i can't understand why people would want to play against bad players ... it's so pathetic.

i expect beelzebu is the same, with his 98% wins on 1v1. unless he is by far the greatest player on warlight, he's probably gaming the ratio system somehow.

^^ ha so upon reflection he did not cost me a loss - but probably a victory. My mistake.

I have considered running from Heyheuhei a few times, but it wasn't because of Warlight... >.>

@X ahahah all knows that the 90% of my 1v1 are played in eu rl.....and evreux have make a tournament in eu rl with only good players for try to search "some competition" but i don have see better players of those i usually play.....and you also have lost like a noob vs me and gnuffone on this template....anyway im started to play in 1v1 strategic m earth, i have not completed 15 games yet but my rating in ladder is 2012....your rating is 1503 and your best rating ever is 1851 LoL? are you jealous of this? or you just cry cause we have destroyed you in clan tournament?? loser.....

1 - You have no rating until you have completed 15 games. Before that time there is insufficient data to compute an accurate rating and ay score is meaningless.

2 - Bragging about ladder results? Really? You that much of a child?

Sort of changing the subject, but can I see the link to that tournament? The one you destroyed x in.

Also Richard is right on both accounts, judging from how you played your last games on the ladder and who are your next opponents, I predict you won't sustain that ranking for long.

Accuse players of cheating only because have betters win rate.....that is childish....aniway i have write " im not ranked yet " with a rating of 2012.....but he also is not ranked yet.....

this is tha tournament...http://WarLight.net/MultiPlayer.aspx?TournamentID=2495

He's not ranked because he is no longer active, not due to small sample size.

You've done well thus far but you have yet to face any top competition and that will drop your rating. Hell, I faced and beat superior competition in my brief stint and I'm not much above average.

As for the cheating accusation, I won't make that claim but I will say that win rate is highly dubious. Even the top players out there will be lucky to maintain much higher than 80%.

top players play only medium earth strategic......i think its impossible have 98 % win ratio on this template......

That's the thing. All these guys who think very highly of themselves, some of which have the right, many others don't, play medium earth 1v1 and maybe some 3v3 eu, in addition to some 2v2 ladder if joined. These players get used to these maps so they get better. This is how the human mind works; You get used to it and if you are willing to pick up tricks and use your experience you will get better.

So why all this hate towards the clan? Many play maps completely different than the earth map, like Optim, and are therefore overall good players. Now, I honestly don't understand the max 400 games played, as this is completely useless and stat-boosting, but nevertheless it is his choice. Swez, a day or two ago you played with Optim and bunes I believe against 2 others and myself. You got eliminated and the game was 100% in Optims hand. He won the game regardless. So even if some of these games are stat boosting, one cannot possibly call him or others noobs.

This brings me to belzebu, he is a very aggressive, thick-headed, yet honest player who, when there is a noob on your team or the other, will say exactly that, sometimes a bit more aggressive, sometimes not as. You cannot change his bad attitude towards others, all you can do is challenge him, on earth or eu, greece or any other map as he really does play a very wide range of maps. He, too, boosts his stats when playing noobs but isn't that the point of the game? Let's say you have 2 hours. You can either sit there and wait to play 1 or 2 really good, yet quickly decided games, or 10 regular games with minimal to no prereqs against the average warlight player. When he, or any of us, or you, I assume, open a 1v1, you don't wait for the other to join, check their profile and then join, no, everyone joins regardless of whether it is a pro or a noob.

Guys, don't get me wrong, I know where some of the guys' faults lie, and I know that some of you are simply here for trolling as you don't have an argument, but for the others, leave the clan be. I have not yet encountered any other clan that plays such a variety of maps and games. If you don't like a particular person, don't go against their whole tribe.

After all, can't we all just be friends? ;D

yeah, i'm just jealous of your ladder rating. ever since you joined the ladder i've been trying to think up ways to take you down a notch.

i have no idea why it has my current rating at 1500 though. i was never rated that low, and according to the graph my most recent rating was like 1750.

i have no idea why it has my current rating at 1500 though. i was never rated that low, and according to the graph my most recent rating was like 1750.

That can happen when you leave the ladder. Your games expire until you only have a few left to base a rating on. Typically, people lose their last games before leaving a ladder. So you're left with only a few games to base a rating on and usually those games are losses. Even if they're wins, they're too few to earn a higher rating. Eventually your rating will go to zero when all your games expire.

If you joined again, you'd raise it back up in a heartbeat.

Idfdoggy, can you link me the game you mentioned Optim supposedly won for me? I checked and it seems I haven't played him for months, definitely not recently. From my games with Optim I had similar experience to HHH, he I played some games on Europe with him, he refused to take advise any time claiming he's playing good (which he was not) and ultimately (at least according to his teammates he said that on team chat) I landed on his blacklist after he lost a game...
Anyway you pretty much should know already "why all this hate towards the clan". In general many of you try to pretend to be someone they are not. As far as it goes I don't care, though I am looking forward to you finishing myhand's challenge. Also:
"That's the thing. All these guys who think very highly of themselves, some of which have the right, many others don't, play medium earth 1v1 and maybe some 3v3 eu, in addition to some 2v2 ladder if joined." Yes, that's why all games in [20] League were played had strat 1vs1 settings.
Oh and btw. Belzebub, you really shouldn't brag about cruching x's team in that tournament, you were clearly the weakest link in your team in that game and if not for darkwing's very good early play and gnuff's good play mid-game, you'd be lost.

if i played 1v3 id be lost......you dont say? LoL

The reason I avoid this map is because the bonuses are so messed up and invisible that only if you've carefully considered every single one of them, you can start making some choices. As was said, there's one territory that gives an income of 4. The text is somewhat confusing. And the majority of bonuses are only explained in the text to the left. It's only making the map more irritating than it really needs to be.

Swez, sorry I messed that up. I was thinking about Gnuff, not optim, my bad. Nevertheless, my point stands, if one player does something wrong, don't call on all of us. I am just tired of all this unprovoked hate. Last night I joined a 1v1 game, and once again, I say hi, how's it going and get a "you stupid noob all you #elite players all boost your stats" kind of thing. Why? Why respond in such a manner when confronted with a sympathetic hello? It makes no sense. Also, this thread, this guy has no clue how the map is played and makes rather aggressive accusation, then some guys who should absolutely have no right, go on to say the usual "they boost their stats" etc. When I started playing warlight I sucked a lot and all I cared about was stats, as they look cool. Now I realize that I want to just play competitively while still having fun. When there are no good games open, I open or join a regular game.

It has come to the point here in the community where, if you don't want to be harassed and accused of cheating or boosting stats, that you need to hide your stats. I hid my stats a while ago because of this lone reason, I am tired of all this unprovoked hate.

One more thing. Getting back to the quality of #elite players. Some may not be on your level, swez, or dunga, hhh, unknown and co. but other may very well be or will be soon. Some want to play competitive games, such as the ladder, others don't. Fizzer gave us the option of creating games with filter so that one can make the wanted game. If Optim decided to want to play noobs or newbies, then let him do that.

Belzebu can be a very cool guy and has been a valuable teammate in every single game we played, well as others, so instead of hating on him or Optim, or any #elite player you may or may not even know, just be friendly and you will be payed with respect. If one of the players is rude or mean, then be rude or mean back, but don't provoke.

Swez, you go on to talk about myhands challenge. I am not aware of the whole situation but all I know is that bel, along with 2 others, has indeed fought him and won. Correct me if I am wrong. Bel is good, myhands is good, so I wouldn't mind such a game.

Lastly, the reason I am talking to you mostly, is because the other players here seem to only want to provoke and not give constructive criticism.

I'm 1-2 against Belzebu, the two losses were on real life europe which is how he has such great stats. My win was on medium earth.

I'm 2-0 against darkw1ng but I would consider him a good player.

I am 2-0 against Gnuffone, one game on real life europe and one on medium earth.

I'm 1-0 against Thanatos, played on real life europe.

I'm 1-0 against Ottarin, on medium earth.

So added together I'm 5-0 against #Elite! members on Medium Earth and 2-2 on Real-Life Europe. I wouldn't consider that an elite clan if I can beat them well over half the times I play them on 1v1.

I think all of you are good but I don't know any of you that I would consider "Elite"

•(2) USA East 1 vs USA Central 2 - Europe 3vs3 NC (Won)
•USA East 1 vs USA Central 2 - Europe 3vs3 NC (Won)
•USA East 1 vs USA Central 2 - 7v7 (Playing)
•Clan League (Declined)
•France 3v3: Round of 16 (Won)
•[P] [X] 1v1 Training: Game 32 (Won)

Games against jsa....

Are you kidding me? That is the official !elite version? That you won?
You are more and more becoming like fox news. I dont renember any!! game where !elite could win against me and teammembers of my choice, now you find me a game to prove me wrong.

If you continue spreading rumors like that i will make all my games with !elite public, for everybody to see. Also I will express my opinion in a less friendly manner than i did before.

This is the 1st game of the challenge:
http://WarLight.net/MultiPlayer.aspx?GameID=2733097

This is the 2nd game of the challenge:
http://WarLight.net/MultiPlayer.aspx?GameID=2868826

maybe in the eyes of !elite that is a victory ... it would match your selective perception of reality.