Gnuffone, again, same question, why you think so? Why you think they are better than some of apex, WM, AHoL, WL or other clans?

Relite can give arguably the best clan in WL a run for their money.

Hedja, I see no reason to believe that it's impossible for REGL to do the same. Yes, WM challenge results say something about Relite player's skills, but league scores are far more reliable. And Relite have no rating here yet.

JSA, imagine Promotion/Relegation league, where new players get voted where they should start to play. I don't think I would like to play there, that kills the idea of the league.

Also, just to clarify: I may sound a bit harsh for Relite, but it's not intentional, my language skills aren't as good as I would like them to be. I played with some of them, the ones I know well are rather good players.
I never said they don't belong to top 3 (or top X). I simply don't know why I should think they are better or worse than given clan or not. Maybe they are the best clan, maybe they are worse than XYZ clan: I don't know.

The rules should be the same for each clan, each new clan should be put in the lowest group. If we decide to put Relite in group A, the same problem will appear on and on in next seasons. I really don't like that voting idea, I don't think it's good for reputation of this league. Obviously C.

Hedja, I see no reason to believe that it's impossible for REGL to do the same. Yes, WM challenge results say something about Relite player's skills, but league scores are far more reliable. And Relite have no rating here yet.

REGL players still have a lot of improving to do, we are good, but not great, especially not consistently. Also Relite were not formed last season, which is why they have no rating.

JSA, imagine Promotion/Relegation league, where new players get voted where they should start to play.

This is one clan, because from things you can see elsewhere it is obvious that they are one of the best clans in warlight. Most clans are not good enough to have a good chance at winning Group A in their first season, so would be ok to start in Group C.

THere's a big difference between the clan league and the promotional league. THe Promotion/REglation league was made for players to move around, the clan league was formed to put the top clans against each other and see how it goes. I think you make a good point, but I still am in favor of them advancing to Group A just because it makes more sense to me. And as for reputation, I don't care what nonclan people think about this league, I only care whether the competitors are enjoying it or not.

Hedja, right now it is just one clan but Widzisz is right, in the future there could be more. But you are also right that very few clans would even be considered for this.

Also, I would like to let the clan leaders know to go ahead and get your clan teams together, either make a game with me or post on here when your lineups are ready. A reminder for the settings: Strategic 1v1, East Asia & Oceania 2v2, and Europe 3v3(same settings as last season).

I vote for C.

JSA, how many of each entry do we need (how many 1v1ers, 2v2ers etc.)

He said:

4 1vs1
2 2vs2
1 3vs3

I withdraw my vote. let the others decide. i decided i don't want to have anything to do with it.

Okay, looks like its 2-2 right now, I'll give people 22 more hours to vote on it, then we'll know the leagues for everyone.

Well I suppose, as REGL's leader, I should weigh in. I do believe that REGL belongs in Group A, but that there's no reason for us to be there this season. We are better than WG and CPU (in my opinion) but we didn't prove that this season, so there's no reason we should be "given" a spot in A. Also, Relight has shown in countless other games and tournaments that they are one of the top teams in the game, and as this season is the first to have actual divisions, I think they should be given the spot over REGL. Do not worry, we will earn our spot in A by showing our skill in the game.

TL:DR REGL is good enough to be in A but hasn't shown that over the first two seasons. I would rather REGL earn their place through skill than be given a spot based on perception or pity.

I"ll join if i get to represent RSP alone and i get to be in Group C.

Falcon, no clan can be represented by one person. You have to have at least 4 people to participate or else it is not a clan. No exceptions.

alright, but if i get the team can RSP be in group C?

@aranka: instead of pointlessly debating with piggy whether WM or relite is the better clan, can you please play the 3v3 eu tourney game? Thanks. I personally think WM is better, with the exception of Mannerheim and Jupiter, but whatevs.

Falcon, 4 of yourself doesn't count, please find 4 real players and play with them

If a member of the clan in question is allowed to vote, then I vote that ReLite be put in group A. Personally, my only motivation to participate would be playing against other teams of equal skill. This obviously means group A.

hedja is right falcon! you cant just make 4 accounts and join by yourself!

Here, i'll join you. thats 2 players.

I'll ask our clan leader, {RSP}Green to come out of retirement. Let me call him.

ergh, agressive said his account still lags, so hes out.
I think Christian should join us. He's a new member and just doesnt have the tag! and he's a multi-millionaire!
I'll find another person to join us 3, falcon and christian.

sorry if i answer only now, but i was busy.
now i exaplin why ReLite should play on Group A.
It's like games theory in economy. If we decide to vote for A, than we'll be accused of abetting unfair behaviours and other clans may came up claming their own spot in league A, just because Relite did the same.
on the other hand, if we vote C, aranka and her crowd will say that we are afraid of playing with them.
ReLite show they skill, they have 2 top player like ciekiu and jupiter, and some other very good player. look 2v2 ladder and match of challenge WM-relite
and not accuse of abet for relite, i have on my BL 2/3 relite guys because they play bad.
and for sure are better then other clan like CPU or REGL.

I think Pushover the main problem for Apex and WM here in the case they didn't allow a wild card for Relite to enter team A is that even if they manage to win this season questions will still remain "WHAT IF"
Now all 3 clans possibly have chances at the start to win group A and WM and Apex (if Relite is not included in team A) will fight for that, but at the end can't really say that by this tourney it has been proven that they are indeed the best.

is just a game, and i agree on what fridge say, we are not afraid for sure... this is a bad thought aranka, really bad.

@widzisz, is different from promotion/relegation cup imho.

Eagle - in other words .. better to win in group B and get promoted into A, and then likely get relegated, than get a BYE to A just to get relegated at first attempt?

For promotions and reglations, I don't think it should be always 2 clans go up and 2 go down. I think it should be 1 always goes up and 1 always goes down and then between the 2nd worst clan in Group A and second best in Group B, they should have some games to determine who is in Group A and who is in Group B.

It's like games theory in economy. If we decide to vote for A, than we'll be accused of abetting unfair behaviours and other clans may came up claming their own spot in league A, just because Relite did the same.
on the other hand, if we vote C, aranka and her crowd will say that we are afraid of playing with them.

Hey, if you steal my quotes, please put credits! lol