What I ment is that I was never joined in the same time, I had games running on my main, I quit the ladder, join with alt, played with alt, quit with alt and joined with main.

Right, that is what I said. But the issue is if you join with account 2, while you still have games for account 1, you get your matchups with 2 and you can see how a win/loss with 1 might benefit you on 2.

It just really murks things up when you have overlap. I am sure it happens a lot on 2v2 ladder though (people change to new teammate, but finish up ongoing games(s) with old teammate). That is less murky though because with a teammate you are less likely to do something to game the system and just try to win.

I see, my point is I never tried gaming the system

Lets just say he's not trying to game the system. Its the systems fault.

Yes, but I consider playing both on RT cheating. Both are active. In fact, on 7/1 he played the same opponent with both accounts on RT ladder. I don't think that should be allowed at all. There is just too much potential to abuse things. All he has to do is lose on purpose with 1 account to boost the rating of the other. VERY easy.

Edited 7/3/2014 16:33:32

I'll call the police!!

Chris, if the opponent you are talking about is Odin he knew i was playing him twice and expressed no problem. ifnplayin on rt ladder with 2 accs is cheating myself, odin, timi, pulsey, gui are cheaters

Edited 7/3/2014 16:40:47

don't forget gnu and thewarlightmaster

Edited 7/3/2014 17:25:39

It wasn't Odin, did not recognize the name (you can check 7/1). It shouldn't matter what that person thinks, all that matters is what Fizzer wants here. I don't know whether it is cheating or not (again, unless Fizzer gives us some sort of ruling we are speculating his intent...there is gray area in that rule). But, IMO that should not be allowed. I think Fizzer needs to come on here, clear up the confusion, and then everyone can comply from there.

It is especially important on RT ladder where it is very easy to control who you play/do not play.

Edited 7/3/2014 17:29:10

I'll make it simpler, let's substitute the word cheating with manipulating the rating system to get an unfair advantage over other players. In 1v1 and 2v2 ladders games expire so the system itself allows multiple runs 3 months apart, so joining with 2 accounts as long as you do not play each other should be fine, because it is in the constraints of the system. Whether the system should allow that is a whole different thing (hint: it shouldn't). In seasonal ladder and rt ladder it's definitely to your advantage to play separate runs and choose the best one (referring to my previous comment) and since games do not expire it is in the systems intention to not separate your good and bad "runs", thus that should be considered an unfair advantage. The same advantage is in 1v1 and 2v2 ladders, however it shouldn't be considered unfair since it is allowed every 3 months. In rt ladder substracting variation kinda helps, but in seasonal ladder with only 20 games it might be completely gamebreaking if undetected.

my alt just played some low-ranked players to level up faster :/

How would you all feel if I told you I was playing with myself right now?

you can type all the excuses that you want to justify your behavior, at the end of the day you're still making the ladder less fun to play for everyone else. and for that reason you suck.

ps that comment could just as well be directed at fizzer as gnuggles.