The life struggle is real.

A serious young man found the conflicts of mid 20th Century America
confusing. He went to many people seeking a way of resolving within
himself the discords that troubled him, but he remained troubled.

One night in a coffee house, a self-ordained Zen Master said to him, “Go to
the dilapidated mansion you will find at this address which I have written
down for you. Do not speak to those who live there; you must remain silent
until the moon rises tomorrow night. Go to the large room on the right of the
main hallway, sit in the lotus position on top of the rubble in the northeast
corner, face the corner, and meditate.”

He did as the Zen Master instructed. His meditation was frequently
interrupted by worries. He worried whether or not the rest of the plumbing
fixtures would fall from the second floor bathroom to join the pipes and
other trash he was sitting on. He worried how he would know when the
moon rose on the next night. He worried about what the people who walked
through the room said about him.

His worrying and meditation were disturbed when, as if in a test of his faith,
ordure fell from the second floor onto him. At that time two people walked
into the room. The first asked the second who the man sitting there was. The
second replied “Some say he is a holy man. Others say he is a shithead.”

Hearing this, the man was enlightened.

And noone cares, you are still an ass and leave now.

*zing*

Edited 7/24/2015 02:20:01

About your example.
Also, just admit it. Saying sorry improves your reputation.

RA RA RA, WELCOME RA RA RA.... RA RA RA RA RA RA RA... RA RA RA RA RA... hey everybody, let's say RA RA RA... RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA... Everybody raise your hands up and repeat RA RA RA RA RA RA RA... Now sit down and chant RA RA RA RA RA RA RA.... Close your eyes and shout RA RA RA RA RA RA RA... Clear your throat and scream RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA RA

*don't do this if you have sore throat
*also, you ought to do this passionately in order to feel the miraculous effect

Edited 7/24/2015 02:31:33

^ I feel like he got hacked.

I can just imagine Shakira singing that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-7knsP2n5w

@Ben:

or he could just be on RA's side, or RA's alt

Edited 7/24/2015 03:00:28

@Ra
You lost, everybody hates you, your map will fail, just accept it and move on

Edit: Wait, this is map of the week?
I call hax

Edited 7/24/2015 04:26:44

You lost, everybody hates you, your map will fail, just accept it and move on

Nothing to lose, Wrong, and it's one map (not even an original ar that.) of his many MANY fantastic maps.

Also, lmao at the newfags in this thread.

Nothing to lose, Wrong, and it's one map (not even an original ar that.) of his many MANY fantastic maps.

Nothing to lose? He lost this. The community is favored against him.
It's one map.... one map which the community will not play.... it will fail

You do realize he released this map like a side project? Probably wasn't even a big deal till the Salt festival rolled into town.

>He lost this

W-w-w-wow, you s-sure got me!

here comes the fanboy

Lawlz you have no real argument. I'll say it again, the community took a look at this situation and decided to favor fridge.
In fact it looks like you're the only person supporting RA on this issue.

@Epicular

I don't support what he did, I disagree with the reddit-tier replies in this thread, especially from you and Thomas. The only reasonable people to who given good reasoning are Kynte, ChrisCMU, and maybe a few others. There is no denying he made a mistake, but you kids blew it way past that and turned it into "wahhh I don't like him anymore because of one bad choice! Ban him, remove his trophy!"

@Sepiroth

Didn't mean to trigger you :^)

New name Fridge?

I never changed ;D

Ok, this thread has gone from a reasonable concern to an absolute mess. At this point, it's up to Fizzer whether he wants to remove the map, or keep it. Since he hasn't bothered to respond or delete the map at this point, I believe he has accepted it as a legitimate map. I'm fine with people upvoting/downvoting the map. I still personally believe that Fridge should deserve all the credit for the map save for the publishing, which is still under RA's name. But all the sucking up and arguments in this thread not even related to the subject at hand are not needed and not welcome.

The thread was designed to raise awareness to RA stealing Fridge's map. I don't think stealing is a strong word: both maps are pretty much identical. Fridge had been working on it for a year, and never got around to publishing it. The thread started off with good ideas: sanctioning the map, downvoting it, etc. But now it seems to have just become a competition to see how people outdo others in posting radical and hateful messages. The sheer stupidity of this thread can be pretty much summed up by the quotes below. Not going to name the people I have quoted here, but it's going to be pretty easy to find them regardless...


"You lost, everybody hates you, your map will fail, just accept it and move on"

"RA has been given 'Trophy: Create a beautiful map'. I propose to take it back from him as a punishment for thivery and absolute lack of any remorses."

"And noone cares, you are still an ass and leave now."


First of all, he had already earned the trophy for creating great maps, far before this. I was kind of annoyed that RA made a ton of alts to upvote a map the community felt should have been rated lower. But with all the unnecessary whining, hateful comments, and idiocy mentioned above, I don't even mind that he lowered the. I just wish you could flag or report comments such as the ones above, so I wouldn't have to see such flawed posts. As for the last one, the comment is so ironic, I almost laughed. That comment is so unneeded that it just makes the author the bigger asshole.

Another thing: people don't even have things to argue. Lately people have been posting contradicting opinions for the sake of argument, or just to get attention. See Page 7 for proof, which unfortunately may not remain the last page of this thread for long. There are plenty other social media sites where you can hide behind a probably fake profile and spout random nonsense.


here comes the fanboy

You mean the fanboys, this thread was already populated by suck-ups trying to get specific attention.
Example? Here's one:

"Yup, joining the bandwagon of people who are dissing this map. From the weaksauce creator of this game: Note: If you're writing something negative, please keep it constructive and explain your reasoning.. I got an idea. How about making your own map? Also its not that great a map anyway, still would have only got three."


Bullshit, if Fridge had made it, you'd probably rate it a 5 and gush over how amazing the map was. It is is a great map no matter the creator, and lying through your teeth to seem favorable to the popular opinion is just pathetic. The fact that you'd list yourself as "joining the bandwagon" is already in itself a valid point to just disregard anything after that phrase.

If Ra had just handled it a little better, Fridge wouldn't have been so salty


Fridge already stated what he would have found to be an acceptable way of notifying him that his map as being copied. If I spent so much time on creating a good map only to find it copied by another player, I'd be pretty pissed as well. Not to mention anyone else with half a sense of pride.

Essentially, you see a lot of butt-kissing which is evident from the comments paraphrasing or implying the same opinions already voiced by others but with more bias towards one party, or trying to make one side appear more justifiable than the other. Again, not needed and not wanted. And even though sucking-up already looks stupid, you can always voice support for the person you favor without slandering the other. Doing both just makes you appear pretentious.





TL;DR - Don't argue for the sake of arguing and deferring to popular opinion without formulating your own opinion and reasons for it first. It just makes you look like an idiot.

Thanks,
AWESOMEGUY


@WM TheBox-Box-Box-Box-Box-Box, Fridge actually made the map, so you're also copying from him. What a hypocrite...

You're right, my bad :l

WM [boxes] is actually Fridge. Check his name history.