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Watch out for cheaters - clan #Elite!: 10/8/2012 02:16:24


Guiguzi 
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beebz, many things "don't give you fun," but you "do give me fun."

congrats on winning the tournament named after you (il duce -- not il douche). i made that as a favor for you. you told me you never got any good competition on that map. if you recall, at that time you and sze (and maybe someone else) were having a war of words over who is best. i was not part of the conversation and was not interested in it. but i was dragged into it somehow, being invited to play in tournaments. i had a serious cold and was not interested, but i did say that if you joined another tournament, i'd join the one i made for you. did you join the other one? i don't remember, but i don't think you did. if you did, show the link. but you proved that you are one of the best players on a map with your custom multi-attack settings on an obscure map not normally played as a 1v1 (remember, i used your template for the tournament) that you have played 1500-2500 times and everyone else not in #elite* has probably never played. practice makes perfect.

yes, making it to the championship game is fine. it should be expected though. there weren't many strong teams in the tournament (maybe only 2-4). your own words, however, are further proof that you are not as good as you think you are: "aniway i dont see these my bad moves, you destroyed our advantage with a greater LUCKY SHOT where you have break my bonus 7v5 and you have also lost only 2 armies!!(One chance in a million!!!)....these are not better moves!! ...if this had not happened, probably you would be to be eliminated...." so you think your team's advantage over my team's and your advantage over me was due to one move, a lucky 7v5? i disagree.

(1) your bad moves: your team had a slight advantage. apparently you didn't recognize it. given my positioning, you had a major advantage over me in our battle. if i were you and you were me fighting in the same area, believe me, the game would already be over. what did you do? instead of exploiting my relative weakness, you attacked neutrals to selfishly grow, proving you don't understand how to exploit weakness and seize the moment. what did i do? i expected you to not understand how to beat a better player at the right time, so i just attacked you (the weak attacking the strong, and winning, defies the proper order of things). also, among your options once i outplayed you with my weaker income and troop numbers, you have made the worst possible choices: i was able to protect my ally's bonus with a 2v1 attack in an area you should have deployed troops; then you ran away, afraid to fight me, fearing elimination (if i had the 1 bonus in iraq -- see below -- that bonus you escaped would be mine already too, making your elimination imminent). maybe your limited experience facing elimination forces you to imitate what your weak opponents do against you when you play them on the real-life europe 1v1 multi-attack 1v1 that you so love and few others understand? now do you see that you made mistake after mistake, and the 7v5 attack was only a small part of your being outplayed?

(2) luck: the attacks that mattered were in the 2 bonus, not the 1 bonus where the 7v5 happened. with respect to the 7v5: your team's overall luck is still higher than my team's. this can be proven once the game ends and you can apparently use the stats function to analyze the game. it'll all be there, turn by turn. i got a 7v5 to bust a 1 bonus. so? my other attacks on you were the most successful ones. why did you let me take that 1 bonus the next turn, if you think it is so important? if keeping that 1 bonus meant life or death to you (6 income vs 5 income), why did you let me gain it? luck during first two turns: your team got a 9v6 (to clear tim from the area where you were able to gain an advantage over me) and got a last turn (equal number of moves i think) 4v3 (to gain an advantage elsewhere); a couple turns later my 5v3 against your teammate was unsuccessful. instead of clearing him from iraq to get a 1 bonus, he cleared me the next turn. if i had that 1 bonus i would've gained another two bonuses quicker and the game would be over for sure. instead, your team still has a slight chance to win, but with each passing turn, our advantage grows. so there have been 4 lucky moves: your team won 3, my team won 1. if there were 0 lucky moves or if my team had won half of them, the game would be all but over. so you are lucky to still have a slight chance to win.

if you care, beebz, we can post the game here once it ends and ask people to compare our moves. the only reason why i focus on this game is because the teams are relatively balanced (on paper). our common games are very limited: (a) i had blacklisted you after you joined my teams in 3v3 games and we won only 1 of 3 games against teams i usually beat without you; (b) when sze and myhand were beating your elite teams for having the audacity to call yourselves elite, i was not interested in playing you (i already knew you weren't elite, no matter your name); (c) now you have blacklisted me; and (d) i still have little interest in playing you more than i already have (i only enjoy talking to you because you say such interesting things: "don't give me fun," "everyone who questions me is childish!").
Watch out for cheaters - clan #Elite!: 10/8/2012 02:58:41


Clifford The Big Red Dog 
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At first i didn't even read this thread because i figured it was just another elite noob thread, then when i saw that it had gone of for a week or 2 with so many posts i decided to read it. This thread is ridiculous. You guys are arguing like little children for 51 posts. So what you don't like each other, get over it. Fighting like this is not making warlight any better and it sure isn't getting you 2 to like each other anymore than you already do. Also people are you really laughing at Beelzebub because he doesn't speak the greatest english? More acting like children. Anybody that doesn't like Beelzebub just don't play with him no need to talk about how nobody likes him in this thread that was originally created to alert people cheaters that were also impostors. Illuminati that was really mature of you to apologize, i think that is probably the only mature thing said in this thread.
Watch out for cheaters - clan #Elite!: 10/8/2012 03:24:58


Nyan
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Thread-I have nuthing against chu, so I beseech you, that you may die in peace now. Like, don't bumpity anymore.
Watch out for cheaters - clan #Elite!: 10/8/2012 03:35:16


Guiguzi 
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ryan the high school prophet crusades against ignorance and immaturity, using enlightened righteousness as his weapon. bow down, wl community, to his moral authority! we are but children to the child, naive fools to the naive, laughing stocks to the laughable moralist. fight no more! a war forum should not involve war or even occasional fights! unite! form clans that profess brotherly love! together, we can pioneer a new path of enlightened righteousness! when unsure, ask this simple question: what would ryan do?
Watch out for cheaters - clan #Elite!: 10/8/2012 05:08:12


Clifford The Big Red Dog 
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Thank You Gui, thats exactly what i was thinking. But seriously, what is the point of you continuing to argue with Beelzebub? What is it going to accomplish.
Watch out for cheaters - clan #Elite!: 10/8/2012 06:28:22


Guiguzi 
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one function of the forum: entertainment. beebz is an entertainer. ever talk to him in a game? he is very interesting.

where you see an argument, i see a game.
Watch out for cheaters - clan #Elite!: 10/8/2012 10:59:53


Krzysztof 
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so in a nutshell - are they or aren't they cheaters? :P
Watch out for cheaters - clan #Elite!: 10/8/2012 11:17:36


Wilfred Owen 
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I don't know why you are telling us all this when you can rap about it...
Watch out for cheaters - clan #Elite!: 10/8/2012 21:26:14


Clifford The Big Red Dog 
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@kszyhoo, they are cheaters but they are not actually part of elite, they just added the tag without being allowed into the clan
Watch out for cheaters - clan #Elite!: 10/9/2012 00:18:05


ARC-77 
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Thread over.
Watch out for cheaters - clan #Elite!: 10/9/2012 01:00:10


Master Miyagi • apex 
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Amen.
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