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Europe + Colonies 1618: 3/16/2015 21:04:50


Жұқтыру
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Yeah, I'm sure of it.

I've no idea why Izmir gets the dot more often, but, oh well.
Europe + Colonies 1618: 3/16/2015 21:05:29


Aldehyde
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missing connections between:

Stuttgart and Kempten in Southern Holy Roman Empire just north of Zurich
Hof and Bamberg just west of Prague.
Holyatyn, Ustrzyki which is south of Lviv.
Mahilyow and Zaharanki west of Minsk.
Polatli and Derbent southwest of Ankara.
additional connection between Mažeikiai and Vainode.

Edited 3/16/2015 21:24:25
Europe + Colonies 1618: 3/16/2015 23:51:15


zxctycxz [Ollie Bye] 
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Tyrcae, it's because the Turkish language was in a more Arabic form in writing until the demise of the Ottoman Empire and the creation the Republic of Turkey in the 1920s. Ataturk, I think he was called, reformed the nation, including changing how Turkish was written over to a Latin alphabet. There are many sounds that exist in the spoken language of Turkish that don't in European languages, so various symbols had to be created to account for this. The large I with a dot is one of them.
Europe + Colonies 1618: 3/17/2015 08:31:55


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I m Turkish, dont teach me it , this is a frustrating situation, it seems weird for me , Turkish and English words in same sentence. lol.so if you did mean as you said dont use of! "of" is not Turkish or Arabic am i wrong.
use it as ex: Karaman Eyaleti,Rumelia Eyaleti Cyprus Eyaleti etc . this is more Turkish than

you are so rude

Edited 3/17/2015 11:00:09
Europe + Colonies 1618: 3/17/2015 12:07:46


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What about Bağçasaray in Crimea? Bağçasaray is an inland town not coastal. Its place what you call Agyar, and Agyar is the coastal town, because it is the tartar name of Sevastopol. So you should just exchange Bağçasaray and Agyar.

And if Agyar is the naval center it would be more ideal for waterway than Baliklava wich means in tartar just fishing coast.
Europe + Colonies 1618: 3/17/2015 13:30:19


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Aqyar at this point was just a placename, later the Crimean name for Sevastopol, when it was founded in the late 1700s.

Balaklava has existed for quite a while, although a small town.

Bağçasaray should be moved more inland, I agree, though.
Europe + Colonies 1618: 3/17/2015 18:06:04

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About Turkey btw, Istanbul wasnt yet the official name of that city, am I right?
It was still Constantinople or Kostantiniyye in Turkish...
Europe + Colonies 1618: 3/17/2015 18:50:14


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angry panda :S false information .İstanbul is İstanbul since 1453

Edited 3/17/2015 18:51:24
Europe + Colonies 1618: 3/17/2015 20:28:46


zxctycxz [Ollie Bye] 
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Angry Panda:
The City has had multiple names throughout its lifetime.
It was originally called Byzantium under Classical Greco-Roman cultures until 330 CE, when Emperor Constantine renamed it Constantinople. It kept this name until the Ottoman conquest of the city in 1453, when it was renamed Constantinople. It retains this name today.

Tycae, if you want to be offended then fine, but I'm not being rude. Plus, I don't really get your point, but if you want to talk about the names of territories in general, speak with Жұқтыру, because he's the one who's provided names for most of them.
Europe + Colonies 1618: 3/17/2015 21:13:11

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Tyrcae:

Kostantiniyye (Arabic القسطنطينية, al-Qusṭanṭiniyah, Ottoman Turkish قسطنطينيه Kostantiniyye) is the name by which the city came to be known in the Islamic world. It is an Arabic calqued form of Constantinople, with an Arabic ending meaning 'place of' instead of the Greek element -polis. After the Ottoman conquest of 1453, it was used as the most formal official name in Ottoman Turkish, and remained in use throughout most of the time up to the fall of the Empire in 1923.

Istanbul was the common name for the city in normal speech in Turkish even before the conquest of 1453, but in official use by the Ottoman authorities other names, such as Kostantiniyye, were preferred in certain contexts.



So, Istanbul wasnt the official name of that city until 1923. Kostantiniyye/Constantinople is more appropriate.

Edited 3/17/2015 21:14:21
Europe + Colonies 1618: 3/17/2015 23:55:25


zxctycxz [Ollie Bye] 
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Nice work Panda, I'll change it to Kostantiniyye.
Europe + Colonies 1618: 3/18/2015 00:58:07


AlternateHistoryGuy
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Just looked at the map. Is it finished?
Europe + Colonies 1618: 3/18/2015 01:17:28


Жұқтыру
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I say change it to Constantinople.

Otherwise, go and change Belgrade to Belgrad, Jerusalem to Sum, and some others.

It was known as Constantinople in the English-speaking world.
Europe + Colonies 1618: 3/18/2015 01:55:37


zxctycxz [Ollie Bye] 
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I really should go to sleep now - I'll get onto that tomorrow.

And yes, it's finished, I'll just set the test game up before I go.
Europe + Colonies 1618: 3/18/2015 02:02:44


zxctycxz [Ollie Bye] 
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I couldn't find a couple of you, maybe you changed your names, I don't know.
Europe + Colonies 1618: 3/18/2015 15:19:39


Tyrcae
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Agnry : this is original text :

"Bu dönemde şehrin ismi "Poli" (şehir) de oldu. Osmanlı'da da ilk dönem belgelerinde a-sitan, i-stan (osmanlı alfabesi ile استان olarak geçti. i-stan güzellikler diyarı anlamına gelir. Son dönem belgelerinde (osmanlı alfabesi ile استانبول ise a-stan-bol, i-stan-bul olarak geçti."

Turks didnt use Kostantiniyye.Turks called it as Istanbul in all time.
There wasnt a offical law in old time, Padişah's didnt use a written law
they saids was law.You can not expect a foreign name the capital of the Ottoman. you saids available for colloquially.it approveded and it was a province of new Turkey at 1923.if you're going to continue to do this, i will not say anything.

zxctycxz

fix edirne ;ferecik and vasilikoz

ferecik and vasilikoz arn't a provinces of Turkey they have to be in Grecee

and stop discrimination. you cant see world on your eyes .there are some realities

keep live in your dreamworld

i m out

Edited 3/18/2015 16:29:12
Europe + Colonies 1618: 3/18/2015 17:44:39


Жұқтыру
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Disregard what that drama prince said; Constantinople was the most formal name.
Europe + Colonies 1618: 3/18/2015 18:34:31

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yep true Juq, Constantinople in English, as all the (big) cities you added in your map are in English (Athens, Moscow etc etc)
Europe + Colonies 1618: 3/18/2015 21:36:08


zxctycxz [Ollie Bye] 
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Tyrcae, if you're going to start saying I'm discriminating against Turkish people, then you're really not being helpful, okay? Ederne and Ferecik are in the correct location within the Rumelia Eyalet.

Edited 3/18/2015 21:36:17
Europe + Colonies 1618: 3/19/2015 13:54:02


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Edited 3/19/2015 14:28:46
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