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Clan League 8: Pronostic championships: 6/1/2016 16:46:09


Master USA
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Initial predictions (will do simulator)
A
1. Masters
2. Apex
3. GG
4. French
5. Turtles
6. Lynx
7. WG

After simulator
1. Master- 155
2. Apex- 143
3. Turtles- 129
4. GG- 123
5. Lynx- 119
6. French- 117
7. WG- 61

Way different then I expected and obviously biased towards turtles though I would not put it past us I believe in my clan mates, will probably do another tonight and go more in depth this was just quickly scanning through the line ups. I also know WG will not perform this badly just how it came out when I was scanning through :p I know french is better than this but I have only played with 3 or 4 of them so I will have to look at last CL to see how to judge their talent later.

Edited 6/1/2016 18:43:23
Clan League 8: Pronostic championships: 6/1/2016 17:10:21


Ox
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i feel like the 1 person rooting for WG other than Chris, haha. would love to see them stay in. Using the sheet now.

1. Masters - 163
2. Apex - 151
3. WG - 120
4. French - 112
5. Turtles - 103
6. Lynx - 97
7. GG - 92

GG dropped huge, Lynx still relegated, Apex and WG climbed, French and Masters stay the same, Turtles raise.

I'm not changing my prediction, this is just me playing with the sheet
Clan League 8: Pronostic championships: 6/1/2016 17:52:11


Nex
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Anyone else wondering if WG will lower its join requirements if it loses its A-list status?
Clan League 8: Pronostic championships: 6/1/2016 18:19:55


ChrisCMU 
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Guys, don't ask me for access to the sheet, you don't need it. Just copy it to your own google drive and edit as you please.

And no, we are not changing our join requirements either way.

Really, this season will be hard to predict. The templates have changed more this season than at any other time. Plus I think A is as deep as it has ever been (there have always been 1-2 clans that falter hard). I could easily see every clan over 100 pts, and last season Ahol barely broke 40).
Clan League 8: Pronostic championships: 6/1/2016 18:34:36

#Master [QB] 
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1. Masters
2. Apex
3. French
4. Turtles
5. GG
6. WG
7. Lynx
Clan League 8: Pronostic championships: 6/1/2016 20:09:57


knyte
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@FK: Why would WG lower their join requirements if they need more quality to get back to A, not less?
Clan League 8: Pronostic championships: 6/1/2016 20:41:47


Master Turtle 
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I didn't think I was as biased as I am until I used Chris's sheet.... Masters, Icelandic Turtles, French, and Apex all had 132+ points. Lynx avoided relegation with 97, GG in 6th with 78, and WG falling where I expected with 73...

So yea Master and Icelandic Turtle clan biases :P But the other results kinda suprised me...
Clan League 8: Pronostic championships: 6/1/2016 23:03:18


Benjamin628 
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Is Quicksand competing or CORP? I'm not interested in finishing this already fantastic clan league until November.
Clan League 8: Pronostic championships: 6/1/2016 23:29:28


knyte
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Yep, Quicksand is competing for CORP.
Clan League 8: Pronostic championships: 6/1/2016 23:36:00


TeamGuns
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@hedja

Hard to fight your arguments, specially the leicester one :D

But still, B with any clan other than 101st, Blitz and ONE! making the top 3 is really an upset, at least in my mind. Same for WG not getting relegated...
Clan League 8: Pronostic championships: 6/2/2016 04:47:38


Nex
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Why would WG lower their join requirements if they need more quality to get back to A, not less?


As it currently stands, WG's stated requirements damages their own growth. This is easily demonstrable by the fact that competitive players, by the time they reach one of the following requirements:

A) top 20 seasonal ladder final rank/ B) top 25 1v1 ladder/ C) top 10 2v2 ladder;

will be in one of the following predicaments:

1. They'll already be in a clan;

2. They'll already have decided they don't want to be in clans, or

3. They're alts.


In many cases, great players are built, not found. If WG is relegated, I believe this is a case study that proves its model of poaching great players from other clans/clanlessness is no longer as sound as it used to be, and that it should consider actively investing in the growth of players with high potential instead of taking in the players who have already become highly competitive. If they are not relegated to B, the model is still good enough to keep them in A-list status. We shall see.

Edited 6/2/2016 04:55:21
Clan League 8: Pronostic championships: 6/2/2016 07:25:04


Super Smoove 
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Here's an edited version of the scoresheet for group C:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13oARbSBQgtZFIVf66YWWeRMecl61dhdbrpKVdd-YaWk/edit#gid=1527788231

Also, the matchup maker for A is messed up for the 7th team. I fixed it on my sheet but just as a warning to people using the sheet.

Edited 6/2/2016 07:36:36
Clan League 8: Pronostic championships: 6/2/2016 07:38:37


ZeroBlindDragon 
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Smoove, it looks like your document was made private. I can't access to it unless I click on the "Request access" button... which is going to send you an e-mail. XP

I don't think you want to be flooded by e-mails.

Edited 6/2/2016 07:39:09
Clan League 8: Pronostic championships: 6/2/2016 08:07:58


Super Smoove 
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Ya i just fixed it
Clan League 8: Pronostic championships: 6/2/2016 08:44:29


Angry Koala
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Nicely done Super Smoove, at least I have now a clear idea of who my opponents will be :)
Clan League 8: Pronostic championships: 6/2/2016 15:04:38


Onoma94
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Thanks Smoove! :D
(and ChrisCMU too :)

Edited 6/2/2016 15:04:51
Clan League 8: Pronostic championships: 6/2/2016 17:00:41


Ox
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(may contain lots of bias)

Used that sheet and got,

VS: 156
CORP: 150
MH: 127
Hydra: 104
BIA: 59
LEA: 4

keku desu
Clan League 8: Pronostic championships: 6/2/2016 17:10:27


Onoma94
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M'Hunters: 144
CORP: 138
Hydra: 125
VS: 122
BIA: 71
LEA: 0

is what I got lol
Clan League 8: Pronostic championships: 6/2/2016 17:21:12


knyte
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^ You probably underrated the hell out of VS because of unfamiliarity.
Clan League 8: Pronostic championships: 6/2/2016 18:29:40


Norman 
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^ You probably underrated the hell out of VS because of unfamiliarity.

I'm pretty sure VS gets overrated due to unfamiliarity. I'm quite familiar with them:
https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=9571652

@Semicedevine: Last time I checked I heard some "hopefully we don't get relegated talk" from the Lost Woves and now suddenly it's about geting first place. I like your predictions however, the first ones that make sense.

Edited 6/2/2016 18:45:14
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