and again, English isn't dominant everywhere particularly in Ireland, Gaeltacht.

And why is Wallonia still part of it, there is almost no people speaking Germanic languages either.

Yeah angry is right english isnt used in all of Ireland. In The gaeltachts they only speak irish as their primary language and some have no english to little english.

Wallonians for example are Gallo-Romanic Germanic people just as the Flemish but speak a romance language instead with a considerable amount of Germanic influences in their language.

Diè wåde ?

(means goodbye in Wallon) (corresponds to Diè wah in Limburgian, a Dutch dialect)

Then as I said earlier, the solution is easy: change the name of this map, and put "Nations where Germanic languages are dominant". But as for now the current title is irrelevant as it does not show the regions where every Germanic language is spoken. And about Alsace, it is just omitting 600.000 (for the lowest estimations) to 1 million people speaking Alsatian a real Germanic language quite close to German actually.

That title is to long, not to mention much less cool than "European Germanic Languages". If you can provide a more compact, cooler version, I'll consider changing.

BTW Here's the latest version wallonia has been removed):

https://www.warlight.net/Play?PreviewMap=56280

Edited 5/11/2016 14:28:38

Hey thanks :) I may do that for my next project; I'm not sure how well it would do critically Though ("Oh noes waaaaa too many euro maps waaaa").

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/03/Legal_statuses_of_German_in_Europe.svg

Ah, I was wrong about Welsh and Gaelic, but anyhow, still should add in Südtirol. As for the Irish lands, they're really too small to matter. Also, you shouldn't add in Alsace - less than half even know Alsatian.

well it is still more or less half of the Alsatians, and since official ethical/racial/linguistic surveys are actually forbidden in France, it is rather hard to get an actual number, but it goes from 600.000 for the lowest estimation to 1.5 million for the highest (counting here Alsatians also living outside of Alsace), and Alsace has 2 million inhabitants. I still do not see why Alsace isn't added whereas some places in Finland are (like you added Vasa in Finland where only 24% of the population actually speak Swedish...), or some places in Ireland or Wales where English is not even dominant. Still many inconsistencies that could be resolved easily.

I'll add South Tyrol.

Even worse for Abö (or Turku its more widely used name) that you added here since only 5,2% actually speak Swedish...

I added those parts of finland because juq insisted, but I'm putting my foot down now. And as I've already pointed out (and as you admit to), most people in alsace don't speak alsatian.

official ethical/racial/linguistic surveys are actually forbidden in France, it is rather hard to get an actual number

In 1999, NISES did a big tongue poll of the whole country.

Quant aux langues régionales, leur pratique est moins répandue mais dépasse le niveau de la retransmission familiale. L’alsacien compte environ 548 000 locuteurs adultes, l’occitan 526000, le breton 304000, les langues d’oïl 204 000, le catalan 132 000, le corse 122 000, le platt lorrain 78 000 et le basque 44 000, autant de langues qui se pratiquent souvent entre adultes sans être retransmises aux enfants.

http://www.ined.fr/fichier/s_rubrique/18724/pop_et_soc_francais_376.fr.pdf (p. 4)

550k of total speakers is still less than half of 1700k million (pop. Alsace in 1999).

Abö (or Turku its more widely used name) that you added here since only 5,2% actually speak Swedish...

Åbo* is the Swedish (Germanic) name for it.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/92/Languages_of_Finnish_municipalities_%282009%29.svg

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600.000 to 1.5M considering Alsace has 2M inhabitants, it isn't really correct hence to say "most people don't speak Alsatian". And if you just count with minorities then remove the territories of Finland where way less people speak Swedish. If you just want to listen to Juq, that's all right, but then your map will remain wrong and irrelevant particularly with the title you chose. And if an Alsatian was seeing your map he would be rather offended.

"Most" implies that there is a majority, so saying that "Most people in alsace don't speak alsatian" is perfectly accurate.

Åbo* is the Swedish (Germanic) name for it.

Whatever its name is, only 5,2% speak Swedish, it should not be in this map if Alsace which has a huge majority or minority (depending on the survey and poll) isn't there either.

600.000 to 1.5M considering Alsace has 2M inhabitants

I don't know where you're getting these numbers from, but I doubt that the number of Alsatian speakers has proportionally grown much since 1999 (actually, the same article said Alsatian was on the lowering), anyhow, this is all the sites where Germanic speakers are over 50%. Also, keep in mind that 550k is the total speaker amount - native speakers are even less.

If you just want to listen to Juq, that's all right, but then your map will remain wrong and irrelevant particularly with the title you chose.

Actually, he specifically told me he wanted his map to be "wrong and irrelevant", so your job is done'ere.

I already told you official statistics related with ethnicity/religion/languages/origin cannot be made in France, only polls selecting a restricted group of people (let's say 10.000) but they are rather irrelevant, it is why you can't have the exact figure in France, and it is why you have different figures depending on the survey made: 600,000; 900,000 or 1,5M. But anyway all the studies made about Alsatian concluded it was the most vivid regional language and the most spoken by far in France.

Hence the figures about regional languages are only estimations not actual and real statistics.

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Whatever its name is, only 5,2% speak Swedish, it should not be in this map if Alsace which has a huge majority or minority (depending on the survey and poll) isn't there either.

You should look back at the resources and things I said earlier, they would answer your frains.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/92/Languages_of_Finnish_municipalities_%282009%29.svg

I already told you official statistics related with ethnicity/religion/languages/origin cannot be made in France, only polls selecting a restricted group of people (let's say 10.000)

How do you think surveys are done?

you have different figures depending on the survey made: 600,000; 900,000 or 1,5M.

I still have yet to see 1.5 million?

Alsatian concluded it was the most vivid regional language and the most spoken by far in France.

Yes, but that doesn't matter.

Edited 5/11/2016 21:51:54