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Clan League 11 Announcements: 2/2/2019 20:08:00


TBest 
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All lineups are posted. From this point on note that any subs should be posted in the respective division threads.

Also, I recommend filling out Math Wolf's predictions thing, if you haven't already : https://goo.gl/J2ftwS

Good lucks to all clans!

Edited 2/2/2019 20:08:16
Clan League 11 Announcements: 2/9/2019 15:40:52

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Clan League 11 Announcements: 2/14/2019 03:41:32


TBest 
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We just had a rule change for CL 11.

Old Rule
In the event of a substitution, the on-going games for the retired player will not be remade. Only games which have not been created will be allotted to the substitute. Both players will use up a slot playing this tournament. A substitution can be carried out by the CL staff. We will guarantee the substitution within a maximum of 3 days. Any new games created within this 3 day period for the retired player may be forfeit as well.


To this :

New Rule
In the event of a substitution, the on-going games for the retired player will not be remade. Only games which have not been created will be allotted to the substitute. Both players will use up a slot once the tournament has more than one game created. A substitution can be carried out by the CL staff. We will guarantee the substitution within a maximum of 3 days. Any new games created within this 3 day period for the retired player may be forfeit as well.


The full story can be found in the Division A thread. However, the short TL;DR version is that a clan (MH) did a sub that violated the old rule as it would place a player on 4 slots. However, this was not spotted in time and the tournament and games started. It was determined that the best action was to change the rule to what is now the new and current rule.
Clan League 11 Announcements: 2/23/2019 20:56:16


Math Wolf 
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Announcement from the Audit panel:


Dear Clan Leaders,

As some of you have noticed, Ko has been inactive for several months now. We very much appreciated his help in the initial organization and setup of the audit panel and the resolution of some early cases. Nevertheless, it is time to replace him as it would be undesirable to keep the audit panel a single person operation.
As a reminder, we were looking for people who care about Clan League but typically do not get involved in the drama and who are generally widely appreciated and respected by the community.

Consequently, I recently reached out to TheRiverStyxie who I believe fulfills these criteria as perfectly as anyone. She indicated that she would accept joining the ranks of the audit panel to replace Ko. Since the audit panel in principle works for the clans themselves, we of course do require a mandate for TheRiverStyxie to join the audit panel. We therefore would like to ask one representative of each clan the following 3 questions:

* TheRiverStyxie (profile link) will join the audit panel
- Agree
- Disagree

* Ko (profile link) will leave the audit panel
- Agree
- Disagree

* How should we resolve the situation if TheRiverStyxie does not get a mandate but Ko does leave.
- Continue with an audit panel of 1 member (Math Wolf) with support from TBest.
- The current audit panel (Math Wolf) proposes another potential second audit panel member.
- The clan leaders jointly propose another second audit panel member.

These questions will be distributed to the clan's representatives by TBest in the form of a Google Survey. Anonymized results will be publicly posted afterwards (similar to the Ethics committee elections).

Kind regards,
Math Wolf, audit panel
approved by TBest, CL11 organizer

Edited 2/23/2019 21:02:47
Clan League 11 Announcements: 2/24/2019 06:36:16


TBest 
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The survey link has been mailed out. If you run into any issues (or somehow are not in the mails) let me know :)
Clan League 11 Announcements: 2/25/2019 01:13:36


ChrisCMU 
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What is the role of the audit panel?
Clan League 11 Announcements: 2/25/2019 02:05:07


TBest 
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They represent the clans when it comes to ensuring that CL is organized in a fair manner. This means they can review everything I do as well as everything the Ethics panel does. (For example, if someone disagrees about a ruling, they can go to Audit). Other practical examples include making sure that votes are held in a fair manner.

If everything goes well, the workload is relatively light.
Clan League 11 Announcements: 2/25/2019 02:51:46


Kenny • apex 
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That quite honestly sounds like the worst job possible.
Clan League 11 Announcements: 2/25/2019 13:45:32


Master Cowboy 
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#xeno4audit
Clan League 11 Announcements: 2/26/2019 20:02:00


Math Wolf 
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To follow up on what TBest said: the main reason of having an audit panel is to make sure that there is a check on the organizers and ethics panel to avoid that they abuse their power and all clans doing that together is too unwieldy in practice.

I assume I don't need to explain why it's important to have a potential check on organizers and we can't just trust them to do the right thing.

If everything goes well, the workload is relatively light.

Hence why I hope that condition will be in a "TRUE" state as much as possible.

That quite honestly sounds like the worst job possible.

It sorta is. In summary, you basically have no real power and you only get involved when there is potential drama. And if there is drama, you should try as hard as possible to not get influenced by it and find a resolution that is fair for everyone, which is typically difficult if not impossible. Hence why we were looking for that specific profile only. At least real audit panels get paid well...
P.S.: make sure Styxie doesn't read this part or she may not want to do it anymore! ;-)
Clan League 11 Announcements: 2/26/2019 20:14:11


Master Cowboy 
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But how do we know that we can trust the audit panel?

I suggest we add a second audit panel to audit the audit panel.

I nominate xeno and Mod
Clan League 11 Announcements: 2/28/2019 01:35:28


TBest 
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We had an accident in A and B. The following thing occurred :

There has been a mix-up with the template for Strat ME 0% WR.

The following happened:
- The game linked for voting was a ladder game from when the 1v1 ladder still used the WR template.
- Tournament creators go to the example game and save this template to avoid mistakes.
- Tournament creators create a game with this template.
- Apparently, since the template has changed to the new SR template, the overwritten template we save is also the SR template. This appears to be intended, but we didn't know.


Our lovely volunteer tournament creators have already acted to correct the error as can be seen in the respective division threads. The erroneous tournament will not count. Figured I should post it here too, for more visibility.
Clan League 11 Announcements: 2/28/2019 12:00:21


(ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!! 
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Muhaha! Just hear on whatever I say :P

Can you please put the real template links in the sheet.
When I go on the old ladder game in the sheet and want to create a new game it opens 'strategic 1v1' which is MME 0% SR

Clan League 11 Announcements: 2/28/2019 12:07:22


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let's fight- it is your post that helped me to create ME tournament for Q2 :)
Clan League 11 Announcements: 3/10/2019 07:39:26


TBest 
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The votes for Styxie as a new Audit member are in.

TheRiverStyxie will join the audit panel
15 Agree
1 Disagree

Ko will leave the audit panel
14 Agree
2 Disagree

This change is effective immediately. Let's welcome Styxie to Audit!

While the question is not relevant due to the votes above, for completeness here is the votes for the last question:
How should we resolve the situation if TheRiverStyxie does not get a mandate but Ko does leave.
8 The clan leaders jointly propose another second audit panel member.
7 The current audit panel (Math Wolf) proposed another potential second audit panel member.

Clan League 11 Announcements: 3/10/2019 09:11:26


TheRiverStyxie 
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Thank you Tbest and thank you to those that voted and think I will do a good job for the Audit panel.
Clan League 11 Announcements: 3/10/2019 09:33:16


Corn Man 
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We need to audit the vote. To make sure the votes were tallied up correctly and all that.

I nominate myself to be Vote Auditor.
- downvoted post by Master Cowboy
- downvoted post by AbsolutelyEthan
- downvoted post by IRiseYouFall
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