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The Warlight Champions League #1: 5/14/2013 21:59:55


[WG] Warlightvet 
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no need to play the 2V2s for our group then =(
The Warlight Champions League #1: 5/17/2013 07:39:40


[WM] Gnuffone 
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http://warlight.net/Profile?p=428551894

TWL is inactive. so what now? we play only 1v1?
The Warlight Champions League #1: 5/18/2013 13:03:39


myhandisonfire 
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the 1on1s in some groups havent even started yet, sze.
What do you plan to do about it?
The Warlight Champions League #1: 5/18/2013 14:20:40


Widzisz • apex 
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And 2vs2s started only in our group.
The Warlight Champions League #1: 5/25/2013 22:50:48


Widzisz • apex 
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Update. Depressing one. Few things should be discussed now, if we want to keep this alive, even more since Carl is inactive.

Group I: nothing have started yet
Place  |  Player           		| Wins  |  Losses 
  1-4  | Luxis • apex		  	|   0   |    0
  1-4  | JUPITER ♦ ReLite ♦ 		|   0   |    0
  1-4  | [WM] Anonymous          	|   0   |    0
  1-4  | Timinator              	|   0   |    0

Everything waiting for Timinator to join. Why Timi, why?

Group J: 2vs2 spoiled, 1vs1 RR ended.
Place  |  Player           		| Wins  |  Losses 
   1   | dreuj		  		|   3   |    0
   2   | [WG] dodo comander 		|   2   |    1
   3   | [WG] Warlightvet          	|   1   |    2
   4   | Yoshi              		|   0   |    3

Yoshi surrendered / declined everything. Guess that means no 2vs2 here, dreuj and dodo advance.

Group K: nothing have started yet
Place  |  Player           		| Wins  |  Losses 
  1-4  | [WM] Gnuffone		  	|   0   |    0
  1-4  | fatality 			|   0   |    0
  1-4  | lobstrosity          		|   0   |    0
  1-4  | TheWarlightMaster              |   0   |    0

TheWarlightMaster inactive since a while. Make RR just for 3 players?

Group L: one 1vs1 and two 2vs2 games in progress.
Place  |  Player           		| Wins  |  Losses 
  1-2  | myhandisonfire		  	|   3   |    0
  1-2  | Widzisz • apex  		|   3   |    0
   3   | Frankdeslimste • apex          |   1   |    3
   4   | [WM] Featherbucket             |   0   |    4

myhandisonfire and me advance to next round, regardless remaining games.


Many declines / surrenders here, guess that's party because of the templates.

Carl is inactive, hope he get back, but this thing need a host to work, now. Any volunteers? Just to finish this season, I can do next one, but right now I'm participating, so that could be unfair.

What with current round? I think games / tournaments already created should be played out, the sooner the better.

Some changes for next (or even current) seasons I was thinking about:

• Joining deadlines.
Games / tournaments for 2nd round were created 18 days ago! 3 day deadline to join is more than enough.
There should be some penalties for exceeding it, like -1 point per one day, 3 days late = removed from the league. Not sure what with vacations here.

• Templates.
I don't like the idea of host picking templates. My idea: Host of the league should provide few templates, and each participant can propose one for 1vs1 and one for 2vs2, up to 3 days before the league start.
Later players vote for the templates, having 5 points to assign in both 1vs1 and 2vs2. Voting lasts only 3 days.
Top 3 are going to be used in rounds 1-3, host pick which one when.
Probably something similar for final round.

• Reserve?
Some groups are spoiled by one player inactive or not participating. Should we add a reserve?
In 1st round that would mean players willing to join the league, in next rounds players that were 3rd in previous round (first come first served). Reserve players would have to join in 2 days after being invited.
The Warlight Champions League #1: 5/26/2013 08:27:31


[WM] Gnuffone 
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i decline 2v2 for clear menu games bc TWL is inactive anyway, so 2v2 can't start anyway. i agree in all your point. and if template get picked by vote from partecipants is much better.
The Warlight Champions League #1: 5/27/2013 18:59:56


[WG] Warlightvet 
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i hate how for me it was decided in 1 game, if i didn't beat dodo i had 0 chance of winning (if i won against dreuj i'd still be rank 3) :'(
obviously it would have been the same for dodo if i had beaten him

which is why i let him win
whyyy don't you believe me? ::((((
The Warlight Champions League #1: 5/27/2013 19:55:33


[WM] Anonymous 
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Where is Timinator? We didn't even joined the games because of him. Anybody has news about him? I hope he didn't end like Dr.Type..
The Warlight Champions League #1: 5/28/2013 21:53:17


Mike |GG| 
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So can we just go with it and start our games Timi?
The Warlight Champions League #1: 5/30/2013 14:33:15


myhandisonfire 
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I am okay if widzisz being host, despite him participating, if nobody else volunteers to do it instead.
His arguments were are all reasonable and i believe the league will be in good hands with him.
The Warlight Champions League #1: 5/30/2013 16:16:38


Widzisz • apex 
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i decline 2v2 for clear menu games bc TWL is inactive anyway, so 2v2 can't start anyway. i agree in all your point. and if template get picked by vote from partecipants is much better.

I figured out why you declined. Glad you agree with my points Gnuffone.
Where is Timinator? We didn't even joined the games because of him. Anybody has news about him? I hope he didn't end like Dr.Type..

There is no information about inactivity on his profile. I invited him to a game few days ago, still no response. I told him he have time till tomorrow, I will create new tournament if he won't join by then. Today I will make one for group K. (1vs1 RR with 3 players, no reserve this time, since that would be unfair: rules should stay the same during one round)
I am okay if widzisz being host, despite him participating, if nobody else volunteers to do it instead.
His arguments were are all reasonable and i believe the league will be in good hands with him.

Thanks myhandisonfire, I really appreciate your support. Point is, if I participate I can't pick templates myself obviously. And I do think this season host should pick the templates (hopefully not shitty ones). Next round we have 8 players, so voting doesn't make much sense I think, and I have no templates prepared for voting right now anyway.
If no one volunteers till Sunday (02.06) I will pick templates myself, and maybe retreat from the league.
The Warlight Champions League #1: 5/30/2013 16:35:27


[WM] Gnuffone 
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ok. I think is better play commmon tempalte and don't do like sze with this strange tempalte
The Warlight Champions League #1: 5/30/2013 17:27:45


Widzisz • apex 
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Group K 1vs1 RR redone:
http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=4932

Only change is Vardar Valley is 0 not 6. It was Carl's mistake, but it shouldn't matter.
Please, join fast.
(btw, you can now freely decline all 2vs2 games / 1vs1 tournament made by Carl)
As said previously, tomorrow about same time I will create one for Group I, if Timinator won't say anything.

ok. I think is better play commmon tempalte and don't do like sze with this strange tempalte

New template mean everyone is in the same situation, whereas choosing i.e. template from CLOT 1vs1 Greece ladder mean some guys have much more experience, right Gnuffone? :P
But I haven't really decided about this yet.
The Warlight Champions League #1: 5/30/2013 17:36:30


[WM] Gnuffone 
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nope the point is that if you put new stting, no one will join asap, and all will try to practice with new setting for a lot of time, this is bad.
The Warlight Champions League #1: 5/30/2013 17:53:12


Widzisz • apex 
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Yes, but if we agree to do like I said in my post (26.05) in the section about deadlines, they will have 3 days to join, later they will get negative points.
I would like this rule apply since next (3rd) round.

Anyway, tournament had one mistake, here is good link:

Group K 1vs1 RR redone:
http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=4934

One issue I would like to discuss: vacations. I have no idea what to do about them. Not sure how it should affect join deadline and stuff. Waiting to hear your opinions guys.
The Warlight Champions League #1: 5/31/2013 19:03:55


Widzisz • apex 
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Fortunately Timinator joined games and tournament made by Carl, no need to make a new one.
The Warlight Champions League #1: 5/31/2013 22:39:42


Frankdeslimste • apex 
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All he needed was a swift kick in the butt.
The Warlight Champions League #1: 6/4/2013 15:46:08


Timinator • apex 
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Frank took a kick in his own butt aswell :P
The Warlight Champions League #1: 6/9/2013 13:01:26


myhandisonfire 
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Could you make a new update widzisz maybe?
The Warlight Champions League #1: 6/9/2013 18:37:41


Widzisz • apex 
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Sure I can maybe.
Update.
Group I: In progress, guess it will take a while.
Place  |  Player           		| Wins  |  Losses 
  1-3  | Luxis • apex		  	|   1   |    1
  1-3  | JUPITER ♦ ReLite ♦ 		|   1   |    1
  1-3  | [WM] Anonymous          	|   1   |    1
   4   | Timinator              	|   0   |    0

Group J: FINISHED
Place  |  Player           		| Wins  |  Losses 
   1   | dreuj		  		|   2   |    0
   2   | [WG] dodo comander 		|   1   |    1
   3   | [WG] Warlightvet          	|   0   |    2

Dreuj and [WG] Dodo comander advance.

Group K: FINISHED
Place  |  Player           		| Wins  |  Losses 
   1   | fatality		  	|   2   |    0
   2   | [WM] Gnuffone 			|   1   |    1
   3   | lobstrosity          		|   0   |    2

Fatality and [WM] Gnuffone advance.

Group L: FINISHED
Place  |  Player           		| Wins  |  Losses 
   1   | Widzisz • apex		  	|   5   |    1
   2   | myhandisonfire 		|   4   |    2
   3   | Frankdeslimste • apex          |   2   |    4
   4   | [WM] Featherbucket             |   1   |    5

Widzisz • apex and myhandisonfire advance.
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