allowed to play with other countries also wales,scotland and england and northern ireland are an alliance not a nation like flanders and wallon make states of belgium or as germany has states make up it's country.

Big map of Europe: 1/22/2012 20:09:51


Ironheart
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http://www.wales.com/en/content/cms/faqs/faqs.aspx
this proves wales is a country not a principality moros but in a union this is wales own website
scotland is country too source
Image URL: http://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-w...
Go to Page: http://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-w...England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland are all countries that together make up the sovereign state of the United Kingdom.
i could go on adding links and evidence but one more thing to tell you a country can only have a national football team scotland, england and wales have one

Big map of Europe: 1/22/2012 20:16:06


Ironheart
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the uk is a union not a country moros
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constituent_country

Big map of Europe: 1/22/2012 20:20:15


Moros 
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The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland[note 5] (commonly known as the United Kingdom, the UK or Britain) is a sovereign state located off the north-western coast of continental Europe.

That's what Wikipedia tells about it.

And, according to your definition, a soccer team makes a nation? Well I bet there are plenty of nations in eastern Europe, south-east Asia, Oceania, and around the Caribbean Sea that don't have national soccer teams! And I think Scotland only has it own soccer team because they were the first national soccer team in the world, and in that time, Scotland was independent.
Wikipedia:

Scotland maintains its own national side that competes in all major professional tournaments with the exception of the Olympic Games, as Scotland is not a member of the International Olympic Committee.

So, a lot of sports, but not on the Olympic games? The biggest international sports event in the world? Don't call nations nations because it says so on the title.
Count how many countries call themselves something they are not! Examples are spread around space and time, varying from the People's Republic of China, where people can't say anything, to the DDR, the Deutsche Demokratische Republik! That was East Germany, everything but democratic if you ask me.

So my definition of a country is a place in the world with population, land area, a government, has been recognized by more than 50% of the UN, and is a member of the UN itself. And Scotland fails at the last two points.

Big map of Europe: 1/22/2012 20:25:32


Moros 
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Germany is made up of sixteen Länder (singular Land, colloquially (but rarely in a legal context) called Bundesland, for "federated state") which are partly sovereign constituent states of the Federal Republic of Germany. Land literally translates as "country", and constitutionally speaking, they are constituent countries. Often referred to in English by German speakers as "states", the term "Land" (with an uppercase 'L') is used in the official English version of the Basic Law[1] and in UK parliamentary proceedings.[2] However, it is sometimes translated as "federal states" in other publications.[3]

Wikipedia on States of Germany

Big map of Europe: 1/22/2012 20:26:23


Moros 
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And, last argument: on all maps of Europe and of the world the UK is ong country, not three or four. Just as Germany.

Big map of Europe: 1/22/2012 23:16:36


CVD
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@Moros, If by the 'plenty of nations in eastern Europe, south-east Asia, Oceania, and around the Caribbean Sea that don't have national soccer teams' you mean The Marshall Islands you are right.

Big map of Europe: 1/23/2012 02:40:40

bad buzz
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/british/four_nations_01.shtml

the uk's own national broadcaster states that britain is made up of 4 countries. they have a treay which gives a parliment drawing from all 4 countries power over foregin policy, bugdet and military. somewhat like the feudal system in the states.

Big map of Europe: 1/23/2012 08:05:35

Wredi
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Hello,

though its my first post here, i want to support moros. If you look at the history of plenty countries they were merged out of smaller ones. This means they have a similar history and now a kind of the smae federal structure. italy was merged under the leading of sardinia/piemont in the 1850 and was unitited in 1861. Germany was united under prussian leading in the 1860s and was united in 1871. Why should the UK appear on the map different, if the map is designed without federal sub-boni? The meaning of the official name of Germany as a "Bundesrepublik" is also a kind of union ("Bund" = union). Germany has federal and communal units, kind of similar to the uk.

in short: If you split up boni for UK, you should do it for other countries as well.

Besides: the palyers starting in the UK would have an advantage in difference to ofer "continental"players.

sry for my english ;)

Big map of Europe: 1/23/2012 15:57:48


Moros 
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@General Michael

So, if the British system is equal to the American system, then I guess we'll have to add 50 extra countries on every map that shows North America.
I don't really care about adding Scotland as a country, I just want to play consistent maps. So, if Scotland is a country, then for example Bavaria in Germany is one too.

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