it'd be awesome if you could rank all the clans on wl (yup, all 71) :)

personally I feel REGL is around the same skill level as VIW, though I could be biased :p

Traianus Rex - As for clan league - theoretically a clan with top 6 players, and 125 complete noobs would be able to take top spot. It all depends on how you create your lineup - the clan league system might be gamed, at least to some extent and even if it is not, it still ranks the lineups each clan makes, while the ranking Pulsey did here tries to look at the clans from a broader perspective - Looking at average skill of members, not only how good the best possible lineup from each clan is.

Banana - I must agree with Pulsey here - bragging about having some players from 1v1 ladder's top 50 is not the way to go.. :/ Maybe finding some strategic tournaments where you achieved much instead of sticking to a ladder where you obviously have not done to well would improve your clans image..

Clan league also hasn't put [20] against the other A league members because they did not join until this season. So while it sorts many things out, it isn't perfect either. We happen to use all members, but some clans do not (as Fridge said).

I think is pretty hard definite which is best clan.
But i think atm, 3 are better then any other: WG WM 20. And one of them is going to lose his power IMHO.
I don't included apex bc they lost too many members and buy some new not great as other.

Edited 3/4/2014 16:21:04

1) fridge and brain: i didnt mean it as bragging, i just said it to prove that we have better success than two clans that brain said had better success than us. no offence to xs. (reason below)

"BANANA: The factors i used to measure are 1)ladder success 2)average skill. Apart from Falco, who Blitz recruited very recently, you guys have NO LADDER SUCCESS." -brain

2) "And as for average skill, well you can tell which clan is better without my help ;). " -brain

Yes i can.

3) btw we have more skilled players now than last season, and still we beat you in the 1v1s last season, brain. :)

Edited 3/4/2014 16:41:32

I guess what I mean is that it's not too hard to figure out which are the top few clans, but when you start talking about the 9th or 10th best clans it ends up just devolving to people's opinions. It's harder to build conclusive cases at that point, kind of like BCS rankings in college football.

And obviously I'm not saying that 20 is a third league level clan, but it seems the clan league is in a bit of a transitory phase right now since so many clans just joined for this past season.

If your ranking your players on the basis of the ladder, the 101st (Lynx basically, which is 101st!) are better than Blitz, xcd, xs, etc.
Top 50: Bigchps, Pedro Luiz, Riyamitie, Dreamworker,
Top 25: Me, GreenTea, Kantos, Hauptmann, Sirius, General Charles, Unreality.
Top 10: Grizzlis, JSA, Dom365, soon to be Khalid.

Mostly everyone above, got top 10 in 2v2 also. And some in seasonal.

If we take Lynx away from the 101st, we would be semi-Elite, no?

Edited 3/4/2014 18:36:00

Banana I got respect for blitz I think y'all have a great clan. but, we have taken your lunch money a bit especially in the clan league. How about we set up a head to head matchup blitz vs XCD to settle this once and for all!!!

Edited 3/4/2014 18:57:30

Apollo: i agree.

Gentleman: i did never have lunch money :( sure for me, but i will have to talk to my clan first

!!! cool this should be fun.

i should have known this would be the end of it! i try to do something constructive and what i get in return is angry people bitching about their clan merits!

Brain- I skipped the last few posts but the reason we lost to 101st in Clan league was JSA, He has retired, same with Unreality, so this season will be tough for them

pulsey we love ur analysis. pls do more and ignore those bitchings

I like your list Pulsey. Nice work!