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World Cup Thread!: 6/23/2014 16:10:54


Kenny • apex 
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Portugal was extremely lucky - USA deserved the win


As an American who watched that last play.. there was no luck involved. Just Ronaldo pulling magic out of his anus.
World Cup Thread!: 6/23/2014 16:13:49


The National Socialist
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GO SPAIN! KICK AUSTRALIA'S ASS
World Cup Thread!: 6/23/2014 16:37:30


The National Socialist
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ANKLE GOAL, YEAH !!!
World Cup Thread!: 6/23/2014 16:50:33


Min34 
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Spains is out anyways. Like we care what they are gonna do ;)
World Cup Thread!: 6/23/2014 17:06:12


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I always care about my favorite teams :3
World Cup Thread!: 6/23/2014 19:00:14


Master Turtle 
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USA should have won..... ohwell USA and Germany are most likely advancing.
World Cup Thread!: 6/23/2014 19:24:36


Addy the Dog 
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As an American who watched that last play


>play

smfh

americans, just leave soccer alone. we don't send english teams to play in the superbowl, so you stay out of the world cup okay? just let the rest of us have this one. you have enough sports already and you don't even like soccer. just go away.
World Cup Thread!: 6/23/2014 19:38:36


[REGL] Pooh 
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"Portugal was extremely lucky - USA deserved the win

As an American who watched that last play.. there was no luck involved. Just Ronaldo pulling magic out of his anus"



Okay, but what about America's blocked goal in the middle of the game? That wasn't luck?

But, more pressing, why can't a soccer game end when time runs out? Who decided that Portugal should get an extra 5 minutes to tie? The mafia that has numbers running on the game? Put the game clock out in the open so everyone knows when the game is over. Stop the clock WHEN the clock stops, then start it when it should start. Is it that difficult?

Scoring 4:45 into an arbitrary 5:00 extension isn't lucky or unlucky. It's BS.
World Cup Thread!: 6/23/2014 19:47:31


Timinator • apex 
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They don't stop the clock as in basketball or many other sports, so they add the breaks into extension
World Cup Thread!: 6/23/2014 19:53:03


Addy the Dog 
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the way the weakling yanks were acting, it should have been 10 minutes of extra time. they spent most of the last 20 minutes pausing the game because the genetically inferior americans kept getting cramp. on 90+1 the game stopped for an entire 90 seconds because thats how long it took a subbed american to walk off the pitch.

Edited 6/23/2014 19:53:38
World Cup Thread!: 6/23/2014 20:02:40


[REGL] Pooh 
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Mulva, thank you for proving my point.

See everyone? Even Mulva thinks I'm right in that stoppage time is arbitrary. Your logic (any person is subject to being a genetically inferior people) is patently offensive to about 99% of the world. The remaining 1% are Nazi sympathizers.

If the basis to extend stoppage time derives from the offensive and illogical musings of a simpleton, then its time to introduce a separate stoppage clock that is visible to everyone sooner than 1 minute before the end of the half after it is arbitrarily calculated.
World Cup Thread!: 6/23/2014 20:35:37


Addy the Dog 
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the 90 minutes is also arbitrary, silly billy

srsly though it isn't really arbitrary. it's somewhat arbitrary because it depends on the whim of the 4th official, and i guess the referee if there's compound stoppage time, or if he lets an attack play out.

you cant say okay, there will be 5 minutes of extra time and as soon as the time is up the whistle will blow, and that's because like timinator said, there is no clock pauses like there are in basketball. (and there never will be you stupid yank.) so if you had that, you would probably get players rolling around feigning injury just to run out the clock when they were ahead. boring.

tl;dr football is not an exact science and if somebody scores outside stoppage time that's okay because it's just a fun silly game

it's also a beautiful moment when you're team are losing or drawing but in the ascendancy, and the indicator goes up and there's 5 or 6 minutes of extra time like a gift from heaven, that's enough time. or when you're under pressure and a 3 goes up. yeah we can hold on.

the media here use the phrase "fergie time" which refers to manchester united supposedly being given more added time when they were behind, and less when they were ahead, because of the influence of the (now ex-)manager sir alex ferguson. so a late united equaliser would be said to have been scored in neither normal nor injury time, but the mythical "fergie time".

Edited 6/23/2014 21:01:25
World Cup Thread!: 6/23/2014 20:44:22


Gnullbegg 
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See everyone? Even Mulva thinks I'm right in that stoppage time is arbitrary.


Of course it is. Just about any decision a referee has to make in football is arbitrary to an extend. That's the way this game has been played for one and a half centuries. I'm not saying that's how it should be, but if you want time-stoppage, what about video evidence, time-outs and 2x veto rights per team per half against referee decisions? Somewhere along the way, the game will change.

The USA played a great match yesterday. They fought like hell and turned it around and then they were exhausted. Portugal had the advantage of an early goal for an hour, meaning they didn't have to wear themselves down as much. So the team that 'did more for the game' - the one that 'should have won' - had to concede a last-minute equalizer in the end. Happens all the time actually. Great show nonetheless. That's football.

Oh and I just can't wait for that totally nerve-wrecking 0-0 next monday.
World Cup Thread!: 6/23/2014 21:53:05


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It doesn't seem hard to me to make it known. Why not just stop the clock (the official blows a whistle when he wants it to stop)? What harm is there in that? Or, have a device in his pocket that he presses a button when play is "stopped" and then again when it "starts"? This way the real time is actually displayed. If you want a running clock, fine. If you want it arbitrary (no replays, etc), that is fine too. But shouldn't we be able to actually display the time left (whatever it is)? Why does it have to be secret?

Like balls and strikes in baseball. Sure, it is arbitrary and up to the ump. But it isn't like we don't display the count and the hitter doesn't find out what was a ball or strike until he's called out.

Also, I should note that I am by no means disputing the outcome (whether there was or was not enough time for that play). I'm just saying there is no reason to not have transparency.

Edited 6/23/2014 21:55:42
World Cup Thread!: 6/23/2014 22:04:13


ChrisCMU 
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Gnull, what do you mean about next Monday? Don't you mean Thursday? It will be pretty nerve wracking to have Germany/USA and Portugal/Ghana going at the same time. Though Germany is in a great position, wouldn't be nervous for them. They are basically in no matter what (unless there are huge blowouts).
World Cup Thread!: 6/23/2014 22:25:04


Gnullbegg 
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Yeah, Thursday. For some reason I thought it was on monday. And my guess is it won't be nerve wracking at all. The game will be 80 minutes of "just don't concede a goal" and "I hope I don't get hurt or shown another yellow card". Both teams have little to win and potentially a lot to lose. A draw is a-ok for both.

Edited 6/23/2014 22:25:58
World Cup Thread!: 6/23/2014 22:48:04

Slasher
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Cameroon vs Brazil that Caeroon goalie sucked ass xD. I honestly think Brazil paid the goalie not to touch the ball lol.
World Cup Thread!: 6/23/2014 22:54:46


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FUCK THE WORLD MEXICO MEXICO. 3-1. BITCHEESSSS
World Cup Thread!: 6/24/2014 06:50:07


Aranka 
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Gnullbeg from what I know of Germany is that no matter the standings they are going to give it their all and will certainly not strife to get only a draw. Portugal and Ghana can still both go through if they win that other match, but only if USA concedes multiple goals vs Germany.

I don't see this ghana or this Portugal winning by a large margin

Edit: Thanks for the heads up Brisk

Edited 6/24/2014 14:03:01
World Cup Thread!: 6/24/2014 11:36:33


brisk • apex 
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np

Edited 6/24/2014 15:06:17
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