Falcon, no clan can be represented by one person. You have to have at least 4 people to participate or else it is not a clan. No exceptions.

alright, but if i get the team can RSP be in group C?

@aranka: instead of pointlessly debating with piggy whether WM or relite is the better clan, can you please play the 3v3 eu tourney game? Thanks. I personally think WM is better, with the exception of Mannerheim and Jupiter, but whatevs.

Falcon, 4 of yourself doesn't count, please find 4 real players and play with them

If a member of the clan in question is allowed to vote, then I vote that ReLite be put in group A. Personally, my only motivation to participate would be playing against other teams of equal skill. This obviously means group A.

hedja is right falcon! you cant just make 4 accounts and join by yourself!

Here, i'll join you. thats 2 players.

I'll ask our clan leader, {RSP}Green to come out of retirement. Let me call him.

ergh, agressive said his account still lags, so hes out.
I think Christian should join us. He's a new member and just doesnt have the tag! and he's a multi-millionaire!
I'll find another person to join us 3, falcon and christian.

sorry if i answer only now, but i was busy.
now i exaplin why ReLite should play on Group A.
It's like games theory in economy. If we decide to vote for A, than we'll be accused of abetting unfair behaviours and other clans may came up claming their own spot in league A, just because Relite did the same.
on the other hand, if we vote C, aranka and her crowd will say that we are afraid of playing with them.
ReLite show they skill, they have 2 top player like ciekiu and jupiter, and some other very good player. look 2v2 ladder and match of challenge WM-relite
and not accuse of abet for relite, i have on my BL 2/3 relite guys because they play bad.
and for sure are better then other clan like CPU or REGL.

I think Pushover the main problem for Apex and WM here in the case they didn't allow a wild card for Relite to enter team A is that even if they manage to win this season questions will still remain "WHAT IF"
Now all 3 clans possibly have chances at the start to win group A and WM and Apex (if Relite is not included in team A) will fight for that, but at the end can't really say that by this tourney it has been proven that they are indeed the best.

is just a game, and i agree on what fridge say, we are not afraid for sure... this is a bad thought aranka, really bad.

@widzisz, is different from promotion/relegation cup imho.

Eagle - in other words .. better to win in group B and get promoted into A, and then likely get relegated, than get a BYE to A just to get relegated at first attempt?

For promotions and reglations, I don't think it should be always 2 clans go up and 2 go down. I think it should be 1 always goes up and 1 always goes down and then between the 2nd worst clan in Group A and second best in Group B, they should have some games to determine who is in Group A and who is in Group B.

It's like games theory in economy. If we decide to vote for A, than we'll be accused of abetting unfair behaviours and other clans may came up claming their own spot in league A, just because Relite did the same.
on the other hand, if we vote C, aranka and her crowd will say that we are afraid of playing with them.

Hey, if you steal my quotes, please put credits! lol

Hey, if you steal my quotes, please put credits! lol

sorry, :P
yeah i copy/paste this sentence, Red write it.

JSA; ! disagree. There should be a guarantee of two clans changing divisions; to prevent monotony and increase interest.

Anyway, i think the best decision for WM is to just sit and watch. We don't want to say A or C, we don't want get in this stuff which could be use against us in the future. Do what you (people, or JSA) want, we will accept any decision.

If we are going to vote on where ReLite should be, we should limit it to 1 vote per clan (the leader). Otherwise it won't be a fair vote. I think I can safely say [WG] feels ReLite should be in A.

Also, keep in mind this is the first season using this format of divisions. So we are setting the precedent. This needs to be kept in mind for future clans. Either we always vote them into a spot (1 vote per clan I say). OR we always put them in lowest division. That way it is consistent.

After giving this some more thought, I think Relite deserves Group A, but it will happen in the future with other clans as well and the debates will take time for each clan. So to save time now and in the future, I'm just going to say we put all new clans in the lowest group every season, sorry Relite, but you guys will be in Group A in a couple seasons anyway. End of debate, the groups will look like this:

Group A:
Apex
WM
AHoL
WL
CPU
WG
REGL

Group B:
Warlighters
FBG
VIW
MC
101st
TUC
Dragon

Group C:
KK
Relite
RP?
BR?
SNinja?
FCC?
T-Bird?
UN?
SI?
DARK?
CZ-SK?

SoL ^ I believe there quite an active clan.

Yeah, thats true. I will make games with all the new clans and see if they want to play. IT'd be nice if most of the clan leaders could make a game with me so I don't have to make 25+ games but I'll make a game with you anyways once I figure out all the clans that are playing.

Group C is fair enough for us. We will put 11 different players into this challenge.
As i noticed from previous discusion games are gonna be:
- 4 x 1v1
- 2 x 2v2
- 1 x 3v3
That gives 11.

I agree with the 2 clans moving up/down each season. It would promote interest better and make groupings less stagnant as well.